Didymus Posted February 12, 2007 Posted February 12, 2007 [quote name='Urib2007' post='1192394' date='Feb 12 2007, 11:44 AM'] When the Supreme Court says something is unconstitutional, it's unconstitutional.[/quote] yeah, just like when they said it's unconstitutional to protect the child in the womb. Are you even an American?
Phoenix Reborn Posted February 12, 2007 Posted February 12, 2007 [quote name='Didymus' post='1192516' date='Feb 12 2007, 11:54 AM'] yeah, just like when they said it's unconstitutional to protect the child in the womb. Are you even an American? [/quote] Nope, she's not American. Same with Truthseeker777.
cmotherofpirl Posted February 12, 2007 Posted February 12, 2007 [quote name='Urib2007' post='1192394' date='Feb 12 2007, 12:44 PM'] [size=3]"The Power of tax is the power to destroy." - Supreme Court Chief Justice John Marshall[/size] [size=5]A PARTIAL LIST OF TAXES AMERICANS ARE FORCED TO PAY[/size] Accounts Receivable Tax Automobile Registration Tax Building Permit Tax Capital Gains Tax CDL License Tax Cigarrette Tax Corporate Income Tax Court Fines (indirect taxes) Dog License Tax Estate Tax Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA) Fishing License Tax Food License Tax Fuel Permit Tax Gasoline Tax (42 cents for gallon) Hunting License Tax Inheritance Tax Interest Expense (Tax on your money) Inventory Tax IRS Interest Charges (Tax on Top of Tax) Liquor Tax IRS Penalties (Tax on top of tax) Local Income Tax Luxury Taxes Marriage License Tax Medicare Tax Parking Meters Property Tax Real Estate Tax Septic Permit Tax Social Security Tax Service Charge Taxes Road Usage Taxes (Truckers) Sales Taxes Recreational Vehicle Tax Road toll booth Taxes School Tax State Income Tax State unemployment Tax (SUTA) Telephone Federal Excise Tax Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Tax Telephone Federal State & Local Surcharge Taxes Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax Telephone Recurring and Non recurring charges tax Telephone State and Local tax Telephone Usage Charge Tax Toll Bridge Taxes Toll Tunnel Taxes Traffic Fines Trailer Registration Tax Utility Taxes Vehicle License Registration Tax Vehicle Sales Tax Watercraft Registration Tax Well Permit Tax Workers Compensation Tax and then there's [size=5]FEDERAL INCOME TAX![/size] "We've been told we need the federal income tax to fund government, which is ridiculous. If that's true how did we fund government from 1776 to 1913?" - Peter Gibbons (Tax Attorney) "The main purpose of the income tax is not to raise revenue, but to re-distribute wealth and to control society." - G. Edware Griffin (author) "A lot of people might say, 'Well, gee if there wasn't an income tax, what would happen to education?' Education is paid for by local property taxes. How are we going to build and maintain our highways? Tax on Gasoline pays for America's highways. The amount of money we spend on defence is equal to the amount of corporate income tax which is legal and constitutional." - Bob Schulz [i]We the People Foundation[/i] [color="#000099"]"Congress tried to enact an income tax in 1894, the Supreme Court said that it is UNCONSTITUTIONAL. When the Supreme Court says something is unconstitutional, it's unconstitutional. They tried again in 1913, the Supreme Court said the 16th Amendment conferred no new power of taxation, so if they didn't have it then, they don't have it! There is NO CONSTITUTIONAL BASIS FOR TAX ON THE WAGES OF AMERICANS LIVING AND WORKING IN THE 50 STATES OF THE UNION" - Peter Gibbons (Tax Attorney)[/color] [/quote] lol, I pay 4 of the above : and you got so many things wrong. Why don't you post a list of taxes Brits pay and we can enjoy that one too.
Didymus Posted February 12, 2007 Posted February 12, 2007 Is a parking meter really considered a tax?
cmotherofpirl Posted February 12, 2007 Posted February 12, 2007 See what I mean by gettting things wrong??
