Opinions On Birth Control Pills

[Didymus]

yeah, anytime someone brings up how some have to use the pill for other purposes which is suppose to make it morally acceptable, I like to tell them about those women that died.

how many trial stages for other medications cancel the medicine if it is in the least harmful, and this is worse, with those women dying from it? Why do people close their eyes to this?

[cathoholic_anonymous]

[quote]yeah, anytime someone brings up how some have to use the pill for other purposes which is suppose to make it morally acceptable, I like to tell them about those women that died.[/quote]Catholic teaching does permit women to take the Pill for valid medical reasons. (Acne is not one of them.)

[quote]Now, if it is just for a "bad period" then we also need to understand that prior to the 60's every woman in the world never used the BCP. As a guy I might sound like a jerk here, but BCP never cured anything besides children in sexually irresponsable parents.[/quote]

BCP also helped my sister to walk. Her periods are so terrible that she literally can't stand up straight. She used to crawl down the landing to get to the bathroom. She's been hospitalised on more than one occasion. Her periods also lasted for an abnormal length of time - sometimes up to two weeks. As you can imagine, she can't afford to spend half of each month in bed, especially not with a husband and a child and a job to manage. Homeopathic and herbal remedies have already been tried. The Pill obviously hasn't 'cured' her problem, only stoppered it, but it's the best the doctor has been able to do in five years of treating her. It's not an ideal situation, but no sickness or disorder ever is. If your reasons for taking the Pill are not contraceptive then you aren't morally culpable.

[avemaria40]

I am against any and all contraceptives, but especially hormonal birth control. Here's why:
1. It can still cause early chemical abortions. If all else fails in preventing ovulation and conception, it can prevent an embryo from implanting, which means a child dies.
2. It's unsafe. According to the National Institutes of Health, b/c pills can cause breast cancer (though the risk drops if you stop taking it for ten years) and can increase your risk of cervical cancer by 15% if you take it for more than ten years. There is also risk of heart attacks, stroke, and blood clots. Yes, usually these risks tend to be for women who smoke and are over 35 but (though it wasn't the pill) there have been teens who've died from blood clots after taking hormonal birth control.
3. It's reproductive poison, why fix something that isn't broken?
4. It's way too overprescribed. Doctors give those pills for multiple medical problems that can be treated by other means. There are many ways of treating cramps, acne, etc. and many treatments for other ailments. I'd rather find out [i][/i]why[i][/i] my period isn't regular than just take some pills


Not to mention that contraception is gravely sinful and offends Our Lord.

[cmotherofpirl]

I can also destroy a woman's sex drive, which is something all husbands should REALLY take into consideration.

[MissScripture]

[quote name='Cathoholic Anonymous' post='1205936' date='Feb 28 2007, 06:19 PM']Catholic teaching does permit women to take the Pill for valid medical reasons. (Acne is not one of them.)
BCP also helped my sister to walk. Her periods are so terrible that she literally can't stand up straight. She used to crawl down the landing to get to the bathroom. She's been hospitalised on more than one occasion. Her periods also lasted for an abnormal length of time - sometimes up to two weeks. As you can imagine, she can't afford to spend half of each month in bed, especially not with a husband and a child and a job to manage. Homeopathic and herbal remedies have already been tried. The Pill obviously hasn't 'cured' her problem, only stoppered it, but it's the best the doctor has been able to do in five years of treating her. It's not an ideal situation, but no sickness or disorder ever is. If your reasons for taking the Pill are not contraceptive then you aren't morally culpable.[/quote]
Have they figured out WHY this is going on? Or are they trying to? I think that's a big problem with the pill, they just give it out and ignore finding the cause, which can be just as destructive. I'm not saying she should or should not be on it, just that they really need to find out what's really going on so that they can fix the problem and not just the symptom.

[N/A Gone]

[quote name='Cathoholic Anonymous' post='1205936' date='Feb 28 2007, 06:19 PM']Catholic teaching does permit women to take the Pill for valid medical reasons. (Acne is not one of them.)
BCP also helped my sister to walk. Her periods are so terrible that she literally can't stand up straight. She used to crawl down the landing to get to the bathroom. She's been hospitalised on more than one occasion. Her periods also lasted for an abnormal length of time - sometimes up to two weeks. As you can imagine, she can't afford to spend half of each month in bed, especially not with a husband and a child and a job to manage. Homeopathic and herbal remedies have already been tried. The Pill obviously hasn't 'cured' her problem, only stoppered it, but it's the best the doctor has been able to do in five years of treating her. It's not an ideal situation, but no sickness or disorder ever is. If your reasons for taking the Pill are not contraceptive then you aren't morally culpable.[/quote]

Im gonna echo the above post. If your sister has that bad of periods then that is a symptom of something worse. All the doctor is doing is masking the pain, but there could be seriously complications with something else that is going undiscovered.

Medically that is where I would stand...

Now, I am not a priest, nor am I a militant, but I think if the issue was cured from the BCP then it would be ok, as long as it isnt for birth control. But with basic medical knowledge that is like having an itch and waiting to get hit by a car just in the right spot of the itch.

