Desert Walker Posted June 13, 2006 Posted June 13, 2006 [url="http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=20060610&articleId=2623"]http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?con...&articleId=2623[/url]
Guest T-Bone Posted June 13, 2006 Posted June 13, 2006 Instead of trying to overwhelm us with your conspiracy theories, why don't you try to focus on one or two of the threads that you already have going, then move on to the next one?
Desert Walker Posted June 13, 2006 Author Posted June 13, 2006 ... I see nothing wrong with working more than one topic thread. I have two other threads going, one of which "This war on terror thing is getting stranger and stranger" is, in my opinion, defunct. I'm not trying to "overwhelm" anyone. I'm trying to inform. Why do you think I have some dishonest agenda behind these posts? The truth about what happened on 911 is NOT KNOWN. That is FACT. To realize this you have to READ. But you have to read things written by CRITICS of this administration. You won't hear anything bad about reality from those who would rather you believe everything is good.
Guest T-Bone Posted June 13, 2006 Posted June 13, 2006 The only reason why "The War on Terror..." thead is going defunct is because you are unable to back up your alligations. If you could keep focused on your many "theories," maybe your threads wouldn't go defunct. I do read. I resent your implication that I do not. CNN, ABC, NBC, Newsweek, Time-Warner, etc. have all been critics of Bush. They do not even come close to printing the pulp that the sources you use do though. The articles you link us to are poorly written and are even more poorly researched. Stick with reputable sources, and maybe somebody will listen.
ironmonk Posted June 13, 2006 Posted June 13, 2006 Art Bell is rotting your brain. Anyone can have a website, they're easy to build. Find some intelligent ones for a change. There is a ton of evidence... Such as the video of Bin Laden saying that he didn't think the planes would have taken the buildings completely down (and no, it wasn't someone planting bombs in the building). How about the reports on the men involved, all their phone records to Bin Laden and to other known terrorists. Instead of posting foolish theories, why not actually look for the information that counters what you post and get the facts. [quote] It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak aloud and remove all doubt. -Abraham Lincoln Even a fool, if he keeps silent, is considered wise; if he closes his lips, intelligent. - Proverbs 17:28 [/quote]
OLAM Dad Posted June 13, 2006 Posted June 13, 2006 We know who the hijackers were and we can trace their movements to bin laden's camps in Afghanistan. Isn't that proof enough?
ironmonk Posted June 13, 2006 Posted June 13, 2006 [quote name='Desert Walker' post='1004806' date='Jun 13 2006, 03:22 PM'] ... I see nothing wrong with working more than one topic thread. I have two other threads going, one of which "This war on terror thing is getting stranger and stranger" is, in my opinion, defunct. I'm not trying to "overwhelm" anyone. I'm trying to inform. Why do you think I have some dishonest agenda behind these posts? The truth about what happened on 911 is NOT KNOWN. That is FACT. To realize this you have to READ. But you have to read things written by CRITICS of this administration. You won't hear anything bad about reality from those who would rather you believe everything is good. [/quote] ummm... there is the video proof that planes waylaid into the towers... the proof that they (the terrorists) took flight lessons near where I live... the people who lived in the same building as they did... the bragging by the terrorists of what happened. Why are you so naive to whatever is posted on some website that you know nothing about or hardly gets any traffic? Did you see Michael Moore's movie? If so, then you need to get the truth... [url="http://www.michaelmoorehatesamerica.com"]http://www.michaelmoorehatesamerica.com[/url] [url="http://www.slimindustries.com/~bowling/index.htm"]http://www.slimindustries.com/~bowling/index.htm[/url] [url="http://www.lyingliar.com/"]http://www.lyingliar.com/[/url] [url="http://www.slimindustries.com/~bowling/video.htm"]http://www.slimindustries.com/~bowling/video.htm[/url] [url="http://www.slate.com/id/2102723/"]http://www.slate.com/id/2102723/[/url] [url="http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_15-7-2004_pg4_3"]http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?p...15-7-2004_pg4_3[/url] [url="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=21497"]http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article....RTICLE_ID=21497[/url] [url="http://www.overstock.com/cgi-bin/d2.cgi?cid=54554&PAGE=PRODUCT&PROD_ID=997495&fp=F&siteID=w75.NSGnV.Q-jdSDyRqPZPwrTZVKdrN3Hw&cid=60488&fp=F"]http://www.overstock.com/cgi-bin/d2.cgi?ci...&cid=60488&fp=F[/url] [url="http://www.slimindustries.com/~bowling/links.htm"]http://www.slimindustries.com/~bowling/links.htm[/url] Do the research... listen to all sides: pro, con, and unbias. Get the opinions and then think about them. Get the facts, and add them up. We know what happened on 9/11.
