Urib2007 Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 What are your thoughts and opinions on taking birth control pills?
cmotherofpirl Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 Its contraceptive, and abortive and wrong.
prose Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 Absolutely, totally 100% opposed. I think that the Billings Method is more effective, safer, more moral, and allows for women to deal with medical issues without having to stuff horomones into themselves which are harmful to them, and others. Not that I have strong opinions ont his
prose Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 Plus I think that drug companies get millions of dollars for harming women and society. AND that they lead to more abortions (in addition to the early abortive facts).
got2luvjc Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 yup. I agree. and, taking birth control pills SIGNIFICANTLY increases a woman's risk of breast cancer now, tell a guy to take pills that lower the risk of pregnancy, but that also increase his risk of prostate cancer, and see how many guys take the pills (my guess would be... uummmm... ZERO)
prose Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 Although, the side effects of vasectomies are quite significant too, and enough men get that too...
Maggyie Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 I find The Pill, and contraception in general, to be extremely debasing to women.
Urib2007 Posted February 28, 2007 Author Posted February 28, 2007 I commend all of you who oppose birth control pills. That is one thing I'm 100% against. The Catholic Church has always done a good job in opposing this issue. It's appalling how many women don't know about the dangers of birth control pills. Birth Control pills possess an extreme amount of side effects. I can't believe the FDA has even approved some of them. I know many girls take them solely for acne purposes, and I think that's okay as long as they're abstaining from having sexual intercourse. In the UK, birth control pills are freely given out. You don't even need to pay for them. Most GP's who provide prescriptions for birth control pills have absolutely no clue on what they are giving women. I think all of this birth control business has something to do with reducing the population. Soon people will be able to get their free birth control pills without a doctor's prescription (in the UK).
prose Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 [quote name='Urib2007' post='1205567' date='Feb 27 2007, 07:04 PM']I know many girls take them solely for acne purposes, and I think that's okay as long as they're abstaining from having sexual intercourse.[/quote] Why is it okay that a woman put her life at risk, with a pill that has such MAJOR side effects for acne treatment?? Who cares if they are having sex or not. The side effects still apply to this female.
Urib2007 Posted February 28, 2007 Author Posted February 28, 2007 Most antibiotics, foods, pills, etc. have side effects that harm your body and your health. Most illnesses can be healed with natural products. Did you know aspartame is harmful to your body? Did you know MSG is harmful to your body? Do you know about the side effects of soy products? Even vaccines are harmful to your body.
Socrates Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 Contraceptive birth control pills are wrong whether or not they harm a woman's body.
The Joey-O Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 I agree, contraceptive, especially the pill, is wrong. I'd like to hear people's opinion on what to do if a doctor attempts to perscibe birth control, say for painful periods or some other condition that they assume birth control is a cure-all for.
N/A Gone Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 [quote name='Urib2007' post='1205567' date='Feb 27 2007, 08:04 PM']I know many girls take them solely for acne purposes, and I think that's okay as long as they're abstaining from having sexual intercourse.[/quote] What is she taking. I cant think of an acne situation where there is not an alternative that is not only better for her health, but also not a BCP. [quote name='Urib2007' post='1205588' date='Feb 27 2007, 08:52 PM']Most antibiotics, foods, pills, etc. have side effects that harm your body and your health. Most illnesses can be healed with natural products. Did you know aspartame is harmful to your body? Did you know MSG is harmful to your body? Do you know about the side effects of soy products? Even vaccines are harmful to your body.[/quote] Comparatively no. Antibiotics are used in extreme conditions, and their side effects (I assume you mean the killing of good bacteria) is handled in context Your illness claim is wrong, many times proper nutrition can be a preventative, but say you have erythromyacin resistant bacteria (not very uncommon) you better do more than eat right. You need to be taking a ridiculous amount of soy for a ridculious amount of time for side effects. Im not a doctor, but I almost was. Im willing to go back and forth on this sir.
onathing1 Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 Contraception is definately wrong. No doubt about it.
