"anti-war Protest" Organizers Are Anti-american... And Losin

[Lounge Daddy]

I posted this at my blog. I assumed this was pretty clear. Am I wrong?

#1 - The March 17th demonstrations (and many others like it) were organized by ANSWER

#2 - ANSWER is an organization that defends Nazis, dictators, and other fungus - but calls the USA the enemy of the world

#3 - you would think that people who want peace would NOT rally behind a group that promotes an ideology that brought the death to billions of people in the past century, wouldn't you?

yet, the reaction so far at my blog has been "what???" "I don't get it?" "the media huh???" and my favorite "you mean ALL people who don't agree with the US in Iraq are commies!"

[b]FIRST[/b] - please post something at my blog that people can read and say "I get it!" ([url="http://loungedaddy.blogspot.com/2007/03/recent-march-in-washington-part-2.html"]LINK TO IT HERE[/url])

[b]SECOND[/b] - I can't wait to read on this thread posts from people who defend Jihad and the laft and ANSWER and CAIR so I can come back at them because, dammit I have been away for sooooo long!

Also - any one else notice that we are losing Germany in the war?
Germany of all countries! The one country that should know better!

[hoosieranna]

Honest question, not an attack or anything:
Do you think that all who didn't support the invasion of Iraq are anti-American? I'm trying to be very specific and only refer to the Iraqi invasion. I'm not bringing anything else-weird protest organizers, Muslim organizations, other countries-nothing, into the question. I whole-heartedly support our troops. They ARE the ones that protect my freedom to question and learn. I support the troops, if not this particular invasion (again, only Iraq). I'm not denying that Hussein was a sadistic thing I can't repeat here for fear of getting edited. Please don't jump down my throat. I tried to be very, very specific.

Edited March 27, 2007 by Nadezhda

[FullTruth]

[quote name='Nadezhda' post='1220297' date='Mar 27 2007, 02:49 AM']Honest question, not an attack or anything:
Do you think that all who didn't support the invasion of Iraq are anti-American? I'm trying to be very specific and only refer to the Iraqi invasion. I'm not bringing anything else-weird protest organizers, Muslim organizations, other countries-nothing, into the question. I whole-heartedly support our troops. They ARE the ones that protect my freedom to question and learn. I support the troops, if not this particular invasion (again, only Iraq). I'm not denying that Hussein was a sadistic thing I can't repeat here for fear of getting edited. Please don't jump down my throat. I tried to be very, very specific.[/quote]
I'm going to echo Nadezhda words here, and a little sterner.

I do not support the war.

The Organization Answer, who supports the Nazis, who also doesn't support the war in Iraq is probably a ploy from the Elite, to convice people llike you people who are against the war are Anti-Patriots.

I weep for the solidiers in Iraq, when I think about them, for they are pawns in a much greater struggle for dominance. They don't even know it. This war isn't for oil, it's for dominance over the human race, and the real combatants of this war - and I'm one of them - get to determine who wins and who loses. It is not the soliders in Iraq which will save us from terror. It is spiritual prayer warriors for Jesus Christ who save us from terror by taking back human dominance over our world, for the glory of God.

The same goes for the soldiers of WW1 and WW2, because they were pawns in that struggle. Millions of men and women died because of the ancient struggle between the serpent and his seed against humanity.

Call me weird if you want, but this is the entire nature of the conflict we are in.

[Thy Geekdom Come]

[quote name='Nadezhda' post='1220297' date='Mar 27 2007, 12:49 AM']Honest question, not an attack or anything:
Do you think that all who didn't support the invasion of Iraq are anti-American? I'm trying to be very specific and only refer to the Iraqi invasion. I'm not bringing anything else-weird protest organizers, Muslim organizations, other countries-nothing, into the question. I whole-heartedly support our troops. They ARE the ones that protect my freedom to question and learn. I support the troops, if not this particular invasion (again, only Iraq). I'm not denying that Hussein was a sadistic thing I can't repeat here for fear of getting edited. Please don't jump down my throat. I tried to be very, very specific.[/quote]
I don't speak for Lounge Daddy, but anyone who is against the war because they don't believe it's what's best for America is pro-American, at least in intention. I used to support the war, but I don't anymore, because in light of certain things we could only know by hindsight, I don't think it's a just war. However, I support our troops, I want them to come back home alive and well, and I am proud that they have chosen to serve their country.

