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KnightofChrist
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[size=4]How to Destroy America
Article by Frosty Wooldridge
October 31, 2003

Published in MichNews.com.

In Washington, DC, several weeks ago, an immigration-overpopulation conference was filled to capacity by many of America’s finest minds and leaders. Writers, speakers, CEO's, representatives from Congress such as Tom Tancredo as well as former governors graced the podium. Bonnie Eggle, mother of the national parks ranger Kris Eggle, slain by Mexican drug runners last year on our unguarded southern border--gave a compelling speech that left not one dry eye in the place. Peter Gadiel, father of Jamie Gadiel, spoke powerfully on how the World Trade Center took his son and how nothing has been done since--to stop the flow of illegal immigration into the United States. Even with the facade of Tom Ridge's Homeland Security, 800,000 illegal aliens continue walking, crawling or tunneling across the Mexican border annually. Their accelerating numbers undermine America's ability to function.

During the conference, speaker after speaker astounded the audience with facts on how fast the present administration and congress continue dismantling the American Dream for average citizens. Mr. Rob Sanchez of Arizona, showed how H-1b and L-1 visas have ripped one million high tech jobs out of American worker's hands. Another speaker told a packed audience how 'offshoring' and 'outsourcing', fully supported by the president and congress have cost over three million American jobs in the past six years. His prediction was even more depressing: "In excess of three million more jobs will be 'outsourced' within four years. Those American jobs are headed to Mexico, India, China, Pakistan and Brazil."

Later, a brilliant college professor, Victor Davis Hansen, talked about his latest book, 'MEXIFORNIA', explaining how immigration, both legal and illegal, was destroying the entire State of California. He said it would march across the country until it destroyed all vestiges of the American Dream.

Moments later, former Colorado Governor Richard D. Lamm, stood up and gave a stunning speech on how to destroy America. The audience sat spellbound by the eight methods for destruction of the United States.

Lamm said, "If you believe that America is too smug, to self-satisfied, too rich, then let's destroy America. It is not that hard to do. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and fall, and that, "An autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide."

"Here is how they destroyed their countries," Lamm said. "First, turn America into a bilingual or multi lingual and bicultural country. History shows that no nation can survive the tension, conflict and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual. The historical scholar Seymour Lipset put it this way, "The histories of bilingual and bicultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension and tragedy. Canada, Belgium, Malaysia, Lebanon-all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with Basques, Bretons and Corsicans."

Lamm continued on how to destroy America, "Invent 'multiculturalism' and encourage immigrants to maintain their own culture. I would make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal. That there are no cultural differences. I would make it an article of faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout rates are due to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out of bounds."

"We could make the United States an 'Hispanic Quebec' without much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin Schwarz said in the ATLANTIC MONTHLY recently: " The apparent success of our own multi-ethnic and multi-cultural experiment might have been achieved not by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated ethnocentrically and what it meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together."

Lamm added, "I would encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would replace the melting pot metaphor with the salad bowl metaphor. It is important to ensure that we have various cultural sub-groups living in America reinforcing their differences rather than as Americans, emphasizing their similarities."

"Fourth, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass have a 50% dropout rate from high school."

"My fifth point for destroying America would be to get big foundations and business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of 'Victimology'. I would get all minorities to think their lack of success was the fault of the majority. I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on the majority population."

"My sixth plan for America's downfall would include dual citizenship and promote divided loyalties. I would celebrate diversity over unity. I would stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other-that is, when they are not killing each other. A diverse, peaceful or stable society is against most historical precedent. People undervalue the unity it takes to keep a nation together. Look at the ancient Greeks: "The Greeks believed that they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common language and literature; and they worshipped the same gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic games. A common enemy Persia threatened their liberty. Yet, all these bonds were not strong enough to overcome two factors…local patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political divisions. Greece fell. In that historical reality, if we put the emphasis on the 'pluribus' instead of the 'unum, we can balkanize America as surely as Kosovo."

"Next to last, I would place all subjects off limits-make it taboo to talk about anything against the cult of 'diversity'. I would find a word similar to 'heretic' in the 16th century-that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like 'racist' or 'xenophobe' halt discussion and debate."

"Having made America a bilingual--bicultural country, having established multiculturalism, having the large foundations fund the doctrine of 'Victimology', I would next make it impossible to enforce our immigration laws. I would develop a mantra: "That because immigration has been good for America, it must ALWAYS be good. I would make every individual immigrant sympatric and ignore the cumulative impact of millions of them."