Urib2007 Posted February 12, 2007 Author Posted February 12, 2007 [quote name='Phoenix Reborn' post='1192540' date='Feb 12 2007, 12:21 PM'] Nope, she's not American. Same with Truthseeker777. [/quote] I'm actually an American. Why don't you ask me instead of coming up with your own conclusions.
cmotherofpirl Posted February 12, 2007 Posted February 12, 2007 [quote name='Urib2007' post='1192571' date='Feb 12 2007, 03:58 PM'] I'm actually an American. Why don't you ask me instead of coming up with your own conclusions. [/quote] I just go by IP addys unless you are rerouting.
Didymus Posted February 12, 2007 Posted February 12, 2007 (edited) [quote name='Urib2007' post='1192571' date='Feb 12 2007, 02:58 PM'] I'm actually an American. Why don't you ask me instead of coming up with your own conclusions. [/quote] I did ask you. Why dont you answer my comments on your video [quote name='Didymus' post='1192359' date='Feb 12 2007, 10:51 AM'] I finally watched the whole thing. Here's some random thoughts and things I've found: -If the government did not borrow money, and instead made its own, inflation would go crazy. This is 101 material here. The federal government is a debtor and a creditor just like everyone else. -The clip with the reporter is edited: '...managed by a small group of people'[division]'responsible for coming up...' you can tell if you watch the numbers sliding by on the bottom of the screen. This is a blatantly doctored peice of propaganda dude. -The paper we call money is money because the people recognize it as having value. The belief in ousting the gold standard is not American. Everyone is doing it. -They didnt even site where they learned that Bush is tapping private phone calls! nor did they tell us where they heard of 'Echelon.' -The last part of this video had little to do with America, but with the world There is WAY too much of this film that states facts that it cannot prove and takes an authoritative position that in cannot support. The national debt started with the War of Independence. The national debt gives the federal government something to pay off to obtain good credit thus helping the economy. [/quote] Edited February 12, 2007 by Didymus
Urib2007 Posted February 12, 2007 Author Posted February 12, 2007 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1192574' date='Feb 12 2007, 01:01 PM'] I just go by IP addys unless you are rerouting. [/quote] I'm an American living overseas.
Phoenix Reborn Posted February 12, 2007 Posted February 12, 2007 (edited) [quote name='Urib2007' post='1192571' date='Feb 12 2007, 12:58 PM'] I'm actually an American. Why don't you ask me instead of coming up with your own conclusions. [/quote] Cause I like coming up with my own conclusions. I'm a lone thinker. That's what a writer is, unless there's two writers. And you know what? I'm a writer, and I like thinking. Edited February 12, 2007 by Phoenix Reborn
Urib2007 Posted February 12, 2007 Author Posted February 12, 2007 [color="#990000"] [size=3]Bush defends phone-tapping policy [/size][/color] US President George W Bush has again defended his decision to allow eavesdropping on Americans in the wake of the 2001 terror attacks. Speaking at a press conference, Mr Bush also repeated that he would continue to authorise the secret monitoring. He also urged Congress to renew the Patriot Act, the top US anti-terror law, saying it provided officials with the tools to protect Americans. "We cannot afford to be without this law for a single moment," he said. It was not in the best interests of the country for people to "play politics" with the Patriot Act, he said, while answering reporters' questions. The legislation has cleared the House of Representatives, but the Senate has rejected an attempt to reauthorize several sections of the bill. The legislation is due to expire at the end of the month. [b]'Helping the enemy'[/b] Mr Bush also said he expected a "full investigation" into who leaked information about the wiretap programme. "My personal opinion is it was a shameful act for someone to disclose this very important programme in a time of war," he said. The fact that we're discussing this programme is helping the enemy President George W Bush "The fact that we're discussing this programme is helping the enemy," he added. The New York Times reported last Friday that Mr Bush had signed a secret presidential order following the 11 September 2001 attacks, allowing the National Security Agency to track the international telephone calls and e-mails of hundreds of people without referral to the courts. Previously, surveillance on American soil was generally limited to foreign embassies. Mr Bush emphasised that only international calls were monitored without a court order - those originating in the US, or those placed from overseas to individuals living in the US. He reminded reporters that calls placed and received within the US could be monitored under orders granted by a secret court under the provisions of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. The president, struggling with low approval ratings and public discontent with the US death toll in Iraq, also defended his decision to invade the country, saying "it wasn't a mistake" and that "history will judge". On Sunday, in his fifth speech on Iraq in the past few weeks, Mr Bush appealed to Americans not to give in to despair over the war. [url="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4542880.stm"]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4542880.stm[/url] [center][img]http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/7689/phonetap2td.jpg[/img] [/center]
cmotherofpirl Posted February 12, 2007 Posted February 12, 2007 Good poster Is there a point to this, its 2005 news? If you really want some attention send some emails in code and see how fast British Secret Service pays you a visit.
