Lil Red Posted June 7, 2006 Posted June 7, 2006 (edited) luthien, nice rant...i must add a little something from a book i'm reading ([u]Letters to a Young Catholic[/u] by George Weigel): [quote]John Paul has proposed that sexual love within the bond of faithful and fruitful marriage is nothing less than an icon of the interior life of God himself. .... Which is another way of saying that sex, rightly understood, helps teach us about God, even as it teaches us about ourselves. ... So the Adam and Eve stories in Genesis teach a fundamental moral and spiritual lesson about our lives and our loves: human happiness depends on self-giving, not self-assertion. Remember that "original sin" is a corruption of something good: self-giving gets corrupted when it becomes self-assertion. That's what lust does. Lust and desire are two different things. If I'm truly attracted to someone, I want to make a gift of myself to that person for [i]his[/i] good or [i]her[/i] good, not just [i]my[/i] good. Lust is the opposite of that self-giving; lust is the itch for transitory pleasure through the [i]use[/i] of someone else, even the abuse of someone else. ... The Catholic sexual ethic, John Paul proposes, redeems sexual love from the quicksand of lust. The usual charge is that Catholicism is nervous, even paranoid, about the erotic. [b]The truth of the matter is that [i]the Catholic sexual ethic liberates the erotic by transforming longing into self-giving[/i], which leads to the kind of relationships that affirm the human dignity of both partners.[/b] Does Catholicism blunt desire? On the contrary, [i]the Catholic sexual ethic channels our desires "from the heart," so that desire leads to a true communion of persons, a true giving-and-receiving[/i]. Catholicism isn't about "self-control," which is a psychological category. [b]The Catholic sexual ethic is a matter of growing into [i]self-mastery[/i], which is a spiritual and moral category: the mastery of desire that lets us give ourselves to others intimately in a way that affirms the "other" in his or her giving and receiving[/b]. The beauty of the body, mirroring the beauty of God, awakens in us that latent thirst for ecstasy which is our thirst for communion with others and with God. ... And don't think you can satisfy that thirst by treating sex as another contact sport, which is what the sexual revolution has come down to. ... [b]You've been made for love, for a love freely offered and received, a love that includes permanent commitment.[/b] True sexual love is a matter of putting my emotional center in the care of another. ... The Catholic context for thinking about sex is freedom, not prohibition. Loving, not using - that's the deeply humane challenge the Catholic Church poses to the sexual revolution.[/quote] Edited June 7, 2006 by Lil Red
heavenseeker Posted June 8, 2006 Posted June 8, 2006 i read a book about how to live chastly. it was really good.
CrossCuT Posted June 8, 2006 Posted June 8, 2006 [size=1][color="330000"]Thats cool Jason Evret came to my school once. [/color][/size]
heavenseeker Posted June 8, 2006 Posted June 8, 2006 the name sounds familular i think i heard him speak too
CrossCuT Posted June 8, 2006 Posted June 8, 2006 [size=1][color="330000"]He is really cool. I liked him alot! [/color][/size]
CrossCuT Posted June 8, 2006 Posted June 8, 2006 [size=1][color="330000"]Yea, but he was straight forward and told us how it is. He made sense and knew how to reach youth in a way that does not make you sleep. [/color][/size]
heavenseeker Posted June 8, 2006 Posted June 8, 2006 i should check the book i got t osee if it is him or not
CrossCuT Posted June 8, 2006 Posted June 8, 2006 [size=1][color="330000"]yea maybe it is the same person! I know his wife wrote some books about purity too! So i think they kinda work together and such [/color][/size]
CrossCuT Posted June 8, 2006 Posted June 8, 2006 [size=1][color="330000"]Ok! And after the talk, they gave out a ton of free stuff. Like panflets and little books and this cool rubber bracelet! Like the "Live Strong" ones, but this one was white and said "Live Pure" It was cool. [/color][/size]
CrossCuT Posted June 8, 2006 Posted June 8, 2006 [size=1][color="330000"]Ummm, I cant remember. lol Sorry...I really like the talk though! [/color][/size]
CrossCuT Posted June 8, 2006 Posted June 8, 2006 [size=1][color="330000"]That would help! [/color][/size]
Proud2BCatholic139 Posted June 8, 2006 Posted June 8, 2006 Dude, he is one of my heroes. When he came to NET, that was the best NET I have ever attended and that was 4 years ago.
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