Phat Liturgies

[Laudate_Dominum]

Clips from a Greek Orthodox Liturgy
[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvGVCgXqELM&mode=related&search="]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvGVCgXqELM...ted&search=[/url]
[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3X9qmEfAVg&mode=related&search="]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3X9qmEfAVg...ted&search=[/url]
[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlydJAL-hm0&mode=related&search="]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlydJAL-hm0...ted&search=[/url]


Clip from the coronation of Pope Pius XII
[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrs0w0cilCc"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrs0w0cilCc[/url]

Pope John XXIII
[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTPG613HizE&mode=related&search="]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTPG613HizE...ted&search=[/url]
[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knBzW1Ur63g&mode=related&search="]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knBzW1Ur63g...ted&search=[/url]

[kateri05]

these are all so neat what a rich and wonderful tradition we have!

[Laudate_Dominum]

this thread has just been unpinned and deserves some bumpage.

[Laudate_Dominum]

I wish I could see this:

[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/90/PapalMass1.JPG[/img]

Pontifical High Mass (Pope John XXIII is in this picture).

[quote]In the context of the Tridentine Mass of the Roman Catholic Church, a Pontifical High Mass, also called Solemn Pontifical Mass, is a Solemn or High Mass celebrated by a bishop.

In the early Church, Mass was normally celebrated by the bishop, with other clergy. In the Roman Rite this evolved into a form of Solemn High Mass celebrated by a bishop accompanied by a deacon, subdeacon, thurifer, acolyte(s) and other ministers, under the guidance of a priest acting as Master of Ceremonies. Most often the specific parts assigned to deacon and subdeacon are performed by priests. The parts to be said aloud are all chanted, except that the Prayers at the Foot of the Altar, which before the reform of Pope Pius V were said in the sacristy or during the entrance procession, were said quietly by the bishop with the deacon and the subdeacon, while the choir sang the Introit.

Celebration by a Bishop other than the Pope
In contrast to celebration by a priest, a bishop celebrates almost the entire first half of the Solemn High Mass (until the offertory) at the cathedra (often referred to as his throne) to the left of the altar. Instead of saying "Dominus vobiscum" (The Lord be with you) as the opening liturgical greeting, a bishop says "Pax vobis" (Peace to you).

A bishop also wears vestments additional to those of a priest:

The dalmatic, the distinctive vestment of a deacon, worn under the bishop's chasuble to show that he has the full powers of the sacrament of Holy Orders
The tunicle, the particular vestment of the subdeacon, worn under the bishop's dalmatic, further to show the fullness of the major orders. Since the 19th century it looks almost exactly the same as the dalmatic
The mitre, the bishop's hat
The crosier, the bishop's hooked staff
buskins (ceremonial stockings) along with episcopal sandals a specially decorated form of footwear, in the shape of loafers
a pectoral cross
liturgical gloves
A metropolitan archbishop, celebrating Mass within the area of his jurisdiction, wears a pallium over the chasuble, as a sign of the special authority granted by the Pope, but which technically is not extensive, over the suffragan bishops.
When the bishop sits at the cathedra, a special silk cloth, called a gremial(e), of the same liturgical colour as the bishop's vestments, was placed in his lap.

The Pope's Pontifical High Mass, when celebrated with full solemnity, was even more elaborate. The Gospel and Epistle was sung not only in Latin by a Latin-Rite deacon and subdeacon, but also in Greek by Eastern clergy, wearing the vestments of their own rite and observing its customs, such as placing the deacon's stole on the Gospel Book and bowing rather than genuflecting. This was done to stress the unity of the universal Catholic Church, formed by both the Eastern and the Western (Latin Rite) Churches in full communion.