[Budge]

I agree about ANSWER, but THERE are CONSERVATIVES who have long since realized this war was about NWO profits rather then any real defense of America and it has been turned into a quagmire.

Im sorry but unloading BILLIONS of dollars overseas in a dirt bowl and killing 100,000s civilians and decimating our army wearing them out via repeated tours, has done NOTHING for AMERICA, but its made them LOTS OF MONEY!

I never supported the Iraq war.

[Thy Geekdom Come]

[quote name='Budge' post='1220441' date='Mar 27 2007, 09:36 AM']I agree about ANSWER, but THERE are CONSERVATIVES who have long since realized this war was about NWO profits rather then any real defense of America and it has been turned into a quagmire.

Im sorry but unloading BILLIONS of dollars overseas in a dirt bowl and killing 100,000s civilians and decimating our army wearing them out via repeated tours, has done NOTHING for AMERICA, but its made them LOTS OF MONEY!

I never supported the Iraq war.[/quote]
Who's gotten lots of money? Certainly not the US government. Certainly not the US citizens. Perhaps defense contractors...

I think your "NWO" theories are silly. There have always been and will always be, until the end of time, people trying to take complete control.

I think you should let it go. It's not the Church, despite your repeated claims, because even though "new world order" can mean something bad, that doesn't mean that every occasion of the term is bad.

God bless,

Micah

[Lounge Daddy]

[quote name='Nadezhda' post='1220297' date='Mar 27 2007, 01:49 AM']Honest question, not an attack or anything:
Do you think that all who didn't support the invasion of Iraq are anti-American?[/quote]

Of course not.
And I love you.

[Lounge Daddy]

[quote name='FullTruth' post='1220423' date='Mar 27 2007, 09:54 AM']I'm going to echo Nadezhda words here, and a little sterner.

I do not support the war.

The Organization Answer, who supports the Nazis, who also doesn't support the war in Iraq is probably a ploy from the Elite, to convice people llike you people who are against the war are Anti-Patriots.[/quote]

Mmmm... interesting conspiracy theory. So the founder of ANSWER - Ramsey Clark, who was a far left Democrat, is really working for President Bush? Is that what you are assuming?
The Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy has quite a long reach

[hoosieranna]

[quote name='Lounge Daddy' post='1220486' date='Mar 27 2007, 12:07 PM']Of course not.
And I love you.[/quote]


Aww, thanks! I love you too!

Edited March 27, 2007 by Nadezhda

[Mateo el Feo]

I don't mean to divert the conversation, but everyone is talking about ANSWER supporting NAZIs, which doesn't make any sense to me.

Could anyone provide a citation that would demonstrate this connection?

[Lounge Daddy]

Oh. Not just Nazis - they also support commies, jihadists, murderous dictators, terrorists, and other scum.

Think of it as an "enemy of my enemy is my friend" doctrine. Anyone who wishes to crush Democracies, and alter the West is aided by Ramsey Clark and his group ANSWER

The founder of ANSWER is Ramsey Clark, US Attorney General under President LB Johnson, unsuccessfully ran as the Democrat's candidate for New York Senate seat twice.

After this he went on to work for NAZIS, Dictators, terrorists, and other fungus - providing legal council, etc...
Including Nazi concentration camp commandant Karl Linnas, Nazi War criminal Jack Reimer, as well as other interesting notables such as the PLO, Slobodan Milošević, and Saddam Hussein

During this time he formed the organization [b]International Action Center[/b], an activist arm to aid him in his anti-American vision. So that while he gives legal technical advice and representation to these monsters, his activist group can work to push public opinion in a favorable direction.

