qfnol31 Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 We've had some discussions on the speed limit before, but now I'm standing up for my rights. I have the right to go no more than the speed limit, no matter how angry it makes you following me. I have the right to move into the left lane without cutting you off to pass someone at my own pace without having to speed up to pass a slow driver. Those are my rights, so why do you deny them to me? I hope someone catches the irony. Anyone actually disagree with this? : If no one does, we can argue about why Catholics are bound to normally follow the speed limit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God the Father Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 [quote name='qfnol31' post='1020680' date='Jul 9 2006, 07:38 PM'] I hope someone catches the irony. [/quote] I didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Might Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 I generally go a little bit over the speed limit, but only 5 or 10 miles on the highway. If everyone around me is driving crazy, though, I'll go as fast as I have to to stay clear of them. Better safe than sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP2Iloveyou Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 I don`t think we should have a speed limit. How dare the government impose their morality on me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 [quote name='qfnol31' post='1020680' date='Jul 9 2006, 06:38 PM'] We've had some discussions on the speed limit before, but now I'm standing up for my rights. I have the right to go no more than the speed limit, no matter how angry it makes you following me. I have the right to move into the left lane without cutting you off to pass someone at my own pace without having to speed up to pass a slow driver. Those are my rights, so why do you deny them to me? I hope someone catches the irony. Anyone actually disagree with this? : If no one does, we can argue about why Catholics are bound to normally follow the speed limit. [/quote] Just stay out of the passing lane grandma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyranima Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 [quote name='JP2Iloveyou' post='1020745' date='Jul 9 2006, 07:25 PM'] I don`t think we should have a speed limit. How dare the government impose their morality on me! [/quote] Ya how dare them! actually the law is writen so that if everyone is going faster than the speed limit you have to do the same or you can cause an accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indescribable Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 um, i was having a rough time finding my way back to work after a TEC formation today... i was 30 minutes late, almost drove right into the next state, and ... went atleast 30 miles over the speed limit. and i was having a slight panic attack. after i calmed down i gave thanks to God for not letting me hurt myself or others! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 [quote name='qfnol31' post='1020680' date='Jul 9 2006, 05:38 PM'] We've had some discussions on the speed limit before, but now I'm standing up for my rights. I have the right to go no more than the speed limit, no matter how angry it makes you following me. I have the right to move into the left lane without cutting you off to pass someone at my own pace without having to speed up to pass a slow driver. Those are my rights, so why do you deny them to me? I hope someone catches the irony. Anyone actually disagree with this? : If no one does, we can argue about why Catholics are bound to normally follow the speed limit. [/quote] Thing is [color="#FF0000"]you do not have the "right" to drive at all[/color] it is a privilege. Funny isnt? We pay for the car we drive its taxes the gas that goes in that car and the gas taxes, and we pay for the road in taxes, and we pay for the police pay checks in taxes and the Judges. And most importantly we vote for and pay in taxes the Lawmakers which gives us the privilege to drive, who we give the privilege to govern. Tell me what right does a goverment have to give any privileges, when it has no rights at all, but only the privilege from the people to govern? Answer NONE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sojourner Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 [quote name='hot stuff' post='1020804' date='Jul 10 2006, 12:11 AM'] Just stay out of the passing lane grandma [/quote] Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesuspaidtheprice Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 [quote name='qfnol31' post='1020680' date='Jul 9 2006, 07:38 PM'] We've had some discussions on the speed limit before, but now I'm standing up for my rights. I have the right to go no more than the speed limit, no matter how angry it makes you following me. I have the right to move into the left lane without cutting you off to pass someone at my own pace without having to speed up to pass a slow driver. Those are my rights, so why do you deny them to me? I hope someone catches the irony. Anyone actually disagree with this? : If no one does, we can argue about why Catholics are bound to normally follow the speed limit. [/quote] So would the Catholic Church say that committing a civil offense is a sin? If so, it seems that some Catholics take a very lax view of sin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colleen Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Though I admittedly speed at times (not much), I can't come up with a moral argument to go over the speed limit all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Might Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 No, it's not necessarily a sin to commit a civil crime. Speeding, though, is generally a matter of public safety, so wildly flaunting the speed limit could be a sin; not because the government has set a speed limit, but because you are endangering the welfare of other drivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colleen Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 [quote name='hot stuff' post='1020804' date='Jul 9 2006, 11:11 PM'] Just stay out of the passing lane grandma [/quote] What's really sad is when you're going 10 over and you get passed up by a little old lady and a little old man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesuspaidtheprice Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 [quote name='Era Might' post='1021102' date='Jul 10 2006, 11:59 AM'] No, it's not necessarily a sin to commit a civil crime. Speeding, though, is generally a matter of public safety, so wildly flaunting the speed limit could be a sin; not because the government has set a speed limit, but because you are endangering the welfare of other drivers. [/quote] Do the scriptures not tell us to obey government authorities so long as doing so does not lead to sin? Aren't speed limits set because driving at a greater speed could endanger yourself or others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Might Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 [quote name='Jesuspaidtheprice' post='1021122' date='Jul 10 2006, 12:12 PM']Do the scriptures not tell us to obey government authorities so long as doing so does not lead to sin? Aren't speed limits set because driving at a greater speed could endanger yourself or others?[/quote] Going 5 or 10 miles over the speed limit on the highway generally doesn't endanger anyone; in fact, everyone's probably breezing by you. There are, of course, some laws that are grave, and require obedience, at least in substance. There are many administrative laws that you don't necessarily have to follow the letter to the tee, but it is enough to follow the spirit. A ban on gambling, for example. If you have a friendly 5 dollar bet with a friend over a football game, even though all gambling is illegal, it's no big deal and no sin. If you're running a gambling casino in your basement, that's another matter. Letter vs. Spirit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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