In the last minute of his speech, Governor Lamm wiped his brow. A profound silence swept over the room. Finally, he said, "Lastly, I would censor Victor Davis Hansen's book 'MEXIFORNIA'. His book is dangerous. It exposes the plan to destroy America. If you feel America deserves to be destroyed, don't read that book."

There was no applause. A chilling fear quietly rose like an ominous cloud above every attendee at the conference. Every American in that room knew that everything Lamm enumerated was proceeding methodically, quietly, darkly, yet pervasively across the United States today. Every discussion is being suppressed. Over 100 languages are ripping the foundation of our educational system and national cohesiveness. Barbaric cultures that practice female genital mutilation are growing as we celebrate 'diversity'. American jobs are vanishing into the Third World as greedy corporations create a Third World in America-take note of California and other states-to date, 10 million illegal aliens and growing, fast.

It reminded me of George Orwell's book, '1984'. In that story, three slogans are engraved in the Ministry of Truth building: "War is peace," "Freedom is slavery," and "Ignorance is strength." I sat there as one of this country's most patriotic Americans, Governor Lamm, walked back to his seat. It dawned on everyone at the conference that our nation and the future of this great democracy, are deeply in trouble and worsening fast. An invasion of diseases, clashing cultures, languages, balkinization, mounting environmental dilemmas accelerate by the day. If this immigration monster isn't stopped within three years, it will rage across the United States like a California wildfire and destroy everything in its path, especially the American Dream.
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Lounge Daddy
Posted (edited)

hey, a very great article
and very very true... this "diversity" as it is being touted in schools and elsewhere is very dangerous

we are a nation of immigrants, true
but a national unity as U.S. Americans was promoted and accepted, never "diversity"
cultural tradition was celebrated and preserved by [u]families[/u], not schools and businesses.

ah, but there is the [b]9th step[/b], the other piece of the puzzle:
[b]eliminate the family[/b]

Edited by Lounge Daddy
Posted

step one is to pretend that satan doesn't exist. step two is to pretend that there is no absolute. Everything else flows from these two.

Posted (edited)

Multiculturalism sure has run America under the ground. Time to round up all those darn Chinatown dwellers and all those Italians who parade through our streets shouting crazy Italian words to crazy Italian statues.

Xenophobia...my anti-drug.

Or is it the tenth step? :disguise: :rolleyes:

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KnightofChrist
Posted (edited)

[quote name='Era Might' post='1001778' date='Jun 9 2006, 09:15 PM']
Multiculturalism sure has run America under the ground. Time to round up all those darn Chinatown dwellers and all those Italians who parade through our streets shouting crazy Italian words to crazy Italian statues.

Xenophobia...my anti-drug.

Or is it the tenth step? :disguise:
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At least the vast majortiy of Chinamen and Italians took the legal route assimilated to american cultural... unlike the 10 million of illegal mexican nationials who do not assimilate, and which will continue to come in droves

Edited by KnightofChrist
Posted (edited)

I don't see how constructing Chinatowns and eating spaghetti every Sunday is "assimilation".

Spain and France helped colonize the United States. Why is their legacy invalid?

Edited by Era Might
Posted

[quote name='Lounge Daddy' post='1001113' date='Jun 9 2006, 08:06 AM']
ah, but there is the [b]9th step[/b], the other piece of the puzzle:
[b]eliminate the family[/b]
[/quote]

I don't know if anyone is aware of this, but in 1984 former Gov. Lamm gave a speech in which he made a comment about the elderly having a "duty to die":

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Posted (edited)

The extent of of the Spanish heritage in the United States, from Wikipedia:

[quote]New Spain: Mexico, Texas, California, and New Mexico. The 1819 Adams-Onís Treaty replaced nebulous boundaries with a demarcated border at Spain's expense.

Spanish Florida: Modern-day Florida including parts of modern-day Alabama and Mississippi.