At the elevations of host and chalice, the Silveri symphony was played on the trumpets of the no longer existing Noble Guard. (Through a misunderstanding of the name "Silveri", English speakers sometimes referred to this as the sounding of "silver trumpets".) An asterisk - a common eucharistic implement in the Eastern Rites, in which it is shaped differently from the twelve-ray asterisk that was used in Papal Masses - was used to cover the host on the paten, when it was brought to the Pope at his throne for communion. The Pope drank the consecrated wine (changed into the blood of Christ) through a golden tube. (Even for the laity, the use of a tube (General Instruction of the Roman Missal, 248-250)[1] is one of the four ways envisaged in the 1970 revision of the Roman Missal for receiving Communion from the chalice.) It was also customary for some of the bread and wine use at the Mass to be consumed, as a precaution against poison or invalid matter, by the sacristan and the cup-bearer in the presence of the Pope at the offertory and again before the Pater noster in a short ceremony called the praegustatio.[/quote]

[Laudate_Dominum]

The homily from the Divine Liturgy in which Pope Benedict was present.

[quote]Homily by His All Holiness Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew during the Divine Liturgy on the Feast Day of St. Andrew at the Patriarchal Cathedral of St. George

With the grace of God, Your Holiness, we have been blessed to enter the joy of the Kingdom, to "see the true light and receive the heavenly Spirit." Every celebration of the Divine Liturgy is a powerful and inspiring con-celebration of heaven and of history. Every Divine Liturgy is both an anamnesis of the past and an anticipation of the Kingdom. We are convinced that during this Divine Liturgy, we have once again been transferred spiritually in three directions: toward the kingdom of heaven where the angels celebrate; toward the celebration of the liturgy through the centuries; and toward the heavenly kingdom to come.

This overwhelming continuity with heaven as well as with history means that the Orthodox liturgy is the mystical experience and profound conviction that "Christ was, is, and ever shall be in our midst!" For in Christ, there is a deep connection between past, present, and future. In this way, the liturgy is more than merely the recollection of Christ's words and acts. It is the realization of the very presence of Christ Himself, who has promised to be wherever two or three are gathered in His name.

At the same time, we recognize that the rule of prayer is the rule of faith (lex orandi lex credendi), that the doctrines of the Person of Christ and of the Holy Trinity have left an indelible mark on the liturgy, which comprises one of the undefined doctrines, "revealed to us in mystery," of which St. Basil the Great so eloquently spoke. This is why, in liturgy, we are reminded of the need to reach unity in faith as well as in prayer. Therefore, we kneel in humility and repentance before the living God and our Lord Jesus Christ, whose precious Name we bear and yet at the same time whose seamless garment we have divided. We confess in sorrow that we are not yet able to celebrate the holy sacraments in unity. And we pray that the day may come when this sacramental unity will be realized in its fullness.

And yet, Your Holiness and beloved brother in Christ, this con-celebration of heaven and earth, of history and time, brings us closer to each other today through the blessing of the presence, together with all the saints, of the predecessors of our Modesty, namely St. Gregory the Theologian and St. John Chrysostom. We are honored to venerate the relics of these two spiritual giants after the solemn restoration of their sacred relics in this holy church two years ago when they were graciously returned to us by the venerable Pope John Paul II. Just as, at that time, during our Thronal Feast, we welcomed and placed their saintly relics on the Patriarchal Throne, chanting "Behold your throne!" So, today we gather in their living presence and eternal memory as we celebrate the Liturgy named in honor of St. John Chrysostom.

Thus our worship coincides with the same joyous worship in heaven and throughout history. Indeed, as St. John Chrysostom himself affirms: "Those in heaven and those on earth form a single festival, a shared thanksgiving, one choir" (PG 56.97). Heaven and earth offer one prayer, one feast, and one doxology. The Divine Liturgy is at once the heavenly kingdom and our home, "a new heaven and a new earth" (Rev. 21.1), the ground and center where all things find their true meaning. The Liturgy teaches us to broaden our horizon and vision, to speak the language of love and communion, but also to learn that we must be with one another in spite of our differences and even divisions. In its spacious embrace, it includes the whole world, the communion of saints, and all of God's creation. The entire universe becomes "a cosmic liturgy", to recall the teaching of St. Maximus the Confessor. This kind of Liturgy can never grow old or outdated.

The only appropriate response to this showering of divine benefits and compassionate mercy is gratitude (eucharistia). Indeed, thanksgiving and glory are the only fitting response of human beings to their Creator. For to Him belong all glory, honor, and worship: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit; now and always, and to the ages of ages. Amen.