Ramsey Clark's IAC publicly states that they oppose any and all use of the US military. They oppose us defending ourselves from the people they actively support. Needless to say the same goes for Great Briton and Israel.
The Ramsey Clark and his IAC friends formed [b]ANSWER[/b] within three days of the 9/11 attacks to specifically to oppose any and all attempts at the US defending itself, and build public sympathy for our enemies.

Because ANSWER is pretty made up of the same people belonging to the IAC, World Workers Party (communists), and The Party for Socialism and Liberation (Marxist-Leninists) they are against the USA, Great Briton, and not only oppose Israel but are hostile to Jews themselves - even Jews who openly criticize the war.

Edited March 27, 2007 by Lounge Daddy

[FullTruth]

[quote name='Lounge Daddy' post='1220492' date='Mar 27 2007, 02:11 PM']Mmmm... interesting conspiracy theory. So the founder of ANSWER - Ramsey Clark, who was a far left Democrat, is really working for President Bush? Is that what you are assuming?
The Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy has quite a long reach [/quote]
No Lounge Daddy.

The real conflict isn't between party differences, isn't between Christianity and Muslims, isn't for oil, isn't anything else but the first prophecy of the Bible.

[quote name='Genesis 3:15' date=' JPS']And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; they shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise their heel.'[/quote]

The real conflict is between Humanity and the Devil and his seed. The Devil and his seed will always continue to try to rule over humanity, and believers like me are fighting that ancient warfare against them. We, the believers, get to decide when this war on terror stops because we will put the serpent and his seed on the run.

[Mateo el Feo]

[quote name='Lounge Daddy' post='1220731' date='Mar 27 2007, 07:54 PM']Oh. Not just Nazis - they also support commies, jihadists, murderous dictators, terrorists, and other scum.

Think of it as an "enemy of my enemy is my friend" doctrine. Anyone who wishes to crush Democracies, and alter the West is aided by Ramsey Clark and his group ANSWER

The founder of ANSWER is Ramsey Clark, US Attorney General under President LB Johnson, unsuccessfully ran as the Democrat's candidate for New York Senate seat twice.

After this he went on to work for NAZIS, Dictators, terrorists, and other fungus - providing legal council, etc...
Including Nazi concentration camp commandant Karl Linnas, Nazi War criminal Jack Reimer, as well as other interesting notables such as the PLO, Slobodan Milošević, and Saddam Hussein

Because ANSWER is pretty made up of the same people belonging to the IAC, World Workers Party (communists), and The Party for Socialism and Liberation (Marxist-Leninists) they are against the USA, Great Briton, and not only oppose Israel but are hostile to Jews themselves - even Jews who openly criticize the war.[/quote]OK, I see where you're coming from. I still don't think I would make the leap from Clark legally representing a Nazi to the claim that ANSWER is sympathetic with the Nazi cause. I think he was just playing the role of a money-hungry lawyer. The biggest issue I have is that radical left-wing organizations (e.g. ANSWER, communists, anarchists, etc) are so diametrically opposed to Nazism, which is a right-wing beast. I can't see them as being allies...too much bad blood.

[jeffpugh]

Our struggle "is not against flesh and blood but Principalities and Powers"

keep those words in mind my friends.

[Urib2007]

[size=3][color="#000000"]The 9/11 lie is in critical condition[/color][/size]

March 25, 2007
J. Plummer

[b][i]There was a time, not long ago, when daring to question the official account of 9/11 was risky business. One was almost guaranteed to be attacked as a "crazy person" or a "traitor" or a "terrorist sympathizer." Times have changed. At this point, less than 20% of the population believes they were given the full truth regarding 9/11 . Logically one might ask: "Why is that?"
[/i][/b]

It wasn't for lack of trying that the government failed in its propaganda campaign. It wasn't for lack of "helping hands" in the mainstream media. (Though even that support has begun to fall apart.) No, it was one thing and one thing only that caused hundreds of millions of American citizens to openly question the official account of 9/11; the evidence.

