dairygirl4u2c Posted March 28, 2007 Author Posted March 28, 2007 why didn't you vote for slothful actions, or anything relating to the seven sins?
Anomaly Posted March 29, 2007 Posted March 29, 2007 [quote]Being non-Christian should also be against the law as follows from the Syllabus. QUOTE The Syllabus of Errors condemned by Pope Bl. Pius IX: 77. In the present day it is no longer expedient that the Catholic religion should be held as the only religion of the State, to the exclusion of all other forms of worship. -- Allocution "Nemo vestrum," July 26, 1855. 78. Hence it has been wisely decided by law, in some Catholic countries, that persons coming to reside therein shall enjoy the public exercise of their own peculiar worship. -- Allocution "Acerbissimum," Sept. 27, 1852. 79. Moreover, it is false that the civil liberty of every form of worship, and the full power, given to all, of overtly and publicly manifesting any opinions whatsoever and thoughts, conduce more easily to corrupt the morals and minds of the people, and to propagate the pest of indifferentism. -- Allocution "Nunquam fore," Dec. 15, 1856. [/quote]How does that work with the current Catholic Catechism: [quote]1738 Freedom is exercised in relationships between human beings. Every human person, created in the image of God, has the natural right to be recognized as a free and responsible being. All owe to each other this duty of respect. The right to the exercise of freedom, especially in moral and religious matters, is an inalienable requirement of the dignity of the human person. This right must be recognized and protected by civil authority within the limits of the common good and public order.32[/quote] Has the Catholic Church just contradicted itself?
Pontifite 7 of 10 Posted March 29, 2007 Posted March 29, 2007 I voted for the ones that I knew what they meant, but know that I think about it I wish all sins were out-lawed. The only thing you really couldn't do is banning non-christions. You can't force someone to think like you do.
Resurrexi Posted March 30, 2007 Posted March 30, 2007 (edited) [quote]why didn't you vote for slothful actions, or anything relating to the seven sins?[/quote]I'll give you a quote from the Catechism rather than saying so myself... [quote][b]The Catechism of St. Pius X, On Virtues and Vices, The Vices and Other Very Grievous Sins[/b] 1 Q. What is a vice? A. A vice is an evil disposition of the mind to shirk good and do evil, arising from the frequent repetition of evil acts. 2 Q. What difference is there between a sin and a vice? A. Between sin and vice there is this difference that sin is a passing act, whereas vice is a bad habit, contracted by continually falling into some sin. 3 Q. Which are the vices called capital? A. The vices called capital are seven: Pride, Covetousness, Lust, Anger, Gluttony, Envy and Sloth. 4 Q. How are the capital vices conquered? A. The capital vices are conquered by the exercise of the opposite virtues: Thus Pride is conquered by humility; Covetousness by liberality; Lust by chastity; Anger by patience; Gluttony by abstinence; Envy by brotherly love; Sloth by diligence and fervour in the service of God. 5 Q. Why are these vices called capital? A. They are called capital because they are the head and fount of many other vices and sins. [i]Source: The Catechism of Pope Saint Pius X, (Gladysdale, 1993), p. 173[/i][/quote] [quote]I voted for the ones that I knew what they meant, but know that I think about it I wish all sins were out-lawed. The only thing you really couldn't do is banning non-christions. You can't force someone to think like you do.[/quote] ...but you can forbid non-Catholics from publicly exercising their peculiar form of worship. Edited March 30, 2007 by StThomasMore
dairygirl4u2c Posted April 3, 2007 Author Posted April 3, 2007 yes st. tom. all these others who call them catholics are really just liberals masquerading as conservatives. otherwise, they'd be for banning non-christians and non-procreative sex acts and condoms etc.. either that, or catholics can't figure out what's required and what's open for interpretation to be banned. probably the later, given that your quotes don't mention anything about the necessity of banning sins of every sort as you suggest.
Lena Posted April 3, 2007 Posted April 3, 2007 How can you "ban sin"? If there is no sin, or evil, you won't have "good"..and we'd all be "perfect" but we aren't, and never will be as long as free will is involved. Anyway, I didn't know what to poll. It's pretty moot anyway---for example, how the heck can masturbation be banned? Oy, totalitarian society here we come.
Totus Tuus Posted April 8, 2007 Posted April 8, 2007 I would really have to think about this one before I answer. It's good food for thought; I'm glad you brought it up, dairygirl.
Totus Tuus Posted April 8, 2007 Posted April 8, 2007 [quote name='Socrates' post='1220151' date='Mar 26 2007, 10:46 PM']"Natural law" simply means the law which can be known through natural reason alone (as opposed to revealed religion).[/quote] I was confused about what she meant by "natural law" as well. [i]Sins against[/i] natural law is what I was thinking she meant, but I wasn't sure.
Proud2BCatholic139 Posted April 8, 2007 Posted April 8, 2007 Why and how could we ban sin? We are not God and we will lose our inheritance to Heaven. One that would making us God, which we are not, and that is breaking the first commandment.
Jesus_lol Posted April 9, 2007 Posted April 9, 2007 i really do hope that the last option was actually a joke. excessive speeding is also already against the law. though really the states should raise the limit. 55 is just stupidly slow
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