Louisiana, consisting of the present-day U.S. states of Louisiana, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Missouri, Kansas, Iowa, Nebraska, Minnesota, North Dakota, South Dakota, Wyoming, Montana, Colorado,

Idaho: Spain owned this territory from 1762–1800 and based its administration in New Orleans. The north and interior was only sparsely settled by French inhabitants and new immigrants. Nomadic Indians, newly horsed, made up most of the new residents on the Great Plains where Spanish control was confined to the south. A system of forts and frontier posts, inherited from the French, protected Spanish interests along the Mississippi as far north as Michigan. [/quote]

Why is it nobody decries diversity when all the Irishmen get together for St. Patty's Day, or all the Germans get together for Oktoberfest, but when all the Mexicans get together for Dia De Los Muertos, they're destroying America?

That's not entirely true, either. Americans have always been xenophobic. "Irish need not apply" is a famous phrase in our nation. Unfortunately, we seem to be heading down that same road with Hispanic peoples today.

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KnightofChrist
Posted

[quote name='Era Might' post='1001805' date='Jun 9 2006, 09:38 PM']
The extent of of the Spanish heritage in the United States, from Wikipedia:
Why is it nobody decries diversity when all the Irishmen get together for St. Patty's Day, or all the Germans get together for Oktoberfest, but when all the Mexicans get together for Dia De Los Muertos, they're destroying America?

That's not entirely true, either. Americans have always been xenophobic. "Irish need not apply" is a famous phrase in our nation. Unfortunately, we seem to be heading down that same road with Hispanic peoples today.
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First off no one in their right mind "decries" Spanish heritage in the United States. Mexican Nationals are destorying this nation not by "Dia De Los Muertos" but by stealing into it by the MILLIONS without regard to US Law or her People!

Point is the [color="#CC0000"]vast majorty[/color] of Irishmen, German, Chinamen and other peoples came and still come here to become Americans and do so [color="#CC0000"]legally[/color]. The Mexican Nationals DO NOT come here legally. They steal into this nation by the Millions apon Millions, it can not contiue on like this, it will rip america apart. A balloon will hold so much before it explodes! Same goes for a nation and her people.

And whom has the Mexican National Loyality? The United States or Mexico? Being that they are still MEXICAN NATIONALS therefor not americans and the vast majorty of the Mexico Nationals willfully BREAK THE LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES by stealing into the nation one could strongfully agrue their loyality is to Mexico not The United States.

Posted

The thrust of this article is not about illegal immigration, it is about immigrants who "maintain their own culture."

Maintaining your culture is maintaining your culture, whether you are here legally or not. And multiculturalism is a staple of the American social landscape. Always has been, and always will be. Why didn't George Washington and company adopt the language of the Indians? Because they were keeping their culture.

KnightofChrist
Posted

But the thrust about the "maintain their own culture" bit goes further than just being pround of ones heritage. It is that they wont NO part of ours, they wish to stay in their own small group.

And what this will cause is instead of ONE UNTIED Country, many un-unitied DIVIDED little counrties!!!!! There-for breaking and divided america and americans up and destorying our UNITY and nation!

Multicultralism is good but taken to far it will destory a nation because it destorys unity, and thats where we're headed.

If what you say is true then Multicultralism destoryed the Native American Nation, which by the way because of "multicultralism" was already DIVIDED into many many small nations, which is probably why they lost their nations to the likes of George Washington, they where not united!

Posted

And the dominant culture assimilated St. Patrick's Day . . . it isn't "just" an Irish celebration . . . (or, if we look hard enough, we're all Irish) . . . not to the extent of other national (governmentally recognized) holidays, like the 4th of July

First generation immigrants (regardless of nation of origin) lived in their ethnic community; their children learned English and (usually by the second or third generation) went to college and moved into the mainstream

with a few notable exceptions - e.g. the Amish in Pennsylvania resisted "mainstreaming"

Contrary to the historical model is the widespread disdain of the lawful entry process . . . if you start with contempt of the rules, where's the incentive to join the community . . . a single issue microcosm of a pervasive social problem in the world . . . "it's all about 'me'"

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Lounge Daddy
Posted

[quote name='Era Might' post='1001784' date='Jun 9 2006, 11:33 PM']
I don't see how constructing Chinatowns and eating spaghetti every Sunday is "assimilation".

Spain and France helped colonize the United States. Why is their legacy invalid?
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The Spaniards, French, and Polonia didn't enter illegally and then march the streets demanding legality under the guise of "multiculturalism."
They –first- entered legally, and –second- recognized they were in the USA and recognized the importance and value of unity …

Remember that the USA was once called “the melting pot.” We seem to be becoming more of a salad bowl these days.