Desert Walker Posted June 13, 2006 Author Posted June 13, 2006 (edited) SEVEN of the alleged hijackers are alive and live and work in middle-eastern countries. THAT IS NEWS, not FBI lies. [quote name='ironmonk' post='1004813' date='Jun 13 2006, 01:30 PM'] Art Bell is rotting your brain. Anyone can have a website, they're easy to build. Find some intelligent ones for a change. There is a ton of evidence... Such as the video of Bin Laden saying that he didn't think the planes would have taken the buildings completely down (and no, it wasn't someone planting bombs in the building). How about the reports on the men involved, all their phone records to Bin Laden and to other known terrorists. Instead of posting foolish theories, why not actually look for the information that counters what you post and get the facts. [/quote] I already did. That's when I believed the official story for crying out LOUD. DON'T YOU PEOPLE GET IT?! I'm not a liberal democrat! I VOTED FOR BUSH BOTH TIMES! But he's not who I thought he was! The war in Iraq proves that to me! He's no Christian! [quote name='ironmonk' post='1004813' date='Jun 13 2006, 01:30 PM'] Art Bell is rotting your brain. Anyone can have a website, they're easy to build. Find some intelligent ones for a change.[/quote] You mean find some right-wing ones for a change? I started waking up to that junk a long time ago. Edited June 13, 2006 by Desert Walker
ThyWillBeDone Posted June 13, 2006 Posted June 13, 2006 [quote name='Desert Walker' post='1004837' date='Jun 13 2006, 04:02 PM'] SEVEN of the alleged hijackers are alive and live and work in middle-eastern countries. [/quote] HA HA HA HA HA HA
Mercy me Posted June 13, 2006 Posted June 13, 2006 [quote name='OLAM Dad' post='1004821' date='Jun 13 2006, 03:39 PM'] We know who the hijackers were and we can trace their movements to bin laden's camps in Afghanistan. Isn't that proof enough? [/quote] That and that he claimed responsibility say it all. Or at least that is good enough for me.
Thy Geekdom Come Posted June 14, 2006 Posted June 14, 2006 What about the tape where he claimed responsibility?
Socrates Posted June 14, 2006 Posted June 14, 2006 [quote name='Raphael' post='1005049' date='Jun 13 2006, 06:54 PM'] What about the tape where he claimed responsibility? [/quote] Oh, it's all part of the conspiracy, you know.
Desert Walker Posted June 14, 2006 Author Posted June 14, 2006 [quote name='Socrates' post='1005056' date='Jun 13 2006, 07:04 PM'] Oh, it's all part of the conspiracy, you know. [/quote] The guy on that tape doesn't look anything like Osama Bin Laden. If you had a mind to see the difference you would see it. How anybody can think that imposter is Bin Laden is beyond my comprehension. WAKE UP!
Guest T-Bone Posted June 14, 2006 Posted June 14, 2006 You're joking, right? This whole conspiracy thing you're ranting about is a big joke?
ironmonk Posted June 14, 2006 Posted June 14, 2006 (edited) DW, You do not have any of the facts. Go to those links and read, maybe you don't know how to properly research something and take into account who it is coming from with logic and reason. Bush is a Christian. "Right" is the side that knows there is right and wrong... those who uphold and obey the law... To be Catholic is to be right. The wrong side likes to call themselves 'left', because they can't admit when they are wrong... they are opposite of right... which is wrong. They do not know how to think and they have wacked out theories because they expect people to think and act like they would. This quote says it all about their character.... "He who mistrusts most should be trusted least" - Aesop. They are liars, swingers, baby killers, perverts, enemys of any establishment unless they can have power, etc... They are a mixed match group of fringe groups that only have their own selfish desires in mind, not what is good for the common good. Again I write... You do not have the facts and I do not believe that you did any real research. Although it is your God given right to embrace error, 2 + 2 will never be 3. Edited June 14, 2006 by ironmonk
Desert Walker Posted June 14, 2006 Author Posted June 14, 2006 (edited) [quote name='T-Bone' post='1005459' date='Jun 14 2006, 08:15 AM'] You're joking, right? This whole conspiracy thing you're ranting about is a big joke? [/quote] I'm not joking. Have you ever compared the pictures? Bin Laden is not on that tape. The guy in white hat on the tape is writing with his right hand. Bin Laden is left handed (if we can believe the official CIA description of him). The guy in the tape is wearing a gold ring on his right hand. This is a violation of Sharia. CBS reported that Osama was in a Pakistani Hospital on Sept. 10. The report says that he was under heavy guard by the Pakistani military. Some of this comes from hospital employees. The Pakistanis are supposed to be "allies in the war on terror." The US is not supposed to know Osama's whereabouts. Nor is Pakistan. But that's just reality according to the US government, the major media and the Bush Fan Club. [url="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/01/28/eveningnews/main325887.shtml"]http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/01/28/...ain325887.shtml[/url] And yes I know the report says this: [quote]But it was Pakistan`s President Musharraf who said in public what many suspected, that bin Laden suffers from kidney disease, saying he thinks bin Laden may be near death. His evidence, watching this most recent video, showing a pale and haggard bin Laden, his left hand never moving. Bush administration officials admit they don`t know if bin Laden is sick or even dead.