In short, the evidence that we have been shamelessly lied to regarding the events of 9/11 is irrefutable. There is an enormous body of circumstantial evidence, there is an enormous body of physical evidence, and there is an enormous body of historical evidence. Perhaps most damning (at this point) is the ongoing cover up itself. -The deliberate attempt to obstruct an open discussion of the facts. Evidence of that grows by the hour, but not to worry...

[b]If you want to see how the investigation into the attacks of 9/11 was obstructed at every turn; simply watch 9/11 Press for Truth.[/b]

[b]If you want to learn the history of government sponsored " false flag " terrorism, simply watch [url="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7048572757566726569"]TERROR STORM[/url].

If you want to see the evidence of controlled demolition (all of which has been completely ignored by the mainstream media and government talking heads) check out September 11 Revisited , or this segment of 911 Mysteries , or this segment from Rise of the Police State .
[/b]
If you want to know what an absolute fraud the "investigation" we finally got was, you can get started with just a handful of issues. Like:

[b][color="#000000"]1. One of the most damning pieces of physical evidence regarding the events of 9/11 (the collapse of WTC 7) wasn't even mentioned in the 9/11 Commission Report. How could any report claiming to provide "the fullest possible account" of the events of 9/11 ignore the unexpected free-fall collapse of a 47 story office tower ? Is it because, to this day, nobody can explain how it fell? Is it because it wasn't struck by any planes or burned with any jet fuel (the magic formula that supposedly brought down the twin towers?) Is it because pools of molten metal remained in its basement for weeks and partially evaporated steel beams were found in its wreckage? (It is physically impossible for burning office materials and diesel fuel to liquefy structural steel; let alone evaporate it into a gas.) How did "The Commission" deal with these smoking gun issues that clearly contradict the official account? Simple; they ignored them.

2. How about those towers? You know, the two 110 story buildings constructed with an outer shell of perimeter columns and an ENORMOUS inner array of core columns that supported the buildings' vertical loads. Of those towers, the commission report claimed " exterior walls bore most of the weight of the building. The interior core of the buildings was a hollow steel shaft ." This is an inexcusable inaccuracy that any "investigator" with an Internet connection and 5 minutes can easily prove wrong. And it should be noted; any claim or "theory" of how the towers collapsed based on this erroneous "hollow shaft" model is fatally flawed. Who in their right mind can take an "official report" like this seriously? If they got something this simple wrong, what else did they miss?

3. Lets not forget "The Commission" said there was " no credible evidence that any person in the United States gave the hijackers substantial financial assistance. Similarly, we have seen no evidence that any foreign government-or foreign government official-supplied any funding ." Hmm, interesting. How about the Pakistani ISI chief who wired $100,000 to the alleged "lead hijacker" Mohamed Atta? Indian intelligence has verified this . And there has been no evidence to refute it. Is that worth looking into? -And how about Sibel Edmonds? Why was she ignored and then gagged under the veil of "National Security." Better yet, how about we just have her testify in open hearings about "money trails" and where they lead to in our government?

And if all this isn't enough, maybe the few remaining skeptics would like to hear from some Senior Military, Intelligence, Law Enforcement, and Government Officials who question the validity of the 9/11 Commission Report. No problem. Start here.

-So it's true. Times have changed and the people (for good reason) no longer believe the lies they've been fed about 9/11. We've woken up to the level of corruption in our government and the official lie (by all practical means of determination) is in critical condition and not expected to recover.

This can only mean one thing. An Independent investigation into the attacks of 9/11 WILL BE conducted. And this time, it isn't going to be handful of citizens asking questions and demanding answers; it's going to be 80% of the country. And this time, you won't so easily ignore and whitewash the sensitive issues, because an educated citizenry is not so easily fooled. And this time, those who have stonewalled, lied, manipulated, covered up and acted in a criminally negligent manner will be held accountable for their actions.

