good catholics

[MissScripture]

[quote name='Norseman82' post='1038120' date='Aug 5 2006, 09:48 AM']
From what I understand, there have been laws against fornication in many states (I don't have them at hand and they may be rare and not enforced), at least for underage people, so I don't see this as a bad idea.
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I'm pretty sure that in ND there are co-habitation laws, but I doubt they're enforced.

[missionseeker]

[quote name='Budge' post='1038091' date='Aug 5 2006, 08:53 AM']
The marriage of state and church has always been a bad idea. Roman Catholicism has definitely shown that.


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I think the Puritans did a better job of proving it.

[EcceNovaFacioOmni]

[quote name='Budge' post='1038116' date='Aug 5 2006, 10:40 AM']
Force was the name of the game during the Inquisitions.
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The bad actions of a local court have no bearing on actual Church teaching.

[Lahecil]

There are laws against cohabitation in Florida, Michigan, Mississippi, North Carolina, North Dakota, Virginia and West Virginia. Arizona and New Mexico decriminalized cohabitation in 2001. ( [url="http://www.unmarriedamerica.org/News-About-Us/Anti-cohabitation.htm"]http://www.unmarriedamerica.org/News-About...ohabitation.htm[/url] )

Era-

[Budge]

Youre right the Puritans got it wrong.
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No, we don't. The government has no business in private vice. This is not a fascist state. People fall. People sin. The holiest people on this earth fall every day, and it has NEVER been a Catholic answer to criminalize private vice. Not even in the age of Christendom were people arrested for private vice.[/quote]

I agree with most of what youre saying in your thread...but Catholicism DID have people arrested for religious beliefs which mroe then qualifies as a PRIVATE VICE.
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When almighty God caught a woman in adultery, he didn't hand her over to the Romans or the rulers of Israel. He counseled her appropriately: as a pastor. And if the authorities had come to arrest her, he would have denounced them on the spot.[/quote]

Agree with you here.

[pyranima]

[quote name='Budge' post='1038116' date='Aug 5 2006, 08:40 AM']
Force was the name of the game during the Inquisitions.
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yes it was and lets not forget about the Protestant Inquisitions. how many did Calvin kill? and Henery?

the question is who teaches the proper doctrine not anything else. and lets not forget (considering i'm Native American) how many Natives the Protestants killed. i believe we were "unfit to live"

and i do think that $3 for my ear is rather fair price don't you think?