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More on President Bush's sins before God -

[url="http://www.prisonplanet.com/george_w_knight_of_eulogia_1.htm"]George W., Knight of Eulogia part 1[/url]
[url="http://www.prisonplanet.com/george_w_knight_of_eulogia_2.html"]George W., Knight of Eulogia part 2[/url]

Also Check this out - if you think President Bush doesn't have any sins to ask God for forgiveness for.

[url="http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-82095917705734983&q=Bohemian+Grove"]DARK SECRETS: INSIDE BOHEMIAN GROVE[/url]
[url="http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=2500924140588760933&q=Order+of+Death"]The Order of Death (Alex Jones)[/url]
[url="http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-7143092292184582857&q=American+Dictators"]American Dictators[/url]

For those who think we shouldn't be wary of President Bush because his Grandfather was involved in the Nazi's, I think all these should give you an appreciation that President Bush isn't Christian, and we should be Praying that God will really lay on his heart the sins he has committed and repent before the nation.

This isn't someone who is Democrat, left wing. I am pretty much in the exact middle when it comes to Right-wing conservative/Left-wing liberal, but I am an extreme Libertarian, and I just want the government to fess up to it's evil dealings and be judged by righteous judges!

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[quote name='Budge' post='1214988' date='Mar 17 2007, 02:21 PM']Only a Disinformationist would write reams about 9-11 and then add the crazy stuff added in here.[/quote]
If I am adding any inaccuracies, it is because I don't know everything. I'm not a Satanist Budge, and I know there is nothing I can do and say to prove that I am not.

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First off, I want to clarify my first post. I was speechless because of how ludicrous your assertions are not because I held any of them to be true.

[quote name='FullTruth' post='1214926' date='Mar 17 2007, 11:23 AM']Protocol would have been the moment there is a [b]possible attack[/b], and the first plane slamming into the First World Trade Center should have been considered a possible attack until investigations proved otherwise, on America's soil the Secret Service would have [b]immediately[/b], not 15 minutes later, taken the President out of his current location to take him to a secret location.

Because Protocol wasn't followed, one can only assume he knew of the attacks and knew he was safe. If he was going with the rouse, he would have immediately left the location to keep up the deception. He didn't.[/quote]

"Protocol."

And where did you read of this "protocol?" Can you substantiate any of your knowledge of "protocol?"

IMHO (and from what I have read and heard) they thought that the first plane hitting the towers was an accident, for they had received no notification of any hijacked planes being in the air. Furthermore, why would the Secret Service move the President to some other location which may or may not be secure (i.e.- the air!!!!) when they could hunker-down in the spot they were at while they get more information? It seems logical to assess the situation before you storm into/out of a location...or haven't we learned anything from the War in Iraq?

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[quote name='Budge' post='1214992' date='Mar 17 2007, 02:24 PM']:blink:[/quote]
What didn't you understand of that post?

They said there isn't a curse for a sinful parent. My Mother proves my point exactly, because her behaviour has always made things difficult for me in life, because people who don't even know me who know my mother automatically think I'm going to be similar to my mother.

So they ask me things that I wouldn't even think would have come out of their mouth had they not known my mother.

So if people think I could be like my mother because of the way she was, but I thank God I repented and came out of that spiritual family to follow after Jesus Christ, then so can George Bush inherit his Grand Father's sinful nature (not sin) if he doesn't repent.

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[quote]Ever been judged because people knew one of your parents?

I've been plenty of times because my mother is 'strange'. Demonically possessed would be a more accurate description.

While I was covering a story at a High School, the principal came up to me and after she said she knew my mother she asked me if I was going to write a positive article about the event. The Event was the 30-hour famine, so how can you not write a positive article about some teenagers who want help hungry children in the third world?

People immediately equate the sins of the parents onto their children, because how far can the acorn be from the tree.

