War On Christmas

[gamesfanatic04]

I agree that there is a war on Christmas but it's not any different than the war on any form of Christianity. The real question I have is how do we get Christmas back, and not the secular one. My fiance and I have been discussing how we would give our future children a Christian Christmas. Does anyone have any ideas?

Edited December 10, 2006 by gamesfanatic04

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='gamesfanatic04' post='1139157' date='Dec 10 2006, 03:48 AM']
I agree that there is a war on Christmas but it's not any different than the war on any form of Christianity. The real question I have is how do we get Christmas back, and not the secular one. My fiance and I have been discussing how we would give our future children a Christian Christmas. Does anyone have any ideas?
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Now thats an easy question You are just asking for this thread to be hijacked

Have a Catholic Christmass. :
Celebrate Advent with an Advent wreath, celebrate Christmas from Christmas eve to Candlemas. Keep your house filled with a minimum of gifts and commercialization [and Santas]and a maximum of love, joy, family and friends. Work at a food bank, do presents for patients, adopt a needy family. Don't let Christmas become an exchange of demand lists, but give your kids one thing that they want the most - your time and attention.

For the rest of the year - keep a Catholic liturgical calendar. Celebrate feast days, liturgical seasons, and you and your childrens Saint days. Every month offers possibilities. Pray together.

THere are lots of internet resources : domestic church, and catholicculture, and catholic exchange come to mind.

Wherever the Catholic sun doth shine,
There's laughter, cheer, and good red wine;
At least I have always found it so--
Benedicamos Domino!
--Hillaire Belloc

back to your regularly scheduled topic.

[peach_cube]

[quote name='Groo the Wanderer' post='1136606' date='Dec 6 2006, 03:46 PM']
Badger, badger, badger, badger MUSHROOM! MUSHROOM!
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SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKKKKKKKEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[got2luvjc]

in response to cmotherofpirl's post, it sounds like a good way to spend the Christmas season :

although I do think that eventually I will need to explain to my children who santa is, not as a real person, but as what the world thinks he is, and to tell them that although santa is around, Christ is the real reason for Christmas, and santa is an obscured form of St. Nicholas

[Guest T-Bone]

[quote name='catholicinsd' post='1139146' date='Dec 10 2006, 12:10 AM']
If there is fact on War on Christmas, we Christians are seeing what we've done to all the other Religous Minorities in this Nation.
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You do realize that Catholics have always been a Religious Minority, don't you?

[White Knight]

Good point T-Bone.

[Aloysius]

yep, when you think 'religious persecution in the history of the United States" the two PRIMARY EXAMPLES are #1 Catholicism especially in the form of the hoards of poor European immigrants... and... well, I guess #2 would be mormonism in that they were chased all the way to Utah.

[Groo the Wanderer]

The War is back on!

My daughter was asked to write the flyer going to home to parents asking for each kiddo to bring something for the class party. In it, she concluded by wishing everyone a Merry Christmas.

The teacher told her that was not allowed and to change it to Happy Holidays. Kathryn asked her exactly which holiday we were celebrating. The teacher got flustered. My 11 yr old then proceeded to remind her that they are not out of school ffor Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, or Ramadan. On top of that, it is not a 'Winter Break' either, since it actually starts in the last week of Fall.

Teacher was a bit put out and reminded Kathryn that 'we all have to be sure not to offend people that don't celebrate Christmas'. She was not happy when my daugther retorted (politely) that the one Muslim girl in the class DOES celebrate Christmas and even has a Christmas tree in her house. The teacher had no answer when questioned about who in the class was upset about the word 'Christmas'.

Sad thing is, this 'teacher' claims to be a Christian. I SO hate public schools! Seems we must be careful to only offend Christians now...

God help all of us who fail to defend His Church...

[frozencell]

My simple contention to anyone who doesn't think that there is a war on Christmas is this:

Why do they want to change everything that says or has to do with Christmas into "holiday season" stuff? I'll tell you why. Because they don't want Christmas around. they say it is to be all-inclusive of both people and Thanksgiving and New Year's. taht's a load of malarkey. If Christmas was during another part of the year there would be no "holiday season". No one puts up trees for Thanksgiving or New Year's -- so stop calling it a holiday tree. Most elementary schools already have a Thanksgiving play -- so stop trying to call the next one the "holiday play". And other religious observances? Well, Hannakkah is observed seperately from Christmas and has been for a long time. The other religious observances should be celebrated seperatef rom Christmas, too. The only reason someone would want to combine them is to take away the focus on Jesus Christ and His birth.

[quote name='Groo the Wanderer' post='1141029' date='Dec 13 2006, 12:20 AM']
The War is back on!

My daughter was asked to write the flyer going to home to parents asking for each kiddo to bring something for the class party. In it, she concluded by wishing everyone a Merry Christmas.

The teacher told her that was not allowed and to change it to Happy Holidays. Kathryn asked her exactly which holiday we were celebrating. The teacher got flustered. My 11 yr old then proceeded to remind her that they are not out of school ffor Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, or Ramadan. On top of that, it is not a 'Winter Break' either, since it actually starts in the last week of Fall.

