heavenseeker Posted June 24, 2006 Posted June 24, 2006 actualy they just passed a bill making it english
KnightofChrist Posted June 25, 2006 Author Posted June 25, 2006 [quote name='track2004' post='1011121' date='Jun 23 2006, 07:01 PM'] That's like saying that Europe smells of elderberries because it is a bunch of nationalities. The natives lost because they were small tribes, not because they were multicultural. Only a few groups of tribes banded together to try and fight, but that was only in the NE. They lost because they were small groups of people who didn't really understand what was going on. Salads might not be "united", but they are delicious and if you douse them with enough dressing you'll never see that carrot coming because it is just like everything else, all Ranch-y.... yummm... [edit] One of my friends just mentioned that Switzerland has 4 national language and they are getting by okay. They beat Korea 2-0 today in the World Cup, won their group, and got into the round of 16 which is tons better than us. [/quote] Europe is not one united nation, the EU is a losely confedertion of nations. The natives were small un-united tribes with many different culturals, hence they were multicultural. And it was their multicultural system that prevented them from uniting under one cultural, thust one nation. Their divison, which was a salad bowl nation made it easier for europeans to defeat them. It is easy to defeat an enemy when its people are not united. What helped their confusion in the take over of their land was again multiculturalism, it was their different believes and culturals that kept them from speaking and thinking as one. A house divided will not stand, natives were divided so they fell. Protestantism is a multicultural rebellion against itself and the One True Chruch. It is now and always has been in chaos, multiculturalism contiues to destroy it, break away church after break away church, instead of one united church, many un-united churches. The same can happen to our nation, mulitculturalism taken to far divideds the people and destorys what unites them.
Socrates Posted June 26, 2006 Posted June 26, 2006 [quote name='track2004' post='1011121' date='Jun 23 2006, 07:01 PM'] I chose Isaac (A Jesuit Martyr) as my confirmation name. I know about them and what they did. I'm not saying they were bad guys, but the countries as a whole had an agenda and it did not include natives. Most of the things you mention that were wrong with Native American culture were just as prevalent in Europe. Not so much with human sacrifice, but they sure did exectue a lot of people for petty theft. No culture is perfect, so let's not claim that the French and Spanish had the Native's best interests at heart. I'm sure Joges did, but even he brought a good case of Smallpox with him. [/quote] Actually many of the colonists (particularly the Catholics from France and Spain) were interested in bringing the natives to Christ. Others not so much. There were good and bad individuals , and many had mixed motivations. Queen Isabel of Spain, who financed Columbus' voyages, strongly condemned the treatment of the natives by the colonists there. (Columbus generally had good intentions, but did a poor job at curbing the abuses of his men and maintaining order). Cortez fought the Aztecs, who practiced human sacrifice on a greater scale than any other civilization in history. They subjugated other tribes who were forced into "flower wars" for the sole purpose of providing the Aztecs with human sacrifice for their bloodthirsty gods. For all the abuses of the European colonists, one cannot deny that these people were better off Christian than pagan. If you've really studied St. Isaac Jogues' life, you'd realize that the pagan tribal life of the Indians was extremely brutal. It was overeall much worse than in Europe. Europe certainly had its problems, but at least many abuses were at least tempered and kept in check somewhat by the Church.
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