So while I accept the sons will only be accounted for the sins they committed, the bible does say there is a generational curse, and that generation curse isn't parents killing their children, but Familiar Spirits who pass habits of the parents onto their children. That is why so many drug addicted teens have drug addicted parents, and alcoholic teens have alcoholic parents. The curse is passed from one generation to the next, until someone decides to put their foot down and come out from their family and live a pure and holy life before God through having faith in Jesus Christ and his death on the cross.[/quote][quote name='FullTruth' post='1215004' date='Mar 17 2007, 02:41 PM']
What didn't you understand of that post?

They said there isn't a curse for a sinful parent. My Mother proves my point exactly, because her behaviour has always made things difficult for me in life, because people who don't even know me who know my mother automatically think I'm going to be similar to my mother.

So they ask me things that I wouldn't even think would have come out of their mouth had they not known my mother.

So if people think I could be like my mother because of the way she was, but I thank God I repented and came out of that spiritual family to follow after Jesus Christ, then so can George Bush inherit his Grand Father's sinful nature (not sin) if he doesn't repent.[/quote]

The people who treated you badly and judged you because of your mother were wrong to do so. It was an unjust sin on their part. God certainly wouldn't do that to you! The Lord doesn't give people "the evil eye" or otherwise curse them because of their ancestry. I mean, He is God, not a witch. :unsure: I really don't think He sends "Familiar Spirits" to tempt children to sin for generations and generations. That sounds like something the Devil would do, not an act of the All Holy God.

On another note, the reason alcoholic parents tend to have alcoholic children can be traced to a number of factors, including genetics and the environment they were raised in. And there are a lot of people who have broken the familial cycle of addiction without being baptized or choosing Jesus.

I am glad that you have overcome the judgmental attitudes of people who viewed you as corrupt "because how far could the acorn be from the tree." But God never, ever thought about you that way, even before you gave your life to Him! :)

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[quote name='Maggie' post='1215010' date='Mar 17 2007, 03:42 PM']The people who treated you badly and judged you because of your mother were wrong to do so. It was an unjust sin on their part. God certainly wouldn't do that to you! The Lord doesn't give people "the evil eye" or otherwise curse them because of their ancestry. I mean, He is God, not a witch. :unsure: I really don't think He sends "Familiar Spirits" to tempt children to sin for generations and generations. That sounds like something the Devil would do, not an act of the All Holy God.

On another note, the reason alcoholic parents tend to have alcoholic children can be traced to a number of factors, including genetics and the environment they were raised in. And there are a lot of people who have broken the familial cycle of addiction without being baptized or choosing Jesus.

I am glad that you have overcome the judgmental attitudes of people who viewed you as corrupt "because how far could the acorn be from the tree." But God never, ever thought about you that way, even before you gave your life to Him! :)[/quote]
He doesn't send Familiar Spirits, they just attach themselves to your family, learn your weaknesses, and then tempt you with your weaknesses once and a while.

But I agree there is certain biological and environmental influences can lead to addictive behaviour as well. Familiar Spirits learn these through your behaviour, and then they keep you in a certain pattern through out your life, which is why they are called Familiar Spirits. That is until you decide, enough's enough. I will draw the line and I will never engage in those behaviours ever, ever again. It has happened to many people in the United Pentecostal Church. They go to the altar drunk, and then they come out of a prayer of repentance sober and never take a drink or do drugs again.

On your second statement, I might be misunderstanding you. I would say the reason Alcoholism and Drug Addiction is in that family is because they haven't been baptized and repented before the lord. Once you repent of your sins (I.e. addictions) and are baptized, God can deliever you from that family curse, and take your addiction from Alcohol or Drugs away from you. I would expect the curse to continue a 100 generations.

I have come far from the curses others may put on me from my mother's behaviour. I just wanted to use that as an example of why the sinful nature of President Bush's Grand Father can be transferred to President Bush, and it does have a biblical foundation.

