Interesting Take On Sex Scandals In Evangelical Groups

[LuchaporElRey21]

She is flat wrong. She makes it seem like all humans can do is screw up all the time and never make any serious progress in the way of virtues, etc.

Sure, every effort we make for sexual purity in this life is limping and we will never accomplish this on earth, we can still make an attempt. And Christ IS the cure for addictions.

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='LuchaporElRey21' post='1119392' date='Nov 13 2006, 11:14 PM']
She is flat wrong. She makes it seem like all humans can do is screw up all the time and never make any serious progress in the way of virtues, etc.

Sure, every effort we make for sexual purity in this life is limping and we will never accomplish this on earth, we can still make an attempt. And Christ IS the cure for addictions.
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who is she?

[track2004]

[quote name='LuchaporElRey21' post='1119392' date='Nov 13 2006, 11:14 PM']
She is flat wrong. She makes it seem like all humans can do is screw up all the time and never make any serious progress in the way of virtues, etc.

Sure, every effort we make for sexual purity in this life is limping and we will never accomplish this on earth, we can still make an attempt. And Christ IS the cure for addictions.
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But isn't that what we do, who we are, screw ups? I mean we fell, we sin, we messed all of this up. I can't even really say we've made tons of progress since then. We're struggling with the same things Moses' people did: false idols, sex, murder, etc. We have laws now to punish things and our society is more advanced but really where have we gotten in the way of virtues?

Christ isn't the cure, or I don't think He is. He is a guide, a path to a more virtuous life. Just because a person has SSA and converts doesn't mean Christ will get rid of that, it gives them some way to deal with it. But even then, maybe it's not working. Being gay is more than some condition, more than something that can be fixed. Telling someone that can't have SSA anymore is like telling a straight person not to think about sex again. You can't; it's there. You can ask them to not participate or induldge, but it'll still be there.

I agree with the article. I don't know what else the church (Catholic or otherwise) can do besides tell people to pray and repent, but I hope there is something. Not just for being gay either, but for anything. In my experience with the Church, it's always felt like I was supposed to be good and holy and virtuous and got punished when I wasn't. It fells like I'm supposed to be at Point B, when I really just started at Point A and all I'm getting are vague directions on which way to go. Maybe that's where the Catholic Guilt I have comes from...

[Katholikos]

The author of the article refers to "the evangelical church." There are thousands of conflicting and competing evangelical churches. She's playing "Let's pretend."

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