Cloistered Nuns: Locked Behind The Grate

[Maggyie]

[quote name='Budge' post='1236745' date='Apr 9 2007, 09:08 PM']The Mormons have prayer and community too--close knit families...do you think it makes their religion more valid?

Buddhists too...and so forth and so on...[/quote]

It's true that false religions like the Church of Latter Day Saints and Buddhists have community and prayer... but Christian faith communities should too! And that's one thing that Catholicism has down pat (especially in the religious life)

[Thy Geekdom Come]

[quote name='Budge' post='1236745' date='Apr 9 2007, 07:08 PM']The Mormons have prayer and community too--close knit families...do you think it makes their religion more valid?

Buddhists too...and so forth and so on...[/quote]
You're right. I just think it's nice to see that you're acknowledging something good and true in Catholicism.

Anyway, no, I don't think it necessarily makes them more valid, although certainly it's one of the many things that should come with the true religion. Anyway, my point was that since you haven't proven Catholicism as invalid, it sounds like you've only just complimented us, so thanks.

[Guest T-Bone]

Once again, subtlety is wasted.

[TotusTuusMaria]

[quote name='Budge' post='1236745' date='Apr 9 2007, 08:08 PM']The Mormons have prayer and community too--close knit families...do you think it makes their religion more valid?

Buddhists too...and so forth and so on...[/quote]

Budge,

You failed to respond to the other half of that post.

He said that you never did show that Catholicism was a false religion, and you did not. You said you did, but you never did. If you would have shown us that then we all would have converted. You didn't even present that it was false because even if you would have did that we wouldn't have had a response for everything you said. And everyone here responded to every question you asked or every objection you put forth. Everything you had to say was refuted. You never did prove it was false. You simply said it was false. But you never proved it. Simply saying, "Catholicism is a false religion." does not prove that Catholicism is in fact a false religion.

J.M.J.

May God love you. Thank you for your prayers Budge, we'll be praying the same for you.

In Jesus and Mary,
Marie

[Budge]

[quote]Simply saying, "Catholicism is a false religion." does not prove that Catholicism is in fact a false religion.[/quote]

The inverse is true as well, simply saying Catholicism is true does not make it so.

[Thy Geekdom Come]

[quote name='Budge' post='1239792' date='Apr 12 2007, 08:56 AM']The inverse is true as well, simply saying Catholicism is true does not make it so.[/quote]
True, but we have shown repeatedly that Catholicism is the faith of Jesus Christ and you have not shown otherwise.

God bless,

Micah

[Budge]

Ive posted as much scripture as I can on this board.

I cant MAKE You "see" just plant seeds.

Jhn 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

[Guest T-Bone]

Budge-

You are the one rejected the bride of Christ, the one true Church. I urge you to reject your prideful ways, humble yourself, and come home.

[Budge]

You mean well but sorry its not going to happen...

I'm already in the ekkelsia and thats where I should be.

[Socrates]

[quote name='Budge' post='1240518' date='Apr 12 2007, 07:52 PM']You mean well but sorry its not going to happen...

I'm already in the ekkelsia and thats where I should be.[/quote]
"Ekkelsia" - now is that one of them big, fancy, highfallootin' Greek words Bible-beleivin' Christians is supposed to reject as "vain Babble"?

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='Budge' post='1240424' date='Apr 12 2007, 08:10 PM']Ive posted as much scripture as I can on this board.

I cant MAKE You "see" just plant seeds.

Jhn 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.[/quote]
lol, even the devil quotes scripture....

[Budge]

[quote]"Ekkelsia" - now is that one of them big, fancy, highfallootin' Greek words Bible-beleivin' Christians is supposed to reject as "vain Babble"? rolleyes.gif[/quote]

Its actually in the BIble... and it isnt a made up word with the MYSTICAL attached...
{Imagine that!}

[Socrates]

[quote name='Budge' post='1240541' date='Apr 12 2007, 08:10 PM']Its actually in the BIble... and it isnt a made up word with the MYSTICAL attached...
{Imagine that!}

[/quote]
So we're not allowed to use any words not in the Bible?