One of the first things I totally found disgusting about George Bush is his willingness to pray in public. I would worship in public, and say the Lord Jesus Christ is my lord and saviour to another without hesitation, because Jesus Christ is my lord and saviour, but Praying in Public is something Christians shouldn't really accept.

[quote name='Matthew 6:4-6' date=' KJV']That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.

[b]And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.[/b]

But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.[/quote]

I don't think people should publically pray ever. There shouldn't be any acceptable time to pray where many see you, unless it is in the temple, and everybody is praying.

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So you would find prayer in schools, prayer before opening a legislative session, praying in a restaurant before meals offensive? I'm just wondering how far you carry this.

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[quote name='Maggie' post='1215010' date='Mar 17 2007, 03:42 PM']The people who treated you badly and judged you because of your mother were wrong to do so. It was an unjust sin on their part. God certainly wouldn't do that to you! The Lord doesn't give people "the evil eye" or otherwise curse them because of their ancestry. I mean, He is God, not a witch. :unsure: I really don't think He sends "Familiar Spirits" to tempt children to sin for generations and generations. That sounds like something the Devil would do, not an act of the All Holy God.

On another note, the reason alcoholic parents tend to have alcoholic children can be traced to a number of factors, including genetics and the environment they were raised in. And there are a lot of people who have broken the familial cycle of addiction without being baptized or choosing Jesus.

I am glad that you have overcome the judgmental attitudes of people who viewed you as corrupt "because how far could the acorn be from the tree." But God never, ever thought about you that way, even before you gave your life to Him! :)[/quote]
Although I agree with you that their judgement was an unjust sin, I will not hold it against them. They have no clue to who I am, or how the Lord has delievered me out of many of my families curses.

God doesn't send Familiar Spirits, they just attach themselves to your family, learn your weaknesses, and then tempt you with your weaknesses once and a while.

On your second statement, I might be misunderstanding you. I would say the reason Alcoholism and Drug Addiction is in that family is because they haven't been baptized and repented before the lord. Once you repent of your sins (I.e. addictions) and are baptized, God can deliever you from that family curse, and take your addiction from Alcohol or Drugs away from you. It has happened to many people in the United Pentecostal Church. They go to the altar drunk, and then they come out of a prayer of repentance sober and never take a drink again.

I have come far from the curses others may put on me from my mother's behaviour. First of all, I can keep a steady job, I've graduated College, amongst other things. My mother's curse has lead her to not keeping a steady job and being on welfare, not graduating college and many other things. I just wanted to use that as an example of why the sinful nature, not sins, of President Bush's Grand Father can be pasted to the current President, and it does have biblical foundation.

One of the first things I totally found disgusting about George Bush is his willingness to pray in public. I would worship in public, and say the Lord Jesus Christ is my lord and saviour to another without hesitation, because Jesus Christ is my lord and saviour, but Praying in Public is something Christians shouldn't really accept.

[quote name='Matthew 6:4-6' date=' KJV']That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.

[b]And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.[/b]

But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.[/quote]

I don't think people should publically pray ever. There shouldn't be any acceptable time to pray where many see you, unless it is in the temple, and everybody is praying.

If prayer is a publicity event, than it isn't a good thing.

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[quote name='Maggie' post='1215025' date='Mar 17 2007, 04:02 PM']So you would find prayer in schools, prayer before opening a legislative session, praying in a restaurant before meals offensive? I'm just wondering how far you carry this.[/quote]
I wouldn't find prayers in schools offensive, because if God is in the classroom atmosphere - and when two or three gather together in his name he will be in the midst - than God can create smarter children by being involved in their education.

Prayers before legislative session, I WOULD HOPE SO - because if God isn't involved in the political process, than things would degenerate quickly.

Praying in a restaurant before meals - you're actually praising God for his goodness of speaking the animals and plants you are about to eat into existance, so it isn't prayer, but worship which I am not against. We should be praising God for his goodness in public every single day.