[/quote] Like I'm going to believe what Musharraf's analysis of the video. Man, Osama! That's one mondo kydney disease you've got there! Changed everthing about you! It even made you look all "grandfatherly" in that trademark "Islamic terrorist mastermind" way! It's a different person on that tape. We really need to stop thinking that TV, radio and newspapers are indepentent news sources. Traditionally, and especially in time of war, they are government controlled. Edited June 14, 2006 by Desert Walker
Desert Walker Posted June 14, 2006 Author Posted June 14, 2006 [quote name='ironmonk' post='1005468' date='Jun 14 2006, 08:29 AM'] DW, You do not have any of the facts. Go to those links and read, maybe you don't know how to properly research something and take into account who it is coming from with logic and reason. Bush is a Christian. "Right" is the side that knows there is right and wrong... those who uphold and obey the law... To be Catholic is to be right.[/quote] I don't need Michael Moore when there are sooo so many more people out there doing their own research that I can read. Bush is a member of Skull and Bones. No true Christian would be a part of a pagan secret society. Get real. THAT's a fact. Bush's intepretation fo the Bible comes from esotericism. Believe me, there's a whole literary genre of esoteric interpretations of the scriptures. There are many avowed pagans who read the Bible every day. It's just they think it means something totally different from what we think it means. According to esotericism, ANY religion can be publicly practiced because ALL religions are esoteric in origin, purpose and content. Sorry IM. This stuff is real. Bush can go to Church and be involved in divination at the same time. There's no conflict for these people in that. They believe that all prohibitions which exist in the moral laws of Christianity exist for those who have not achieved "enlightenment." Those who have been "enlightened" no longer need to follow the moral law. It no longer applies to them because they have "graduated" to a higher degree of existence. I'm serious. I'm not making this up. This is the kind of carp that teachers and prophets of groups like Skull and Bones teach. [quote]The wrong side likes to call themselves 'left', because they can't admit when they are wrong... they are opposite of right... which is wrong. They do not know how to think and they have wacked out theories because they expect people to think and act like they would. This quote says it all about their character.... "He who mistrusts most should be trusted least" - Aesop.[/quote] And I believe it was Anselm who said "Hedge your ears about with thorns." I've already had your worldview IM. Now I'm challenging myself to see the good points of both the left and the right because its obvious to me that SOMEONE is manipulating BOTH groups for a dark purpose, dark for the common man whom the Roman Catholic Church has defended for centuries. [quote]They are liars, swingers, baby killers, perverts, enemys of any establishment unless they can have power, etc... They are a mixed match group of fringe groups that only have their own selfish desires in mind, not what is good for the common good.[/quote] You think the so-called "left" has the monolpoly on that activity? I'll say it again: WAKE UP. [quote]Again I write... You do not have the facts and I do not believe that you did any real research. Although it is your God given right to embrace error, 2 + 2 will never be 3. [/quote] I did do some research. Why don't you read some of Noam Chomsky? He's got articles on his web site. He accepts the official story of 911. His viewpoint isn't as drastic as mine. But it is VERY mind opening.
jezic Posted June 14, 2006 Posted June 14, 2006 research can be faulty you know. Just because you research something doesn't mean that it is true.
Desert Walker Posted June 14, 2006 Author Posted June 14, 2006 Yeah, I know. But I wish I knew why the FBI doesn't ask the questions that the 911 truth movement is asking. Maybe there's something there they'd rather leave alone. Rich, powerful people might get angry ya know. And those guys like to hire assassins when they get angry. Oh but ooops. I did it again. There's NEVER a CONSPIRACY to assassinate anybody! All assassinations are done by disturbed individuals who can't cope with life properly... There's never a CONSPIRACY to do anything. Nobody we're supposed to be able to trust (like a president) would EVER do ANYTHING to hurt we the trusting! COME ON !
Desert Walker Posted June 14, 2006 Author Posted June 14, 2006 I rest my completely unfounded case of suspicions and paranoia. I'm done with this thread.
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