Where's it say that in the Bible?

[Thy Geekdom Come]

[quote name='Budge' post='1240424' date='Apr 12 2007, 06:10 PM']Ive posted as much scripture as I can on this board.

I cant MAKE You "see" just plant seeds.

Jhn 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.[/quote]

Budge, claiming that we're just being stubborn against the overwhelming force of your arguments and then quoting a Scripture that could just as easily apply to you is nothing more than keeping your mind closed to significant and meaningful arguments against you. The first sign of falsehood is that you defend it by accusing the other person rather than by addressing objections.

[quote name='Budge' post='1240518' date='Apr 12 2007, 07:52 PM']You mean well but sorry its not going to happen...

I'm already in the ekkelsia and thats where I should be.[/quote]

Good, then since you've been called out, maybe you can call us out by answering our objections instead of dodging them.

[quote name='Budge' post='1240541' date='Apr 12 2007, 08:10 PM']Its actually in the BIble... and it isnt a made up word with the MYSTICAL attached...
{Imagine that!}

[/quote]

Anamnesis is not a made up word. It's the word used in the original Greek of the Gospel of Luke, chapter 22, verse 19:

"kai labon arton eucaristhsas eklasen kai edoken autois legon, touto estin to soma mou to uper umon didomenon: touto poieite eis ten emen [b]anamnesin[/b]"

So, it's also actually in the Bible.

God bless,

Micah

[Budge]

You LEFT MYSTICAL out...

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='Budge' post='1241338' date='Apr 13 2007, 10:24 AM']You LEFT MYSTICAL out...

[/quote]
thats called an adjective.....

[Thy Geekdom Come]

[quote name='Budge' post='1241338' date='Apr 13 2007, 08:24 AM']You LEFT MYSTICAL out...

[/quote]
Do I need to read your sentence back to you? You said made-up words with the word mystical attached. That means that the word mystical is attached to (anamnesis) you called made up. Don't try to shift focus. It's not made up. It's in the Bible just as much as ekklesia is in the Bible.

Mystical is an adjective we use to help clarify what we mean by anamnesis.

God bless,

Micah

[Budge]

[quote]364. anamnesis
Search for G364 in KJVSL
anamnhsiV anamnesis an-am'-nay-sis

from 363; recollection:--remembrance (again).

See Greek 363[/quote]

I was wrong to say the word itself was made up...{should have been more specific, in what I meant}

but the phrase mystical anamnesis, is DEFINITELY made up and the meaning even has been changed.

There it is an REMEMBERANCE.

They used it to make excuses for transubstiation.

[Thy Geekdom Come]

[quote name='Budge' post='1243123' date='Apr 14 2007, 04:26 PM']I was wrong to say the word itself was made up...{should have been more specific, in what I meant}

but the phrase mystical anamnesis, is DEFINITELY made up and the meaning even has been changed.

There it is an REMEMBERANCE.

They used it to make excuses for transubstiation.[/quote]
Transubstantiation is related to anamnesis, but they are not the same thing.

Anyway, as I've said, "mystical" is only added to the word "anamnesis" to help clarify it, not to confuse people. Anamnesis can mean a simple remembrance, but the nuance of it in ancient Greek was more than simple rememberence, but rather a sort of re-presentation in which someone could cooperate.

[Budge]

[quote]Transubstantiation is related to anamnesis, but they are not the same thing.

Anyway, as I've said, "mystical" is only added to the word "anamnesis" to help clarify it, not to confuse people. Anamnesis can mean a simple remembrance, but the nuance of it in ancient Greek was more than simple rememberence, but rather a sort of re-presentation in which someone could cooperate.[/quote]

My BIble Greek translator translates it as just rememberance and that translator gets very specific listing more then one word for definitions in many cases.

Do you have anything to back up that "nuance" a link you can show me from a NON-Catholic translation of the Greek?

As for clarifying things by adding MYSTICAL in front of them, come on the New Agers can make hash of the English language by overuse of that word.