PRAYERS ON NATIONAL TV - never! It's disgusting, and it is only a publicity event.

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[quote name='FullTruth' post='1215001' date='Mar 17 2007, 10:36 AM']If I am adding any inaccuracies, it is because I don't know everything. I'm not a Satanist Budge, and I know there is nothing I can do and say to prove that I am not.[/quote]

I wouldn't waste my time debating or talking to Budge. She thinks we are all satanists. :rolleyes:
We don't have to prove anything to her. She's not Yahweh. Yahweh will judge her actions and how she's
wrongly accused us of things which we are not.

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yeah, funny thing is, Budge has not said much... good thing though. Anywho this 9,11 thing is really out there. Where do you people find this stuff? I only spend my internet surfing time on Phatmass or certain traditional tune sites to learn more about my heritage... and there is always Zenit news agency... I usually burn time on Homestar Runner too... anywho my point is, its pretty interesting that all of this stuff culminated into such an accusation...

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[quote name='Sacred Music Man' post='1215185' date='Mar 17 2007, 08:18 PM']yeah, funny thing is, Budge has not said much... good thing though. Anywho this 9,11 thing is really out there. Where do you people find this stuff? I only spend my internet surfing time on Phatmass or certain traditional tune sites to learn more about my heritage... and there is always Zenit news agency... I usually burn time on Homestar Runner too... anywho my point is, its pretty interesting that all of this stuff culminated into such an accusation...[/quote]
I learned much of this stuff about 4-5 months ago through

[url="http://www.prisionplanet.com/"]http://www.prisionplanet.com/[/url]
[url="http://www.infowars.com/"]http://www.infowars.com/[/url]
[url="http://www.markdice.com/"]http://www.markdice.com/[/url]
and
[url="http://www.911essentials.com/"]http://www.911essentials.com/[/url]

Once you learn the ideas, you can then go onto the Internet.

It should not be surprising that over 1/2 of American's believe the American Government is withholding information concerning 9/11, and over 32 per cent believe that 9/11 is an inside job.

Want to know why I really don't trust President Bush. The day he declared war on Iraq, the spirit testified that we were taking a step closer to the Kingdom of the Anti-Christ. If President Bush had the same Holy Ghost that I had, then why was he taking a step closer to it?

I didn't know anything about Alex Jones or Mark Dice or the others back then, I only knew what the Spirit testified to me. As I started to find snipits of information here and there, I started to see some paraelles that others miss, and each piece of information just confirmed my initial reaction, President Bush is not a Christian and is not to be trusted.

What I am presenting here is 5 years of God's movement in my life, and my investigations into 9/11.

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[quote]It should not be surprising that over 1/2 of American's believe the American Government is withholding information concerning 9/11, and over 32 per cent believe that 9/11 is an inside job.[/quote]

1/2 of Americans cannot name Canada on a map. 1/3 of Americans wonder why Gilligan was never able to get off the island with so much media coverage.

So no its not that surprising.

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[quote name='Sacred Music Man' post='1215185' date='Mar 17 2007, 04:18 PM']Where do you people find this stuff? I only spend my internet surfing time on Phatmass or certain traditional tune sites to learn more about my heritage... and there is always Zenit news agency... I usually burn time on Homestar Runner too... anywho my point is, its pretty interesting that all of this stuff culminated into such an accusation...[/quote]

There's a really great documentary that you can either buy or watch for free on Google Video (Fixxxer's favorite (*sarcasm*). Anyway, it's called [b][i]Terror Storm[/b][/i] and is close to 2 hours long. It's definitely worth watching because it has so much proof. Also, it's not boring, so you won't be falling asleep in your chair. If you can make the extra time to view it, you'd learn quite a lot in a short amount of time.
I'll post the link on here just in case you're interested in watching the documentary.

[url="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4757274759497686216"]Terror Storm [/url]

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