Posted

The Spaniards and French traded natives for trinkets and stole land. I wouldn't call it legal per say. They annihilated a culture.

It is good that we are a salad bowl. People are different, for many reasons, and respect for those differences can allow us to function as a country. We have religious diversity, and you shouldn't be complaining about that because we'd be a protestant country if the fore fathers hadn't made that part of the amendments.

Posted

[quote name='Era Might' post='1002601' date='Jun 10 2006, 02:25 PM']
The thrust of this article is not about illegal immigration, it is about immigrants who "maintain their own culture."

Maintaining your culture is maintaining your culture, whether you are here legally or not. And multiculturalism is a staple of the American social landscape. Always has been, and always will be. Why didn't George Washington and company adopt the language of the Indians? Because they were keeping their culture.
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There's a difference between maintaining one's culture and refusing to assimilate into the country one migrates to.
The problem is that many (not all) of these Mexican immigrants is that they are Mexican nationalists who are anti-American, and have no desire to become American. They want to take back America for Mexico. That is the cause of concern This was not the case with most of the Germans, Irish, Italians, etc., who came here intending to be Americans (xenophobia and prejudice notwithstanding).

Multiculturalism was not traditionally what America was about. It is the invention of late-twentieth century liberalism. And, politically-incorrect as this fact may be, the nation of the United States of America was founded by Washington and co., not the Indians, and was built on English culture, law, and government. "Multi-culturalism" was rejected from the beginning, when it was decided that government documents would only be published in English, not English and German.

[quote name='track2004' post='1009102' date='Jun 20 2006, 10:19 AM']
The Spaniards and French traded natives for trinkets and stole land. I wouldn't call it legal per say. They annihilated a culture.

It is good that we are a salad bowl. People are different, for many reasons, and respect for those differences can allow us to function as a country. We have religious diversity, and you shouldn't be complaining about that because we'd be a protestant country if the fore fathers hadn't made that part of the amendments.
[/quote]
More politically incorrect facts: The Spaniards and French brought the Catholic Faith to the pagan people of the New World. The cultures they conquered practiced such things as large-scale human sacrifice, brutal torture, slavery, and ritual warfare. (You might want to read up on the 17th century French Jesuit martyrs in the New World). The idea that the Americas were an innocent paradise before the coming of the white man is a politically-correct myth; history shows otherwise.

heavenseeker
Posted

heck you can destroy America in one easy step. now im not going to say it because ya never know who all reads these things, but with todays technology it could be done.

KnightofChrist
Posted

[quote name='track2004' post='1009102' date='Jun 20 2006, 10:19 AM']
The Spaniards and French traded natives for trinkets and stole land. I wouldn't call it legal per say. They annihilated a culture.

It is good that we are a salad bowl. People are different, for many reasons, and respect for those differences can allow us to function as a country. We have religious diversity, and you shouldn't be complaining about that because we'd be a protestant country if the fore fathers hadn't made that part of the amendments.
[/quote]


One of the major reasons the native cultures were annihilated is because they were a multiculture salad bowl "nation" which was not united. Had they been it would have been different, they would have even won perhaps... somehow.

It will be very bad if we become a "salad bowl", far far from a good thing. A "Salad bowl" nation just as a salad in a bowl is not united, if you tip it over all the parts fall apart very very easy. Meaning nothing holds the parts together in this case the people, to say it is good we have a salad bowl nation is saying its good not to be united, and that for The United States would be very bad, it would be more of an Confederacy, and we all know that's never really worked.

Posted
:ohno: My father's grandparents came from Bavaria and Riga,Latvia. Both sets were german.they came here legally before Ellis Island.My great grandparents were educated and came from well to do families.They could speak several languages besides their native german.Great grandpa Hilpert and great grandpa Steldt started their own businesses.Grandpa Steldt ran and owned a construction company in Milwaukee.My cousins still are involved in home building,etc.
Grandpa Hilpert owned several stores in Hot Springs,Arkansas where they moved to in 1911 because he was in ill health.

And yes,in Milwaukee the neighborhood my dad lived in was primarily German,with Poles and Czechs. But immigrants like the irish ,italians,german etc. formed this little areas because they could help each other out.Help each other with housing, jobs,etc. There are in Texas benevolent societies formed by the Czechs to help each other with burials, family relief,etc. And i'm sure anyone now adays might be able to join up.