Archaeology cat Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 (edited) [quote name='The Joey-O' post='1205610' date='Feb 28 2007, 03:41 AM']I agree, contraceptive, especially the pill, is wrong. I'd like to hear people's opinion on what to do if a doctor attempts to perscibe birth control, say for painful periods or some other condition that they assume birth control is a cure-all for.[/quote] I was on the pill for severe dysmenorrhea & metomenorraghia. In other words, painful periods and irregular heavy bleeding. The pain could only be controlled with narcotics, and the bleeding was bad enough that I couldn't function some days, and I was quite anaemic. I am now off the pill and trying to figure out the exact cause of these things, as that isn't something they really tried to do before. I was 16 when I went on the pill and didn't know about all the long-term effects (the pill I was on can take 2 years after coming off it to ovulate again, luckily I didn't have that side effect). My doctor did a blood test & ultrasound, but had already made up her mind to put me on the pill. This happens far too often, and I can see how it could be more prevalent in the UK since the pill is free to patients. As I got older I started investigating more and asking other doctors, but most were unwilling to take me off the pill once I was on it. It took moving to the UK, ironically, to find a doctor that would work with me and give me a non-hormonal medicine. We're still working on it, but I'm so happy to be off the pill and can't imagine going back. Even though it was for medical reasons, I hated being on it and didn't feel like it was fair to my husband. Billings is much better. As for what to do when your doctor says to do this, do some research, and request all the necessary tests (I believe thyroid, LSH, FH, blood sugar, testosterone are the most common blood tests, but I could be wrong; also request an ultrasound, both regular & vaginal). Make sure your doctor knows you do not want a hormonal treatment if the problem itself is not hormonal. Even then there may be other options. If your doctor knows your opinions, and you come in prepared with information, they're more likely to listen to you. It took me awhile to learn that, unfortunately. I do, however, recognize some medical conditions that require hormonal therapy. Contraception is not the target, but a side effect, and some are not even on a BCP type of hormone. For example, endometriosis is sometimes linked to estrogen levels, and some form of hormone therapy is sometimes used. I have not known it to actually work, but then I only know 2 people with severe endo. Hopefully doctors will continue doing more research into the causes of these things instead of just finding a band-aid in the form of the pill. Edited February 28, 2007 by Archaeology cat
traichuoi Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 [quote name='Socrates' post='1205605' date='Feb 27 2007, 06:16 PM']Contraceptive birth control pills are wrong whether or not they harm a woman's body.[/quote] Agreed here. Regardless of what it does to the woman, that is not the dominant moral implication. And thank you Archaeology Cat...that is a beautiful sharing that I am sure alot of women could benefit from.
N/A Gone Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 [quote name='The Joey-O' post='1205610' date='Feb 27 2007, 09:41 PM']I agree, contraceptive, especially the pill, is wrong. I'd like to hear people's opinion on what to do if a doctor attempts to perscibe birth control, say for painful periods or some other condition that they assume birth control is a cure-all for.[/quote] [quote name='Archaeology cat' post='1205749' date='Feb 28 2007, 09:30 AM']Hopefully doctors will continue doing more research into the causes of these things instead of just finding a band-aid in the form of the pill.[/quote] Joey, To my understanding the church would not permit the usage of birth control bills, regardless of the situation. I say regardless because I do not believe there is a mortal situation they help solve that can not be helped in other ways. As Archaeology cat graciously said Doctors often put a patient on BCP as a band-aid. It stabilizes the situation and makes the symptoms of the problem disappear. But the problem is still there. If she has something really wrong with her like an advanced PID, or something else that only shows on major tests, then putting someone on a BCP is not helping them. Now, if it is just for a "bad period" then we also need to understand that prior to the 60's every woman in the world never used the BCP. As a guy I might sound like a jerk here, but BCP never cured anything besides children in sexually irresponsable parents. There are other ways to deal with a "bad period" (midol, coco, an iron supplement, Omega 3 and some chick-flicks with her ever lovin hubby takin care of her...that way you deal with it as a couple) ok, /rant..
Archaeology cat Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 (edited) [quote name='Revprodeji' post='1205803' date='Feb 28 2007, 06:16 PM']Joey, To my understanding the church would not permit the usage of birth control bills, regardless of the situation. I say regardless because I do not believe there is a mortal situation they help solve that can not be helped in other ways. As Archaeology cat graciously said Doctors often put a patient on BCP as a band-aid. It stabilizes the situation and makes the symptoms of the problem disappear. But the problem is still there. If she has something really wrong with her like an advanced PID, or something else that only shows on major tests, then putting someone on a BCP is not helping them. Now, if it is just for a "bad period" then we also need to understand that prior to the 60's every woman in the world never used the BCP. As a guy I might sound like a jerk here, but BCP never cured anything besides children in sexually irresponsable parents. There are other ways to deal with a "bad period" (midol, coco, an iron supplement, Omega 3 and some chick-flicks with her ever lovin hubby takin care of her...that way you deal with it as a couple) ok, /rant..[/quote] I don't think you sound like a jerk. I think it really boils down to women, and men, needing to be more educated about it. I certainly wasn't educated about it at first, but had to do a lot of my own research (and I was helped out some by working at an OB/GYN office for a year or so in high school). Oh, and ditch the chick-flicks. Sci-fi or Indiana Jones all the way. : Edited February 28, 2007 by Archaeology cat
Archaeology cat Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 [quote name='traichuoi' post='1205770' date='Feb 28 2007, 05:10 PM']And thank you Archaeology Cat...that is a beautiful sharing that I am sure alot of women could benefit from.[/quote] Thanks.
Thy Geekdom Come Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 During the trial stage for the pill, there was originally a male form as well as a female form. Males experienced slight testicular shrinkage and their product was discontinued. Three women died and their prescription was reduced. Just some factoids for y'all.
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