Stephen Colbert A Threat?

[The Joey-O]

[quote name='Revprodeji' post='1273095' date='May 14 2007, 01:47 PM']Joey_o...explain more about the mind of the revprodeji.

Why would he have issues with the state of world politics?[/quote]

I understand that you may have unique insight. I'm not questioning that. I'm simply trying to say that there is ALWAYS hope in EVERYTHING. As far as explainin why you have issues. I'm far too afraid of the consequences of doing such a thing.

[johnnydigit]

on the one hand, he can lead people astray if taken the wrong way. on the other hand, he could be leading people to the Church out of curiosity. so which one is better?

personally i've always found him funny because i like that type of humor. haven't seen him for a while though, since i've grown pretty sensitive to tv and such. as long as he doesn't preach any untruths, i guess it's good we have at least one person in that niche of hollywood who isn't ashamed to call himself Catholic?

[kenrockthefirst]

The following is typical: on Monday (May 14) night's show, Colbert did a bit about Mitt Romney. In it, Colbert said something along the lines of, "I don't have a problem with Mitt Romney being openly Mormon. Mormonism's fine, it's tied for second along with all other religions after Catholicism."

While the above was stated semi-tongue in cheek, my sense is that there's some element of "truthiness" to these types of comments by Colbert.

[prose]

I think he is Catholic. And probably a pretty good one.

I thought his Christmas sets were awesome!

[kenrockthefirst]

[quote name='prose' post='1275043' date='May 16 2007, 11:38 AM']I think he is Catholic. And probably a pretty good one.

I thought his Christmas sets were awesome![/quote]

He is definitely Catholic, and makes comments like the one cited above all the time. Indeed, my only problem is that he often refers to a) the Earth being only 6,000 years old, and b) the Rapture, neither of which are taught by the Catholic Church (but which I think he espouses to "wind up" his guests).

[Sirklawd]

ive gotta say I think he's walking a fine line. Sure he will say Catholic truths or say things like Catholicism is number one, but when I see it, it all seems in-character. His character, atleast from what I can tell, is a total mockery of the percieved "right" by the "left". So everything he does as that character is seen in that light. Sure some of the things are funny, but it really turns my stomach.

It also just plain smells of elderberries that comedy central already has a left-leaning, news-comedy show (daily show) and rather than have a similar show that leans a little right. the have this, another left-leaning show communicated from a fake, right-leaning person, done up to further cut down the "right"

its just petty. I could never imagine say, as a similar example, a republican-biased show done up from a democratic perspective where the host, who pretended to be democrat was all "har har har, ima democrat, blah blah"

the fact that they took off Tough Crowd and now have this is just sad.

[kenrockthefirst]

[quote name='Sirklawd' post='1275077' date='May 16 2007, 12:28 PM']ive gotta say I think he's walking a fine line. Sure he will say Catholic truths or say things like Catholicism is number one, but when I see it, it all seems in-character. His character, atleast from what I can tell, is a total mockery of the percieved "right" by the "left". So everything he does as that character is seen in that light. Sure some of the things are funny, but it really turns my stomach.

It also just plain smells of elderberries that comedy central already has a left-leaning, news-comedy show (daily show) and rather than have a similar show that leans a little right. the have this, another left-leaning show communicated from a fake, right-leaning person, done up to further cut down the "right"

its just petty. I could never imagine say, as a similar example, a republican-biased show done up from a democratic perspective where the host, who pretended to be democrat was all "har har har, ima democrat, blah blah"

the fact that they took off Tough Crowd and now have this is just sad.[/quote]

I guess I see Colbert as more of a "sacred cow skewerer" than a one-dimensional, left-leaning "conservative" character. Hilary Clinton, Harry Reid, and Nancy Pelosi don't exactly get a free pass on that show. That's why I think that you need to take his comments about Catholicism with a grain of salt, but the other way, toward believing that he means it more than he doesn't mean it when he recites a portion of the Creed.

[johnnydigit]

[quote name='Revprodeji' post='1269961' date='May 10 2007, 09:25 AM']Im politically apathetic, but I think he is very funny[/quote]

i'd think you'd need to be somewhat apathetic to find the humor in it, or else you'd just be offended from either camp.

[toledo_jesus]

[quote name='XIX' post='1269844' date='May 10 2007, 02:01 AM']Colbert kinda makes me cringe. Maybe it's because his audience is pretty left-leaning.

And I'm...not [/quote]
yeah, but where else can you hear things like:

[quote]all religions are equal in that they’re tied for second after Catholicism.[/quote]

[toledo_jesus]

[quote name='Sirklawd' post='1275077' date='May 16 2007, 02:28 PM']ive gotta say I think he's walking a fine line. Sure he will say Catholic truths or say things like Catholicism is number one, but when I see it, it all seems in-character. His character, atleast from what I can tell, is a total mockery of the percieved "right" by the "left". So everything he does as that character is seen in that light. Sure some of the things are funny, but it really turns my stomach.