Truly, particular and wholehearted gratitude fills our hearts toward the loving God, for today, on the festive commemoration of the Apostle founder and protector of this Church, the Divine Liturgy is attended by His Holiness our brother and bishop of the elder Rome, Pope Benedict XVI, together with his honorable entourage. Once again, we gratefully greet this presence as a blessing from God, as an expression of brotherly love and honor toward our Church, and as evidence of our common desire to continue – in a spirit of love and faithfulness to the Gospel Truth and the common tradition of our Fathers – the unwavering journey toward the restoration of full communion among our Churches, which constitutes His divine will and command. May it be so.[/quote]

[Laudate_Dominum]

I came across some pictures from the ordination of that priest whose first Mass I was at a couple weeks ago.


[img]http://www.institute-christ-king.org/images/DSC_0006.JPG[/img]

[img]http://www.institute-christ-king.org/images/DSC_0036.JPG[/img]

[img]http://www.institute-christ-king.org/images/DSC_0079.JPG[/img]

[img]http://www.institute-christ-king.org/images/DSC_0131.JPG[/img]

[img]http://www.institute-christ-king.org/images/nave-shotWolftracker.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.institute-christ-king.org/images/DSC_0146.JPG[/img]

[img]http://www.institute-christ-king.org/images/DSC_0239.JPG[/img]

[img]http://www.institute-christ-king.org/images/DSC_0473.JPG[/img]

[img]http://www.institute-christ-king.org/images/DSC_0481.JPG[/img]

[Noel's angel]

Wow! Beautiful!

[Laudate_Dominum]

I didn't post any pics of the actual ordination so...


[img]http://www.institute-christ-king.org/images/DSC_0279copy_000.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.institute-christ-king.org/images/DSC_0429.JPG[/img]

[img]http://www.institute-christ-king.org/images/DSC_0576.JPG[/img]

[img]http://www.institute-christ-king.org/images/DSC_0601.JPG[/img]

The first blessing goes to the Archbishop.

[img]http://www.institute-christ-king.org/images/DSC_0639copysend.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.institute-christ-king.org/images/DSC_0636.JPG[/img]

This priest probably blessed a thousand people after his first Mass. That was so awesome.

[img]http://www.institute-christ-king.org/images/Picture045.jpg[/img]

[N/A Gone]

[quote name='kateri05' post='1308601' date='Jul 1 2007, 09:52 PM']what a rich and wonderful tradition we have![/quote]

I wish I had a church within driving distance of me that was remotely like this. Looking at how rich and awesome our tradition is it makes me sad what modern churches are like.

[Laudate_Dominum]

[quote name='Revprodeji' post='1341057' date='Jul 25 2007, 10:09 PM']I wish I had a church within driving distance of me that was remotely like this. Looking at how rich and awesome our tradition is it makes me sad what modern churches are like.[/quote]


I feel your pain brother.

[Laudate_Dominum]

[quote name='Revprodeji' post='1341057' date='Jul 25 2007, 10:09 PM']I wish I had a church within driving distance of me that was remotely like this. Looking at how rich and awesome our tradition is it makes me sad what modern churches are like.[/quote]
The nice thing is that traddy parishes get more vocations on average than "modern" parishes so I presume that as time goes on we will feel the influence of clergy who respect the more timeless expressions of our faith.

This is an understatement actually since I read recently that in dioceses with a [i]forma extraordinaria[/i] parish these parishes tend to have more priestly vocations than all the other parishes in the area combined.

[SJP]

[quote name='Laudate_Dominum' post='1341077' date='Jul 26 2007, 12:33 AM']The nice thing is that traddy parishes get more vocations on average than "modern" parishes so I presume that as time goes on we will feel the influence of clergy who respect the more timeless expressions of our faith.

This is an understatement actually since I read recently that in dioceses with a [i]forma extraordinaria[/i] parish these parishes tend to have more priestly vocations than all the other parishes in the area combined.[/quote]

L_D, do you remember where you read the statistics about vocations? If you have the link, I'd appreciate it if you could post it.

Thanks.

[Laudate_Dominum]

This is a wonderful Mass: [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enWiFcsBqIE"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enWiFcsBqIE[/url]

[Laudate_Dominum]

[quote name='SJP' post='1341453' date='Jul 26 2007, 12:58 PM']L_D, do you remember where you read the statistics about vocations? If you have the link, I'd appreciate it if you could post it.