To those in power who've forgotten the reality of their position in government, YOU SERVE AT THE PLEASURE OF THE CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Once again, you're on notice to stop ignoring our demands for a new investigation. This issue isn't going to go away, and your refusal to address it will cost you dearly.

And to those of you with something to hide; perhaps now would be a good time to "lawyer up" and "cut a deal." The game is over.[/color][/b]

[Urib2007]

[quote name='Lounge Daddy' post='1220252' date='Mar 26 2007, 09:57 PM'][b]SECOND[/b] - I can't wait to read on this thread posts from people who defend Jihad and the laft and ANSWER and CAIR so I can come back at them because, dammit I have been away for sooooo long![/quote]

Interesting name you've got there: [i]Evil Conservative[/i]... Americans who don't support the war on "terror" are NOT Anti American. Seriously, dude. You obviously need to educate yourself a bit more regarding 9/11 and don't turn to Fox News for your source of information.

Like most journalists and fair individuals, why don't you research the claims that the 9/11 Truth Movement have made and then you'll see that we're not defending Al-[i]CIA[/i]DA. [b]The government had prior knowledge to the attacks on 9/11.
[/b]

1. Explain Bin Laden's Family link to the Bush family.... In summer 1971, Osama and Salem Bin Laden enjoyed a holiday in Sweden with some of their 55 brothers and sisters. Salen went on to become a business partner of the man who is leading the hunt for his brother. In the 1970's, he and George W. Bush were founders of the Arbusto Energy....

2. The CIA created Bin Laden - The CIA used Bin Laden to attack the Serbs in the late 1990's. Bin Laden's code name was Tim Osmond in the CIA.

3. Are you going to call the family's who lost their loved ones on 9/11 "supporters of Jihad" because they are against the war in Iraq? The huge 9/11 Truth Movement is made up of hundreds of the victim's families.

4. Why were some public officials warned not to fly to New York on the morning of 9/11. John Ashcroft was warned. Mayor Willie Brown was warned. [i]Newsweek[/i] reported that a group of top Pentagon officials suddenly canceled travel plans for the morning of September 11, apparently because of security reasons. Author Salman Rushdie was warned by the Federal Aviation Authority not to fly on 9/11. Still the average American is still kept in the dark because it hasn't made the nightly newscast.

5. Why did NORAD stand down for the first time in its 50 year history?

6. Bin Laden Family Evacuated -- Two dozen members of Osama Bin Laden's family were urgently evacuated from the US in the first days following the terrorist attacks on New York and Washington, according to the Saudi ambassador to Washington. Over 160 members were flown out of the country to Saudi Arabia!
What's wrong with this picture?

7. At end of the 3 week Afghan War, 8,000 Taliban and Al-Qaeda members were flown to Pakistan for safety. It had been their job to start up the crisis in Afghanistan. The government admits that they flew them out to safety.

8. Bin Laden met with the CIA section chief for 10 days in July 2001. Why was the CIA meeting with Bin Laden at the hospital?

[Budge]

[quote]Perhaps defense contractors...[/quote]Now take that thought further...Halliburton etc.
[quote]
I think your "NWO" theories are silly. There have always been and will always be, until the end of time, people trying to take complete control.[/quote]

So if you think there are people trying to take control why is the NWO so hard to beleive?
[quote]
I think you should let it go. It's not the Church, despite your repeated claims, because even though "new world order" can mean something bad, that doesn't mean that every occasion of the term is bad.[/quote]The Popes call for a NWO constantly and are aligned with the globalist elites via the UN.
Pope calls for a new world order
[quote]
Thursday, January 1, 2004 Posted: 1421 GMT (10:21 PM HKT)


VATICAN CITY (AP) -- Pope John Paul II rang in the New Year on Thursday with a renewed call for peace in the Middle East and Africa and the creation of a new world order based on respect for the dignity of man and equality among nations.

