CatholicCid Posted June 27, 2007 Posted June 27, 2007 I'd think, now, that the consititution would prevent any state from becoming officially any religion. Why Indiana though? What's wrong with Ohio?
Budge Posted June 27, 2007 Posted June 27, 2007 Why wouldnt this make you happy? Allah supposely being God and all according to Catholic teaching--Nostra Aetate. You could go set up some Catholic mosques.
Sojourner Posted June 27, 2007 Posted June 27, 2007 1) Indiana would not become Muslim. Unless the demographics wildly changed. 2) It's unconstitutional. There were several states that had official state religions back in the day, but that was done away with early on in U.S. history.
MichaelF Posted June 27, 2007 Posted June 27, 2007 (edited) 2 items: 1.) The Establishment Clause prevents a State Religion. Period. 2.) Maryland was founded by Recusant Catholics. Before the Constitution was written (by which time, the Catholic identity of Maryland was already heavily diluted). Lastly: If a State (or rather, the population thereof) wished to "become Muslim" (by that, I guess you mean "adopt Sharia"), it would violate the Equal Protection clause, by mandating "different" Rights to Women and non-Muslims. No go. Islam has, historically, not expanded well in the absence of military conquest. The exception being Malaysia, which was managed by the economic dominance of the Islamic merchants (nothing says "join up" like being filthy rich). Edited June 27, 2007 by MichaelF
Apotheoun Posted June 27, 2007 Posted June 27, 2007 Not all Catholics believe that Muslims worship the true God.
kenrockthefirst Posted June 27, 2007 Posted June 27, 2007 [quote name='Budge' post='1303040' date='Jun 27 2007, 06:43 AM']Why wouldnt this make you happy? Allah supposely being God and all according to Catholic teaching--Nostra Aetate. You could go set up some Catholic mosques.[/quote] Thanks for sharing. Keep coming. [url="http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/grenade.htm"]http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/grenade.htm[/url]
hoosieranna Posted June 27, 2007 Posted June 27, 2007 I'm not sure where the idea for this thread originated, but I have to express my perplexity. I'm a Hoosier. CAIR did used to be based in Plainfield-a while ago. They've since moved to Washington, DC. What's your beef?
Anthony Posted June 27, 2007 Posted June 27, 2007 (edited) [quote name='Budge' post='1303040' date='Jun 27 2007, 07:43 AM']Why wouldnt this make you happy? Allah supposely being God and all according to Catholic teaching--Nostra Aetate. You could go set up some Catholic mosques.[/quote] whatever budge. That wasn't even funny. Edited June 27, 2007 by Anthony
Starets Posted June 27, 2007 Posted June 27, 2007 [quote name='kenrockthefirst' post='1303241' date='Jun 27 2007, 02:16 PM']Thanks for sharing. Keep coming. [url="http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/grenade.htm"]http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/grenade.htm[/url][/quote] she's more a Ferrous cranus
Budge Posted June 27, 2007 Posted June 27, 2007 Hey, Im just pointing out the obvious, sorry if it hit a nerve, but folks look at what your church teaches and the confusion it leads into. [quote]Not all Catholics believe that Muslims worship the true God.[/quote] Sure I know there are Trad Catholics who reject Vatican II and what the latest Popes have taught. I respect them in that they at least hold consistently to the first commandment even if they get other things wrong such as what the Catholic Church is really about.
kujo Posted June 27, 2007 Posted June 27, 2007 I seem to remember something about the government won't make laws prohibiting or establishing an official religion...
Budge Posted June 27, 2007 Posted June 27, 2007 hehehehe Maybe this should be my new avatar... [img]http://i10.tinypic.com/4zkpb14.jpg[/img] [i] Exploding Catholic deceptions Everyday! {deceptions like Allah of Islam equals God}[/i]
kujo Posted June 27, 2007 Posted June 27, 2007 [quote name='Budge' post='1303348' date='Jun 27 2007, 03:38 PM']hehehehe Maybe this should be my new avatar... [img]http://i10.tinypic.com/4zkpb14.jpg[/img] [i] Exploding Catholic deceptions Everyday! {deceptions like Allah of Islam equals God}[/i][/quote] What the heck does this have to do with the debate? Gosh, you should change your name to match your new avatar. It should be "Bump"
Starets Posted June 27, 2007 Posted June 27, 2007 [quote name='Budge' post='1303348' date='Jun 27 2007, 03:38 PM']hehehehe Maybe this should be my new avatar... Exploding Catholic deceptions Everyday! {deceptions like Allah of Islam equals God}[/i][/quote] too bad you keep being hoisted by your own petard
Maggyie Posted June 27, 2007 Posted June 27, 2007 Regrettably I don't believe Maryland was named after the Virgin, even though Lord Baltimore set it up as a haven for Catholics. I think it was named after Queen Mary, in fact.
Apotheoun Posted June 27, 2007 Posted June 27, 2007 [quote name='Budge' post='1303338' date='Jun 27 2007, 12:33 PM']Sure I know there are Trad Catholics who reject Vatican II and what the latest Popes have taught. I respect them in that they at least hold consistently to the first commandment even if they get other things wrong such as what the Catholic Church is really about.[/quote] The Magisterium can definitively proclaim that a specific doctrine is divinely revealed or is intimately connected to divine revelation. That said, there is no way that a statement issued by the Magisterium on the nature of the Islamic religion can be seen as divinely revealed, or even as connected to divine revelation; and, as a consequence, a Catholic is not bound to accept statements of that kind. In other words, a man does not have to be a so-called "Traditional" Catholic in order to reject the idea that Muslims worship the true God; instead, he simply has to be an informed Catholic.
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