These people knew they had to learn english to get ahead.They didn't expect you to know their language automatically like these illegals do.Actually around here in San Antonio it's the rich shoppers from mexico who think everyone speaks spanish or should.

During the Depression my dad,his brother Uncle Tom and their parents moved back to Milwaukee
cause grandma thought things might be better there than in Hot Springs.They moved their in the 1920s to run great grandpa's stores when he became very ill.
Grandpa got a job working in the meat counter of Goldman's Department Store,which was in the polish district. During grandpa's interview with Mr.Goldman,he said,Well Mr.Hilpert,pretty soon you'll be speaking Polish as well as I do. And within three months Daddy said grandpa was not only speaking it but writing out signs for specials,etc.Grandpa had a gift for languages and was fluent
in Italian,Spanish,Polish,German and he could also speak Russian and Yiddish.He also knew some Gaelic which he learned from some Irish friends.
How many of these illegals are willing to learn another language beside their own?
When WW2 came my dad had a deferment because he was working at Briggs and Stratton's in MIlwaukee.He said he was going in anyway to which grandpa said,Well,if you feel you got to go,then go,and went back to reading the paper.
My dad could have gone and joined the German military.he spoke the language and had relatives who were officers in the army there.
But instead he fought like other brave German and Italian Americans for OUR SIDE,for freedom for the people of Europe and Asia.There were Chinese and Japanese men who also enlisted and fought for America. And so did blacks and native americans too.
There have been even now some soldiers who are illegals who have fought in Iraq and died.
Not all of these people are bad,but i just wish they would do it legally and finally sink into their heads that Mexico could care less about them.
Vicente Fox uses the US as a dumping grounds so they don't have to support or do anything for his people.And even now companies are even moving more and more jobs to Asia .Something should be done about the obscene amounts of monies these company CEOS make yet all the while depriving Americans of jobs.
Posted (edited)

[quote name='Socrates' post='1009347' date='Jun 20 2006, 07:13 PM']
More politically incorrect facts: The Spaniards and French brought the Catholic Faith to the pagan people of the New World. The cultures they conquered practiced such things as large-scale human sacrifice, brutal torture, slavery, and ritual warfare. (You might want to read up on the 17th century French Jesuit martyrs in the New World). The idea that the Americas were an innocent paradise before the coming of the white man is a politically-correct myth; history shows otherwise.
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I chose Isaac (A Jesuit Martyr) as my confirmation name. I know about them and what they did. I'm not saying they were bad guys, but the countries as a whole had an agenda and it did not include natives. Most of the things you mention that were wrong with Native American culture were just as prevalent in Europe. Not so much with human sacrifice, but they sure did exectue a lot of people for petty theft. No culture is perfect, so let's not claim that the French and Spanish had the Native's best interests at heart. I'm sure Joges did, but even he brought a good case of Smallpox with him.

[quote name='KnightofChrist' post='1009530' date='Jun 20 2006, 10:32 PM']
One of the major reasons the native cultures were annihilated is because they were a multiculture salad bowl "nation" which was not united. Had they been it would have been different, they would have even won perhaps... somehow.

It will be very bad if we become a "salad bowl", far far from a good thing. A "Salad bowl" nation just as a salad in a bowl is not united, if you tip it over all the parts fall apart very very easy. Meaning nothing holds the parts together in this case the people, to say it is good we have a salad bowl nation is saying its good not to be united, and that for The United States would be very bad, it would be more of an Confederacy, and we all know that's never really worked.
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That's like saying that Europe smells of elderberries because it is a bunch of nationalities. The natives lost because they were small tribes, not because they were multicultural. Only a few groups of tribes banded together to try and fight, but that was only in the NE. They lost because they were small groups of people who didn't really understand what was going on.

Salads might not be "united", but they are delicious and if you douse them with enough dressing you'll never see that carrot coming because it is just like everything else, all Ranch-y.... yummm...

[edit] One of my friends just mentioned that Switzerland has 4 national language and they are getting by okay. They beat Korea 2-0 today in the World Cup, won their group, and got into the round of 16 which is tons better than us.

Edited by track2004
MissScripture
Posted

[quote name='track2004' post='1011121' date='Jun 23 2006, 08:01 PM']
[edit] One of my friends just mentioned that Switzerland has 4 national language and they are getting by okay. They beat Korea 2-0 today in the World Cup, won their group, and got into the round of 16 which is tons better than us.
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May I just point out that we have NO national language?

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