John Paul presided over a morning Mass inside St. Peter's Basilica to mark the World Day of Peace, which the Roman Catholic Church celebrates every January 1. He appeared in good form, delivering his entire homily in a strong and clear voice despite a relatively tiring holiday schedule.

This year, John Paul directed his thoughts to continuing conflicts around the globe. But he stressed that to bring about peace, there needs to be a new respect for international law and the creation of a "new international order" based on the goals of the United Nations.

He called for "an order that is able to give adequate solutions to today's problems based on the dignity of the human being, on an integral development of society, on solidarity among nations rich and poor, on the sharing of resources and the extraordinary results of scientific and technical progress."

The pope lamented continuing violence between Israel and the Palestinians, and also offered his prayers for his ambassador to Burundi, Archbishop Michael Courtney, who was gunned down by assailants this week as he returned from a funeral.

John Paul said Courtney was killed "while he carried out his mission in favor of dialogue and reconciliation" in the central African country, which has been wracked by violence for a decade.

"Let us pray for him, hoping that his example and sacrifice will bring about the fruits of peace in Burundi and the world," he said.

Earlier this month, John Paul issued a formal document marking the World Day of Peace in which he called for a reform of the United Nations and international law to deal with the evolving threat of terrorism.

He said a new respect for international law was the only way to achieve peace and guarantee against the arbitrary use of force. He did not mention the United States by name, but his message appeared aimed at the U.S. anti-terrorism campaign—and in particular at Washington's pre-emptive war in Iraq, which was launched without the specific authorization of the United Nations.

John Paul was a vocal critic of the Iraq war, dispatching envoys to Washington and Baghdad to try to prevent hostilities from breaking out and exhorting world leaders that war was not inevitable and was "always a defeat for humanity."

"Because peace is possible ... it is necessary," he said during his homily Thursday.

The New Year's Mass was the last major celebration of the Christmas season for John Paul, who is 83 and suffers from Parkinson's disease, which makes it difficult for him to speak, as well as knee and hip ailments that make it almost impossible for him to walk or stand.

He cut back some of his holiday activities and scrapped two traditional papal events—the ordination of bishops January 6 and baptisms on January 11.

But throughout the Christmas season, he has appeared far stronger than during the series of celebrations in October marking his 25th anniversary as pope. Then, he was unable to deliver many of his homilies and had to have others to read them on his behalf.[/quote]

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[Mateo el Feo]

[quote name='Urib2007' post='1221099' date='Mar 28 2007, 10:59 AM'][img]http://www.informationliberation.com/files/cnnpoll9112.JPG[/img][/quote]"This QuickVote is not scientific and reflects the opinions of only those internet users who have chosen to participate...maybe this poll is another victim of "media jihad"? LOL

[FullTruth]

There is a NWO being created by the Elites which are a bunch of Sicko Nutjobs who control the world bank, the international banks, and all national banks. They want to create economic stranglehold on all of humanity because it pleases them to see young children in Africa and other third world countries to be sickly and die on a daily basis. Just like the days of Noah, these elites have only one kind of imagination, that is evil continually. They want to create the same conditiions here in North America as well, and they are making plans to create that kind of instablity here.

They elites hate us, because there is an emnity between us and them, and we will be in a war against them until Jesus Christ returns and throws the Anti-Christ into the burning lake of fire, freeing us forever from those sicko nutjobs. Praise God.

That is what this is all about.

Answer is controlled by these Sicko Nutjobs. So is President Bush. So it is not President Bush who is controlling Answer, but the Illuminati, the organization which controls him, that is controlling Answer as well. These Sicko Nutjobs created the first kind of sleeper cells, because each of these groups/individuals really don't know they are on the same team.

If you think President Bush is the most powerful man alive, you are sadly mistaken.

[img]http://thebiggestsecretpict.online.fr/nwo/Illuminati_pyramid_structure.jpg[/img]

Edited March 29, 2007 by FullTruth