Didymus Posted February 12, 2007 Posted February 12, 2007 my goodness you have a terrible case of cut and paste
Urib2007 Posted February 12, 2007 Author Posted February 12, 2007 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1192591' date='Feb 12 2007, 01:31 PM'] Good poster Is there a point to this, its 2005 news? If you really want some attention send some emails in code and see how fast British Secret Service pays you a visit. [/quote] The reason I posted that article was because Didymus asked me for proof on the phone tapping. Is there a point you keep bringing up the British and the EU?
Didymus Posted February 12, 2007 Posted February 12, 2007 (edited) [quote name='Urib2007' post='1192624' date='Feb 12 2007, 04:30 PM'] The reason I posted that article was because Didymus asked me for proof on the phone tapping. Is there a point you keep bringing up the British and the EU? [/quote] I asked for proof on more than that. That rediculous video makes alot of far-fetched statements that it doesnt prove. Edited February 12, 2007 by Didymus
cmotherofpirl Posted February 12, 2007 Posted February 12, 2007 [quote name='Urib2007' post='1192624' date='Feb 12 2007, 05:30 PM'] The reason I posted that article was because Didymus asked me for proof on the phone tapping. Is there a point you keep bringing up the British and the EU? [/quote] Yuo are living abroad. Start sending emails in code in the US and you will have homeland security on your doorstep here as well.
Urib2007 Posted February 12, 2007 Author Posted February 12, 2007 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1192662' date='Feb 12 2007, 03:14 PM'] Yuo are living abroad. Start sending emails in code in the US and you will have homeland security on your doorstep here as well. [/quote] For a reason I didn't state where I'm living in this forum, so thanks for exposing that to everyone and revealing personal info.
KnightofChrist Posted February 12, 2007 Posted February 12, 2007 Well Urib if you dont pay taxes they'll find you without Cmom, and if you do pay taxes bit of a hypocrisy. So do you pay taxes, or not? Is this all talk, or are you real enuff to go by your words? Be Honest God knows the truth.
Urib2007 Posted February 12, 2007 Author Posted February 12, 2007 [quote name='KnightofChrist' post='1192722' date='Feb 12 2007, 04:01 PM'] Well Urib if you dont pay taxes they'll find you without Cmom, and if you do pay taxes bit of a hypocrisy. So do you pay taxes, or not? Is this all talk, or are you real enuff to go by your words? Be Honest God knows the truth. [/quote] I don't live in America man, so why on earth would I pay federal income tax? In the UK there is actually a LAW stating that we have to pay income tax, so yes, people here have to pay their income taxes. We don't have a Constitution like in the USA. In the USA, there ISN'T a LAW stating you have to pay federal income tax. If I was in America, I'd hire an attorney and fight not to pay my income tax unless THE IRS can show me where the law is. I think people need to stand up and fight for what they believe in instead of living in fear of what the IRS could do to you because that's why most people pay their taxes out of fear for what they could do to you.
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