ardillacid Posted September 11, 2006 Posted September 11, 2006 [quote name='zwergel88' post='1059670' date='Sep 9 2006, 02:24 PM'] I feel about her very much the same way that I feel about the amorphous brown substance on the bottom of my shoe. [/quote] Aww I bet you say that to all the girls
MIKolbe Posted September 11, 2006 Posted September 11, 2006 just facetiously arrogant enough to counter the other side... ad homenims, non-sequitors, and straw-men, oh-my! and there's enough to go around for both sides....and for seconds...
catholicinsd Posted September 15, 2006 Author Posted September 15, 2006 [img]http://pegpundit.wordpress.com/files/2006/03/coulter_pie_miss.jpg[/img] How could he have missed her? She deserved that.
Ora et Labora Posted September 15, 2006 Posted September 15, 2006 ann coulter is coming to the pro-life banquet here in houston this november to speak. ann coulter is what many political speakers are...they all have bad and good qualities to them.
track2004 Posted September 15, 2006 Posted September 15, 2006 I usually think she's evil incarnate and dresses very unprofessionally (maybe like a lady of questionable morals). I've heard her talk and while some of her points are well founded some are not and if one tries to bring that up she just throws out personal insults.
Ora et Labora Posted September 15, 2006 Posted September 15, 2006 [quote name='track2004' post='1063478' date='Sep 15 2006, 01:05 PM'] I usually think she's evil incarnate and dresses very unprofessionally (maybe like a lady of questionable morals). I've heard her talk and while some of her points are well founded some are not and if one tries to bring that up she just throws out personal insults. [/quote] true...her dress is questionable.
isilzha Posted September 15, 2006 Posted September 15, 2006 [quote name='XIX' post='1058873' date='Sep 7 2006, 11:51 PM'] But I go to college and that's really liberal, so it balances :-P [/quote] Thats how I felt about it. Well, I read Slander, and I liked it because it was funny. Started the next one, treason I think its called, but even though I'm a history major I felt that I didn't have the historical background to read it and decide on what she was saying.
catholicinsd Posted September 15, 2006 Author Posted September 15, 2006 [quote name='Ora et Labora' post='1063476' date='Sep 15 2006, 01:05 PM'] ann coulter is coming to the pro-life banquet here in houston this november to speak. [/quote] Is there going to be pie there?
Ora et Labora Posted September 15, 2006 Posted September 15, 2006 (edited) do you hate her or something? she is having us pay her $30,000 to speak. Edited September 15, 2006 by Ora et Labora
Veritas Posted September 15, 2006 Posted September 15, 2006 (edited) + I knew I liked Ann Coulter when I heard her say (and I paraphrase here), "So what if we ARE going to Iraq for the oil? Where do all these complaining liberal celebrities think the oil for their private jets is coming from?" (Include Kerry/Heinz here) She's so right and so unapologetic. Furthermore, and perhaps most importantly, she is logical and rational --no wonder the left hates her. She just says it straight. Endearing or infuriating. She doesn't "make nice", i.e. sugar coat what she thinks for others. I find that refreshing --straight talk the cliche, but here aptly applied. She suffers a lot for being honest. "fundamentalist" ? Someone will need to define and explain why that is a bad thing before I take that as an insult. In most cases in popular usage, it simply means "not secularized" and that, my friends, is a good thing. Blessings. Edited September 15, 2006 by Veritas
catholicinsd Posted September 15, 2006 Author Posted September 15, 2006 [quote name='Ora et Labora' post='1063519' date='Sep 15 2006, 01:53 PM'] do you hate her or something? she is having us pay her $30,000 to speak. [/quote] That's 30,000 down the gutter.