It also just plain smells of elderberries that comedy central already has a left-leaning, news-comedy show (daily show) and rather than have a similar show that leans a little right. the have this, another left-leaning show communicated from a fake, right-leaning person, done up to further cut down the "right"

its just petty. I could never imagine say, as a similar example, a republican-biased show done up from a democratic perspective where the host, who pretended to be democrat was all "har har har, ima democrat, blah blah"

the fact that they took off Tough Crowd and now have this is just sad.[/quote]
I read a blog comment someplace that said not only is he a satirical right-wing character, he is also satirizing the left's preconceived notions of a right-winger. so, he makes fun of mindless conservatives and also of liberals who think all conservatives are mindless. it's surprisingly sophisticated!

[The Joey-O]

[quote name='toledo_jesus' post='1275529' date='May 16 2007, 10:53 PM']I read a blog comment someplace that said not only is he a satirical right-wing character, he is also satirizing the left's preconceived notions of a right-winger. so, he makes fun of mindless conservatives and also of liberals who think all conservatives are mindless. it's surprisingly sophisticated![/quote]

That's exactly what I get from the show. It's not one sided at all. Rather, I always see him as battling both the Republicans and Democrats. Frankly, when I can tell what he's subtly getting at (his character isn't subtlle, but the subtle criticisms of the left and the right are there), I'm usually in agreement with him.

[Sirklawd]

hmm ok i see what you guys are saying. I can accept that. Unfortunately, as has been also mentioned, I dont think the general audience of the show gets that. There's a whole lot of "blah blah blah the right is stupid, blah blah colbert makes fun of the right this show is great, blah blah lets go get drunk at frat parties"

[Ziggamafu]

[quote name='Sirklawd' post='1275077' date='May 16 2007, 12:28 PM']"har har har, ima democrat, blah blah"[/quote]

[Anastasia13]

Stephen Colbert thinks it's ok to disagree with or question the church.

[Paddington]

[quote name='Light and Truth' post='1282492' date='May 28 2007, 05:17 AM']Stephen Colbert thinks it's ok to disagree with or question the church.[/quote]

Light and Truth,

Could you be more specific?

"Question the Church" can be interpreted charitably without implying any dissent.

"Disagree with" can merely be about stuff like fasts and priestly celibacy without implying disobedience.


Thanks
Paddington

[Budge]

I sure hope Stephen Colbert has repented of one of his past acting jobs.


Have any of you heard of Strangers with Candy.

I watched this show {I was not saved yet} and it was very very raunchy...{I had to repent of watching it} I do truly like Amy Sedaris, but this is a show no Christian should watch}

Stephen Colbert actually was the creepiest character on the show, a very homosexual teacher, that had the 'hots' for the art teacher who was also male.

[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strangers_with_Candy"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strangers_with_Candy[/url]

Edited May 28, 2007 by Budge

[Budge]

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmWmLzdp-po"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmWmLzdp-po[/url]

[Anastasia13]

[quote name='Paddington' post='1282510' date='May 28 2007, 04:41 AM']Light and Truth,

Could you be more specific?

"Question the Church" can be interpreted charitably without implying any dissent.

"Disagree with" can merely be about stuff like fasts and priestly celibacy without implying disobedience.


Thanks
Paddington[/quote]
I have not heard a lot of specifics. I know that he has spoken of believing it is ok to question the church, but generally not with much detail. I discussed the use of birth control being a step toward reducing abortion when asked about a joke dealing with birthcontrol and viagra in this interview. [url="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4464017"]http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4464017[/url]

Edited May 28, 2007 by Light and Truth

[Anastasia13]

[quote name='Light and Truth' post='1282633' date='May 28 2007, 12:27 PM']I have not heard a lot of specifics. I know that he has spoken of believing it is ok to question the church, but generally not with much detail. I discussed the use of birth control being a step toward reducing abortion when asked about a joke dealing with birthcontrol and viagra in this interview. [url="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4464017"]http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4464017[/url][/quote]
Oh shoot, I totally miswrote that. [i]He[/i] discussed the use of birth control being a step toward reducing abortion when asked about a joke dealing with birthcontrol and viagra in this interview

[Paddington]

[quote name='Light and Truth' post='1282633' date='May 28 2007, 04:57 PM']I have not heard a lot of specifics. I know that he has spoken of believing it is ok to question the church, but generally not with much detail. I discussed the use of birth control being a step toward reducing abortion when asked about a joke dealing with birthcontrol and viagra in this interview. [url="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4464017"]http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4464017[/url][/quote]


Thanks Light and Truth.

It's on the audio thing, isn't it? My speakers are busted. I couldn't listen to it.