Budge, Cite Your Source

[Winchester]

[quote name='Budge' post='1065262' date='Sep 17 2006, 04:53 PM']
From Catholic Apologist Technique List.
Cant you folks come up with better then this?
* 3: Accusation of hate technique


Insist vehemently that your opponent is full of hate.
It is always advisable to paint your opponent as hateful.
This technique should always contain a reference,
to your extreme caringness and the limitless bounds of your great humility.


[/quote]


Where's that from?

Which book, who gave the Imprimatur and the Nihil Obstat.

I am not saying it does not exist, nor that the two things above are infallible actions, I merely want you to cite your accusation, not that it's an official teaching.

Really, Budge, who are you trying to convince with this stuff? How does it bear on Catholicism if someone wrote this? It's not dogmatic. Explain, for the love of sanity if nothing else. I mean, I make fun of you alot, and this is just so incredibly sad that I'm having a hard time. It's getting to be like kicking an old blind dog. You're really falling apart at the seams here.

That aside, cite your source. I'd love to read this book.

[phatcatholic]

one of the members of his ezboard wrote that. u won't find it in a book or anything. i've seen it before, from the Former Catholics For Christ ezboard, and most of their members belong to his board too.

[Winchester]

Thanks. I'll wait for Budge. I don't want to jump the gun.

[Winchester]

bump.

[kamiller42]

Double bump. I've done a Google search for this supposed list. I can't find anything except references to Budge. I think it's fudged.

Next, we will see references to "credible" sites claiming the Pope to be a Reptilian.

Edited September 19, 2006 by kamiller42

[Winchester]

bump. 7:45 activity. No answer.

[Didymus]

[quote name='phatcatholic' post='1065653' date='Sep 17 2006, 11:43 PM']
one of the members of his ezboard wrote that. u won't find it in a book or anything. i've seen it before, from the Former Catholics For Christ ezboard, and most of their members belong to his board too.
[/quote]

ahhhh...

Former Catholics for Christ

good times, good times

[goldenchild17]

[quote name='kamiller42' post='1066290' date='Sep 18 2006, 08:11 PM']
Double bump. I've done a Google search for this supposed list. I can't find anything except references to Budge. I think it's fudged.

Next, we will see references to "credible" sites claiming the Pope to be a Reptilian.
[/quote]

It's from a catholic apologist's blog, who I believe was quoting a protestant (who came up with such a list) in debate: [url="http://socrates58.blogspot.com/2005/10/anti-catholics-david-gibson-1st.html"]http://socrates58.blogspot.com/2005/10/ant...gibson-1st.html[/url]

At least that's the only place I could find it.

Edited September 19, 2006 by goldenchild17

[Winchester]

bump

[kamiller42]

[quote name='goldenchild17' post='1066299' date='Sep 18 2006, 08:37 PM']
It's from a catholic apologist's blog, who I believe was quoting a protestant (who came up with such a list) in debate: [url="http://socrates58.blogspot.com/2005/10/anti-catholics-david-gibson-1st.html"]http://socrates58.blogspot.com/2005/10/ant...gibson-1st.html[/url]

At least that's the only place I could find it.
[/quote]
I bow to a superior internet researcher. Thanks for the find!

So Budge portraying an Apologist Technique list as being written by a Catholic when it was actually written by a Protestant would be... oh what's the word? Deceptive! From Budge? Not surprising.

[Winchester]

bump.
Budgie, I know you looked at this.
Put up or shut up.

[Justified Saint]

I know -- you forgot to say "please!"

[KnightofChrist]

[quote name='kamiller42' post='1066433' date='Sep 18 2006, 10:16 PM']
I bow to a superior internet researcher. Thanks for the find!

So Budge portraying an Apologist Technique list as being written by a Catholic when it was actually written by a Protestant would be... oh what's the word? Deceptive! From Budge? Not surprising.
[/quote]


You know, I really dont think thats the cause, really. It is more likey she just doesnt read all of what she quotes from.

[Buzzard]

[quote name='goldenchild17' post='1066299' date='Sep 18 2006, 07:37 PM']
It's from a catholic apologist's blog, who I believe was quoting a protestant (who came up with such a list) in debate: [url="http://socrates58.blogspot.com/2005/10/anti-catholics-david-gibson-1st.html"]http://socrates58.blogspot.com/2005/10/ant...gibson-1st.html[/url]

At least that's the only place I could find it.
[/quote]
try here

[b][u]Techniques[/u][/b]
[url="http://p094.ezboard.com/fcatholicreformationfrm19.showMessage?topicID=42.topic"]http://p094.ezboard.com/fcatholicreformati...opicID=42.topic[/url]

I'm the guilty party

[CatholicCid]

So your the "they" in "they posted it"

Though, I agree with the blogger... Saying Catholic's use Ad Hominen then using thme in the actual arguments

Edited September 19, 2006 by CatholicCid

[Winchester]

Well, thank you Buzzard. Apparently, Budge thinks you are the best writer we have to offer. What an incredible honor! You should send her a note and some chocolates.

Tell me, Buzzard, have you ever indicated that you possess any authority within the Catholic Church? I wish to understand Budge's use of your teachings, and seeing as the cat has her fingers, I shall rely further upon your kindness.

[Justified Saint]

Lol, some of these are funny.

I especially like number 9:

[quote]9:- Stalking Technique

Harass the Christian until he becomes a Catholic.
Can utilize any of the other above methods.
The object is to fill their e-mail and guestbooks daily with Catholic apologetics.
When your opponent will no longer respond to you,
insist that he is afraid to debate you.
Continue to harass them until they denounce speaking out against Catholicism
or you are at risk of losing your ISP account for a second time.
If you are about to lose your ISP a second time,
pass the baton over to a fellow Catholic apologist. [/quote]

Reverse the order of some of the terms (i.e. Catholic and Christian) and it sounds very similar to what some do around here!

[mariahLVzJP2]

exactly!

[heavenseeker]

yeah, cite your sorces!

[Winchester]

[quote name='Justified Saint' post='1066910' date='Sep 19 2006, 05:05 PM']
Lol, some of these are funny.

I especially like number 9:
Reverse the order of some of the terms (i.e. Catholic and Christian) and it sounds very similar to what some do around here!
[/quote]


Now I know it's just baiting when you accuse Catholics of not being Christian, but out of curiosity, what would be the criteria for being Christian? Is believing in the divinity of Christ enough? Loving Him? I do recall something about Love being the greatest. Faith Hope and Love, the greatest being love. All being necessary. I've never heard being perfect as a requirement, so it seems being honestly mistaken in one's faith, but pursuing that misguided faith with love would amount to something.

I also recall something about not being able to know what's in a man's heart, but I could be wrong.

It's nice to have a new troll, honestly.