thessalonian Posted August 15, 2006 Posted August 15, 2006 This is an interesting story. This woman almost lost her children and was accused of fraud because her own children did not match her dna. [url="http://www.abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=2315693&page=1"]http://www.abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=2315693&page=1[/url] "In her blood, she was one person, but in other tissues, she had evidence of being a fusion of two individuals," Uhl said. It's a rare condition called chimerism, with only 30 documented cases worldwide. In Greek mythology, "chimera" means a monster: part goat, part lion, part snake. In human biology, a chimera is an organism with at least two genetically distinct types of cells — or, in other words, someone meant to be a twin. But while in the mother's womb, two fertilized eggs fuse, becoming one fetus that carries two distinct genetic codes — two separate strands of DNA.
homeschoolmom Posted August 15, 2006 Posted August 15, 2006 That is freaky. I would guess the majority of times this happens, it ends in miscarriage.
Franimus Posted August 15, 2006 Posted August 15, 2006 sweet... *runs off to get tested* i always knew i had a twin, and that he was speaking to me through the voices in my head! wahaha
Lahecil Posted August 15, 2006 Posted August 15, 2006 There was a guy with chimerism on CSI once... He thought he could escape my dear Grissom, but oooh no...
IcePrincessKRS Posted August 15, 2006 Posted August 15, 2006 Thats totally cool.... creepy in a way, but cool.
missionseeker Posted August 16, 2006 Posted August 16, 2006 [quote name='Franimus' post='1044233' date='Aug 15 2006, 04:43 PM'] sweet... *runs off to get tested* i always knew i had a twin, and that he was speaking to me through the voices in my head! wahaha [/quote]
missionseeker Posted August 16, 2006 Posted August 16, 2006 [quote]Keegan's attorney was determined to solve the mystery. That's when he came across Keegan's chimera story in the New England Journal of Medicine.[/quote] i think someone got confused here.
Colleen Posted August 16, 2006 Posted August 16, 2006 [quote]In human biology, a chimera is an organism with at least two genetically distinct types of cells — or, in other words, someone meant to be a twin. But while in the mother's womb, two fertilized eggs fuse, becoming one fetus that carries two distinct genetic codes — two separate strands of DNA.[/quote] There would still be two unique souls, correct? I'm confused.
franciscanheart Posted August 16, 2006 Posted August 16, 2006 I think this is going to be on Nightline next week...
fearundercontrol Posted August 16, 2006 Posted August 16, 2006 [quote name='Colleen' post='1044313' date='Aug 15 2006, 11:20 PM'] There would still be two unique souls, correct? I'm confused. [/quote] Oh wow. That is a tricky question. Maybe you should write the pope.
franciscanheart Posted August 16, 2006 Posted August 16, 2006 [quote name='homeschoolmom' post='1044319' date='Aug 15 2006, 10:25 PM'] Tomorrow, I believe. [/quote] my bad. (i'm glad you knew that. i want to see it.)
2xbob Posted August 17, 2006 Posted August 17, 2006 Would this give the phrase "Im my own worst enemy" a new meaning? If you were mad at yourself would it be sibling rivalry? Could you get 2x Cakes and presents at birthdays? Would your twin brother/sister truly be the closest person ever to you? Do I have work in the morning which I should be resting for instead of thinking such foolishness... Yes.
Colleen Posted August 17, 2006 Posted August 17, 2006 (edited) [quote name='Colleen' post='1044313' date='Aug 15 2006, 11:20 PM'] There would still be two unique souls, correct? I'm confused. [/quote] Do any of Phatmass' theologians or philosophers have any idea about this? Edited August 17, 2006 by Colleen
CoffeeCatholic Posted August 17, 2006 Posted August 17, 2006 [quote name='Colleen' post='1044313' date='Aug 15 2006, 11:20 PM'] There would still be two unique souls, correct? I'm confused. [/quote] Originally yes, but then one of the two died and the body was simply fused together. So it's weird, but the soul has died, but their body will only die when their twin dies. And when the resurection happens, they should probably get two separate bodies. the bigger question is this: The separation of a single developing embryo into two identical twins doesn't happen until like day 3 or 4 or something, so what then? Was it two people from the begining in one embryo? Or was it one, and when it split, God sorta added a second? or does ensoulment not happen until after that?
thessalonian Posted August 17, 2006 Author Posted August 17, 2006 "So it's weird, but the soul has died" Actually souls don't die. Separate from the body would be the more proper way to say it.
CoffeeCatholic Posted August 18, 2006 Posted August 18, 2006 [quote name='thessalonian' post='1045328' date='Aug 17 2006, 10:22 AM'] "So it's weird, but the soul has died" Actually souls don't die. Separate from the body would be the more proper way to say it. [/quote] correct, i was just trying to think of a way of saying that properly. i think i meant "the person has died, but the body has remained". I'm often confused by this situation, since i saw a thing about it on the Discovery channel one time last year. So I've been doing research. But it's the identical twins that confuse me.
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