Thanks.[/quote]
Ok, it was an article I was reading the other day. I'll see about finding it and seeing what's up.

[phatcatholic]

do you have this yet?

Latin Mass with Narration by Fulton J. Sheen
[url="http://youtube.com/watch?v=R6AOvStZS64"]http://youtube.com/watch?v=R6AOvStZS64[/url]

[Laudate_Dominum]

[quote name='phatcatholic' post='1345674' date='Jul 31 2007, 07:44 PM']do you have this yet?

Latin Mass with Narration by Fulton J. Sheen
[url="http://youtube.com/watch?v=R6AOvStZS64"]http://youtube.com/watch?v=R6AOvStZS64[/url][/quote]


That video just rocks

[Laudate_Dominum]

I don't have many pictures of this liturgy, but I thought I would post what I do have of the Dominican rite.

The ordinary for this Mass can be found here: [url="http://members.aol.com/liturgialatina/dominican/mass_ordinary.htm"]http://members.aol.com/liturgialatina/domi...ss_ordinary.htm[/url]


Older pictures:

[img]http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h119/NoonienSoong_2006/Dominican%20Rite/Mass09Offertory.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h119/NoonienSoong_2006/Dominican%20Rite/494120094_021891f7d5.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h119/NoonienSoong_2006/Dominican%20Rite/494120090_e3a16dba6e.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h119/NoonienSoong_2006/Dominican%20Rite/494120086_7b8222143e.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h119/NoonienSoong_2006/Dominican%20Rite/494113931_c012b85153.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h119/NoonienSoong_2006/Dominican%20Rite/494113921_1b60f187d3.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h119/NoonienSoong_2006/Dominican%20Rite/494113925_6a4967875a.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h119/NoonienSoong_2006/Dominican%20Rite/494120092_33e61866c9.jpg[/img]

[Laudate_Dominum]

Recent pictures (Dominican rite):

[img]http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h119/NoonienSoong_2006/Dominican%20Rite/lucarneliturgie.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h119/NoonienSoong_2006/Dominican%20Rite/dominicanrite1.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h119/NoonienSoong_2006/Dominican%20Rite/e2eare2.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h119/NoonienSoong_2006/Dominican%20Rite/dominik29rl2.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h119/NoonienSoong_2006/Dominican%20Rite/dominicanrite2.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h119/NoonienSoong_2006/Dominican%20Rite/77c0re2.jpg[/img]

[Laudate_Dominum]

I've watched this sequence of videos a hundred times and it never gets old. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2MChixSMnM&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2MChixSMnM...feature=related[/url]

[Laudate_Dominum]

Thanks to NLM it has come to my attention that the traditional Premonstratensian (Norbertine) Rite was recently celebrated by a Norbertine community in England.

[url="http://thenewliturgicalmovement.blogspot.com/2008/02/missa-cantata-in-premonstratensian-rite.html"]http://thenewliturgicalmovement.blogspot.c...ns
an-rite.html[/url]

[url="http://norbertinevocations.wordpress.com/2008/02/01/missa-cantata-in-the-premonstratensian-rite/"]http://norbertinevocations.wordpress.com/2...ratensian-rite/[/url]

[b]The Mass[/b]

[img]http://norbertinevocations.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/cimg00921.jpg[/img]

[img]http://norbertinevocations.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/cimg0097.jpg[/img]

[img]http://norbertinevocations.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/cimg0115.jpg[/img]

[b]Other Picture of the Rite[/b]

[img]http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/9656/frigoletju7.jpg[/img]

[img]http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/4125/frigolet2nj6.jpg[/img]

[img]http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/1743/frigolet3xr5.jpg[/img]

[url="http://thenewliturgicalmovement.blogspot.com/2007/08/photos-from-solemn-premonstratensian.html"]http://thenewliturgicalmovement.blogspot.c...tr
tensian.html[/url]
[url="http://thenewliturgicalmovement.blogspot.com/2006/11/premonstratensian-rite-summary.html"]http://thenewliturgicalmovement.blogspot.c...te-summary.html[/url]