Teacher was a bit put out and reminded Kathryn that 'we all have to be sure not to offend people that don't celebrate Christmas'. She was not happy when my daugther retorted (politely) that the one Muslim girl in the class DOES celebrate Christmas and even has a Christmas tree in her house. The teacher had no answer when questioned about who in the class was upset about the word 'Christmas'.

Sad thing is, this 'teacher' claims to be a Christian. I SO hate public schools! Seems we must be careful to only offend Christians now...

God help all of us who fail to defend His Church...
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That's what gets me the most about the whole thing. They say that we have to be careful to not offend anyone. But they conveniently forget completely about the Christians they are offending everyday by trying to not "offend" anyone. Just further goes to show they couldn't care less about who they offend as long as God is banned from any and all human function.

[Balthazor]

[quote name='Groo the Wanderer' post='1141029' date='Dec 13 2006, 12:20 AM']
The War is back on!

My daughter was asked to write the flyer going to home to parents asking for each kiddo to bring something for the class party. In it, she concluded by wishing everyone a Merry Christmas.

The teacher told her that was not allowed and to change it to Happy Holidays. Kathryn asked her exactly which holiday we were celebrating. The teacher got flustered. My 11 yr old then proceeded to remind her that they are not out of school ffor Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, or Ramadan. On top of that, it is not a 'Winter Break' either, since it actually starts in the last week of Fall.

Teacher was a bit put out and reminded Kathryn that 'we all have to be sure not to offend people that don't celebrate Christmas'. She was not happy when my daugther retorted (politely) that the one Muslim girl in the class DOES celebrate Christmas and even has a Christmas tree in her house. The teacher had no answer when questioned about who in the class was upset about the word 'Christmas'.

Sad thing is, this 'teacher' claims to be a Christian. I SO hate public schools! Seems we must be careful to only offend Christians now...

God help all of us who fail to defend His Church...
[/quote]

Your daughter is so cool! Just wait she will become a lawyer or a politician.... the good kind (like me) : And she will give everyone a run for thier money.

[Groo the Wanderer]

tytyty! She has my fire and intellect, but not my temper.

Makes her MUCH better suited for these kind of things. People tend to not take me as seriously in person when I turn red and my hand start shaking with anger over these kinds of things...LORF!

I'll have her look you up in 12 years or so..maybe go to work for ya!

[exquisitebones]

[quote name='Groo the Wanderer' post='1136528' date='Dec 6 2006, 11:46 AM']
Next time you go shopping and someone hits you with that 'Happy Holidays' nonsense, look em in the eye, smile broadly and sweetly, and say 'not quite. try again.'

It's amazing to see the range of responses. Some smile big and say Merry Christmas, some repeat Happy Holidays blithely, some stnad there and look all confused until you tell them to have a Merry Christmas.

[/quote]

this happened to me last year.. rmemeber that target scandal? where they told there employees not to say christmas.... my mom (who is an extremely edgy woman anyway) yelled at them when they said happy holiday. she was like "MERRY CHRISTMAS, thats the holiday CHRISTMAS!"
it was too funny. and kinda sad, cos it was not the girls fault that target sucked that year..

I think its so silly, when i was in school and everything was "winter celebration" and what not, its christmas, seriously MOST of america celebrates christmas, and with respect to the jews, I say happy chanakuh.(sp?) ( i have a few jewish firends, who dont even care......)


also, i wish that christmas was not so commerical. but thats a whole 'nother story ... :

[homeschoolmom]

[quote name='Groo the Wanderer' post='1141029' date='Dec 12 2006, 11:20 PM']
The War is back on!

My daughter was asked to write the flyer going to home to parents asking for each kiddo to bring something for the class party. In it, she concluded by wishing everyone a Merry Christmas.

The teacher told her that was not allowed and to change it to Happy Holidays. Kathryn asked her exactly which holiday we were celebrating. The teacher got flustered. My 11 yr old then proceeded to remind her that they are not out of school ffor Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, or Ramadan. On top of that, it is not a 'Winter Break' either, since it actually starts in the last week of Fall.

Teacher was a bit put out and reminded Kathryn that 'we all have to be sure not to offend people that don't celebrate Christmas'. She was not happy when my daugther retorted (politely) that the one Muslim girl in the class DOES celebrate Christmas and even has a Christmas tree in her house. The teacher had no answer when questioned about who in the class was upset about the word 'Christmas'.

Sad thing is, this 'teacher' claims to be a Christian. I SO hate public schools! Seems we must be careful to only offend Christians now...

God help all of us who fail to defend His Church...
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I like your kid...

[Groo the Wanderer]

thanks! I'm kinda fond of her myself

[cmotherofpirl]

Last night one of the networks ran a mockumentary of Christmas, just anothr little item in the war.

I am looking forward to one on the life on Joseph Smith or Mohammed or Luther.

[Quietfire]

It has been my greatest joy to wish everyone a very Merry Christmas this year at my job.

Not one complaint.

[Theoketos]

Is there a war on Christmas? Yes.

Is Bill O'Reilly fair and apt in his coverage of it? No.

[MrsFrozen]

[quote name='Pontifite 7 of 10' post='1135488' date='Dec 5 2006, 09:54 AM']
Frankly there is a war on everything Catholics belive.
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Oh, I agree with you!