Jackpot!

[be_thou_my_vision]

Okay, then I would like to move this to the debate section...

[stlmom]

Jenny, first of all, thanks for starting this thread in the first place. You contributed a useful resource. Yes, some of the links include orders whose reforms have gone flat. The natural consequences to them will be that their survival as a community will fade over time. We're already seeing this happen. The need of "exposing the truth", as stated in another's post, is unnecessary and unproductive here, and does not fit with the focus of VS. A few of you on this phorum need to get a life.

[Maggyie]

[quote]A few of you on this phorum need to get a life.[/quote]

Ouch!

[EJames]

[quote name='Veritas' post='1253536' date='Apr 22 2007, 04:33 PM']+

For Example (and forgive me if it sounds terse, I just want to present the material directly):

Let me tell you about the non-habited LCWR sisters in my diocese:

They sponsor the "NEW WAYS" conference, which is totally heretical
They host the V-Monologues, which is an affront to modesty, decency, and women's dignity
They sponsor pro- GLBT events on their campuses and parishes
They support women's "ordination" on their campuses and parishes
They advocate abortion
They support contraception on their campuses
They persist in liturgical abuses like giving homilies
They supress Eucharistic Adoration
The speak-out publically against the bishop, pope, and magisterium
They incite dissent
They laugh in the face of their disobedience

Do these sound like good religious sisters to you? (these sisters were linked above)

They are the Sisters of Saint Joseph of Carondelet
The Sisters of Saint Benedict of Saint Benedict Monastery in Maplewood, MN
The Sisters of Saint Benedict of the College of Saint Benedict
The Franciscan Sisters of Perpetual Adoration in LaCrosse, WI
The Franciscan Sisters of Little Falls
Others

In my extensive experience, faithful LCWR sisters are the EXCEPTION, not, the rule. This is a horrific sadness and a travesty. But let us call things by their proper names. Innocent young women should not be ignorant of the agendas of these communities and that is why I am naming them above. They are well-developed, extensive, and heretical. Again, they have "good intentions" in their disobedience, but this is not enough. Ill-formed consciences are not an excuse when one does not do the proper work to form them. Ultimately, we must defer to the teachings of the Church! Let us pray for a return to authentic religious life in the vein of CMSWR communities.

In an English interview given in 2003, Pope Benedict, then Josef Cardinal Ratzinger, Prefect of the Congregation of Divine Faith, stated the greatest danger to the Church today: Becoming merely a social institution. In other words, it is good to provide the corporal works of mercy, but it is not enough to merit the carte blanche acceptance of the LCWR and its members[/quote]
'He who is not with me, is against me"...by you know who..(not George Bush)
The catholic Church Fullness of Truth THE Body of Christ,living on earth

Edited April 23, 2007 by EJames

[Starets]

I would love to see more links and info regarding monastic communities outside North America. It is good to see flourishing communities anywhere

[Veritas]

[quote name='Staretz' post='1253967' date='Apr 23 2007, 05:58 AM']I would love to see more links and info regarding monastic communities outside North America. It is good to see flourishing communities anywhere [/quote]

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Is there a special thread anywhere for non North American communities? Maybe we could start one

[Veritas]

[quote name='stlmom' post='1253766' date='Apr 22 2007, 10:46 PM']The need of "exposing the truth", as stated in another's post, is unnecessary and unproductive here, and does not fit with the focus of VS.[/quote]

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Who says?

[be_thou_my_vision]

Dear Moderators,
Please close this thread.
Love,
Jenny

[Lil Red]

moved to debate table

[Veritas]

[quote name='Lil Red' post='1305164' date='Jun 29 2007, 01:12 AM']moved to debate table[/quote]

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I didn't know we were going to talk about it again. It's been a couple months, hasn't it?