Veritas Posted September 15, 2006 Posted September 15, 2006 [quote name='catholicinsd' post='1063562' date='Sep 15 2006, 12:46 PM'] That's 30,000 down the gutter. [/quote] + Yes, she'll probably just speak really powerfully and poignantly about pro-life issues in America --can you believe it? What a waste. They should have paid someone to just side-step around the issues and tell us we're all fine. [quote name='catholicinsd' post='1063502' date='Sep 15 2006, 11:30 AM'] Is there going to be pie there? [/quote] Ann Coulter may be a lot of things you don't agree with, but at least she doesn't resort to physical violence against those she disagrees with. Individuals, who resort to this, only prove they have none of the "tolerance" for which they so generally vehemently argue for and no self control either.
isilzha Posted September 15, 2006 Posted September 15, 2006 If your best argument is throwing a pie at someone, that isn't saying much.
track2004 Posted September 15, 2006 Posted September 15, 2006 But her replies to some things are just as bad. She spoke at my college and when one of the male students questioned her about her views on something she just called him a "gay boy". She can give a somewhat decent speech, and writes okay, but she can not debate. You're basically paying 30K to hear someone rail on democrats and if that's what you want fine, but it isn't constructive at all because it is just one person's view and she can't persuasively argue. And that's sad because she is smart and went to a great law school so you think she'd understand persuasion, but instead she learned how to cause a ruckous.
zwergel88 Posted September 15, 2006 Posted September 15, 2006 [quote name='Ora et Labora' post='1063519' date='Sep 15 2006, 12:53 PM'] do you hate her or something? [/quote] Yes.
Veritas Posted September 15, 2006 Posted September 15, 2006 (edited) [quote name='track2004' post='1063595' date='Sep 15 2006, 01:45 PM'] But her replies to some things are just as bad. She spoke at my college and when one of the male students questioned her about her views on something she just called him a "gay boy". She can give a somewhat decent speech, and writes okay, but she can not debate. You're basically paying 30K to hear someone rail on democrats and if that's what you want fine, but it isn't constructive at all because it is just one person's view and she can't persuasively argue. And that's sad because she is smart and went to a great law school so you think she'd understand persuasion, but instead she learned how to cause a ruckous. [/quote] + I think she can debate, she just doesn't want to bother. I think she's annoyed by the stupidity of others when things appear so clearly to her. In addition, some individuals are so relativistic (the left and parts of the right), there's no basis for debate. Part of her charm is her refusal to be "persuasive". It's not "how" one says things -after all, that can be deceiving- it's "what" one says. The "what" is the crux, the important part. I think she wants the "what" to stand on its own --because in her mind, it CAN. Furthemore, she may be perfect for a "rally" or meeting. She can get people excited. To be at a pro-life event, an event, which isn't about debate but information and encouragement, I bet she'll be amazing. As far as railing on democrats, I'm sorry, but as long as they support the killing of babies and homosexuality, they've no chance of receiving my vote or support --they deserve to be "railed" on. [quote name='zwergel88' post='1063596' date='Sep 15 2006, 01:48 PM'] Yes. [/quote] Everytime I see you post something, especially regarding "hating someone" I do a double take; because, I see St. Therese and so associate her with your words, which are things I couldn't picture her saying, I have to remind myself it's you and not her I'm reading! Edited September 15, 2006 by Veritas
ardillacid Posted September 15, 2006 Posted September 15, 2006 [quote name='zwergel88' post='1063596' date='Sep 15 2006, 03:48 PM'] Yes. [/quote] "But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven." [quote name='catholicinsd' post='1063562' date='Sep 15 2006, 02:46 PM'] That's 30,000 down the gutter. [/quote] The irony of this situation vs. your signature is very amusing
Veritas Posted September 15, 2006 Posted September 15, 2006 [quote name='notardillacid' post='1063627' date='Sep 15 2006, 02:32 PM'] "But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven." [/quote] Amen. Thanks for the reminder ND.
track2004 Posted September 15, 2006 Posted September 15, 2006 Any lawyer will tell you persuasion is just as much what you say as how you say it. The fact she does not choose to be persuasive just indicates how eletists she is and how stupid she thinks we all are. In her speech she gave good points, but absolutely refused to engage in any dialogue with my classmates (schoolmates whatever). Talking down to democrats and completely wrighting them off as dumb will not win any swing votes and frankly pissed a bunch of republicans off because we know better than to endorse what she did.
ardillacid Posted September 15, 2006 Posted September 15, 2006 ...and therefore we should equate her with the dog shinobi on our shoes
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