Prayers to your sister friend. My sister suffered from a long-time PID it can be very tough

[traichuoi]

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1205954' date='Feb 28 2007, 03:47 PM']I can also destroy a woman's sex drive, which is something all husbands should REALLY take into consideration.[/quote]

you can? woah

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[LouisvilleFan]

[quote name='Raphael' post='1205867' date='Feb 28 2007, 04:31 PM']During the trial stage for the pill, there was originally a male form as well as a female form. Males experienced slight testicular shrinkage and their product was discontinued. Three women died and their prescription was reduced.

Just some factoids for y'all. [/quote]

Where could find a reputable reference for this information? I'd like to have a source for information like this when I'm trying to convince others about the dangers of contraception.

Also, isn't there a male form of the pill coming out soon? I heard something about it a while back.

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='traichuoi' post='1206243' date='Mar 1 2007, 11:29 AM']you can? woah

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lol I TOLD dust he needs to increase and darken the print size!!!!!!

[cmotherofpirl]

I posted a story in Open mic about frogs changing from he frogs to she frogs as a result of all the estrogen in the water from women taking the pills. That combined with all the estrogen in plastic [ baby bottles come to mind] ...if its doing that to frogs, what do you think its doing to us?
Our rivers and streams and ground water is comtaminated with every drug people take. DE officials can estimate how many people are using coke just by checking the rivers and sewers.

[Didymus]

[quote name='Cathoholic Anonymous' post='1205936' date='Feb 28 2007, 06:19 PM']Catholic teaching does permit women to take the Pill for valid medical reasons. (Acne is not one of them.)[/quote]

i was saying catholic teaching aside. Most of the world doesnt care about catholic teaching. That's why I said that whenever someone brings that up - saying that it's ok because they are using it for an ok reason - I try to bring up the fact that it is deadly to the body, though not always to the soul.

[N/A Gone]

[quote]Catholic teaching does permit women to take the Pill for valid medical reasons. (Acne is not one of them.)[/quote]

Not to argue, but for the sake of clarity, where does it say this? can you site it please? also, what is a "valid" reason and what isnt? Im sure I can justifify something.

[prose]

It is medication. The Church does not specifically name medications. It is the intent that is the problem, not the pill itself.

But I think that the pill is often a band-aid and an easy fix for doctors who are too lazy to get to the root of the real problem.

[Thy Geekdom Come]

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1205954' date='Feb 28 2007, 07:47 PM']I can also destroy a woman's sex drive, which is something all husbands should REALLY take into consideration.[/quote]
Well then, all husbands should definitely keep their wives away from you.

[Thy Geekdom Come]

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1206261' date='Mar 1 2007, 12:06 PM']I posted a story in Open mic about frogs changing from he frogs to she frogs as a result of all the estrogen in the water from women taking the pills.[/quote]

Anyone else get reminded of Jurassic Park while reading this?

[xTrishaxLynnx]

[quote name='The Joey-O' post='1205610' date='Feb 27 2007, 09:41 PM']I agree, contraceptive, especially the pill, is wrong.

I'd like to hear people's opinion on what to do if a doctor attempts to perscibe birth control, say for painful periods or some other condition that they assume birth control is a cure-all for.[/quote]

If it's for painful periods, I would say "No, thanks. I'd rather deal with it." (and I have been offered the pill for this.)

I don't really trust doctors; at least not to the extent that most people do. Tons of people say "well my doctor said..." like that makes it some sort of infallible doctrine or something. Personally, if I do have a problem I can't deal with, I would rather talk to my chiropractor about it. Besides the fact that just getting an adjustment can help with tons of problems, she's given me so many natural remedies that have really helped. There is almost always a natural alternative.

I'm not saying that for some people the BCP isn't the only option at the time, but I think that if anything, it should only be used as a temporary relief of nearly impossible-to-deal-with symptoms while the cause and a better remedy for the problem are sought.

[quote name='Revprodeji' post='1205616' date='Feb 27 2007, 09:54 PM']Comparatively no. Antibiotics are used in extreme conditions, and their side effects (I assume you mean the killing of good bacteria) is handled in context[/quote]

When I did have to go on antibiotics for strep and pneumonia my chiropractor gave me a probiotic to help replace the good bacteria that would be killed.

[xTrishaxLynnx]

[quote name='Raphael' post='1206324' date='Mar 1 2007, 01:54 PM']Well then, all husbands should definitely keep their wives away from you.[/quote]



Cmom, they're never gonna let it go.

[MissScripture]

[quote name='xTrishaxLynnx' post='1206329' date='Mar 1 2007, 01:57 PM']If it's for painful periods, I would say "No, thanks. I'd rather deal with it." (and I have been offered the pill for this.)[/quote]
There again, it sounds like their not really looking for the root of the problem. And nothing is solved just by taking the pill. Masking the problem doesn't make it go away, and the pill fights against the body, rather than working with it.

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='xTrishaxLynnx' post='1206331' date='Mar 1 2007, 03:00 PM']

Cmom, they're never gonna let it go.[/quote]
[b]true, the boys have to play. If DUST had increased the font size or darkened it , maybe I could actually READ my posts and edit them.[/b]

[prose]

lol... I missed that too. I had to scroll up to see what you all were talking about