slickchic34 Posted July 10, 2007 Posted July 10, 2007 (edited) I think it's a totally understatement to say that the woman should have a right to choose to abort the baby or not, what about the babies rights? the baby is a human being too. infact Fetus in latin means "little one". And it makes me sick because one dog bit a man and got brutally shot for it, that people get angry and say that the man should go to jail or be put on deathrow just because he killed a dog. Don't get me wrong i love dogs. but what about all those mothers who killed the children, or all those doctors and nurses that assist them. Why don't we hold them accountable for those murders. And youth in asia as it's called, personally i want to live to a ripe old age, i would like to be the nice old lady on the block that gives cookies and snacks to all the children on the block and tells wonderful stories. and i cant do that if I'M DEAD!! plus it's just wrong to put a mandatory limit on children in a family, children are God's fingerprints. the gift of reproduction has God written all over it and to destroy life is like trying to wipe out God from your life. When asked about contraception, I tell people that i am waiting for tha one special person to marry me so i don't need. And plus there is an upside to waiting; 1 a man respects a woman that respects herself and her body. 2 with all the HIV and AIDS viruses out ther it's just not worth the risk. These are my views, let me know yours and if you think differently then me then i'm going to tell you everybody has a right to they're opinion and this is mine. we can discuss my opinion, your opinion, or bring other peoples views on anything to deal with the issue of life here. Edited July 10, 2007 by slickchic34
iggyjoan Posted July 10, 2007 Posted July 10, 2007 I've noticed that everybody that is for abortion has already been born.
IrishSalesian Posted July 10, 2007 Posted July 10, 2007 [quote name='iggyjoan' post='1322798' date='Jul 10 2007, 03:00 PM']I've noticed that everybody that is for abortion has already been born.[/quote] Funny isn't it?!?
slickchic34 Posted July 10, 2007 Author Posted July 10, 2007 (edited) I know i have seen signs that say "my mom was pro-choice!" duh! then why are you here? My favorite pro-life saying is: Abortion, the sacrifce of the innocent for the spirit of the age. Edited July 10, 2007 by slickchic34
Brigid Posted July 10, 2007 Posted July 10, 2007 you know, you'll probably be a little hard-pressed to find someone on here who supports any of those things... I mean, it is a catholic phorum.
Pontifite 7 of 10 Posted July 10, 2007 Posted July 10, 2007 Abortion makes me mad. I can't talk about it now. Explicit language will follow if I get hyped up.
slickchic34 Posted July 10, 2007 Author Posted July 10, 2007 (edited) I know that but, there are some catholics that have slightly different views than the majority. Plus this can be a place were you talk about new updates on the fight for life. Such as the state i live in banned partial abortion(thankgoodness), meaning they wait a couple months till the baby is older before they decide to abort it or not. horrible there would be even more pain for the baby. Also New York is forcing all hospitals to provide contreceptives in the medicare to all employees if asked. Even the catholic hospitals. thats absurd, it's a catholic hospital for a reason, if the employees don't like the medicare they're provided go else were! Edited July 10, 2007 by slickchic34
Resurrexi Posted July 10, 2007 Posted July 10, 2007 It's euthanasia... not youth in Asia : And who here voted for abortion and artificial contraception?
goldenchild17 Posted July 10, 2007 Posted July 10, 2007 (edited) [quote name='StThomasMore' post='1323252' date='Jul 10 2007, 04:29 PM']It's euthanasia... not youth in Asia : And who here voted for abortion and artificial contraception?[/quote] whoever it was might've also voted against euthanasia and child-limitation laws in Asia. Very curious. Against killing some innocent life but not all? Edited July 10, 2007 by goldenchild17
tojo Posted July 11, 2007 Posted July 11, 2007 [quote name='StThomasMore' post='1323252' date='Jul 10 2007, 05:29 PM']It's euthanasia... not youth in Asia : And who here voted for abortion and artificial contraception?[/quote] Yeah, I'm totally fine with youth in Asia.
missionarybelle Posted July 11, 2007 Posted July 11, 2007 however, many youth in Asia have to grow up with limited children because of china's stupid laws. ha ha but I definately thought that it was youth in asia instead of euthanasia for a very long time
missionarybelle Posted July 11, 2007 Posted July 11, 2007 (edited) double post Edited July 11, 2007 by missionarybelle
slickchic34 Posted July 11, 2007 Author Posted July 11, 2007 yeah me too thanks for setting me straight.
God the Father Posted July 12, 2007 Posted July 12, 2007 Abortion is, contrary to what's been mentioned prior, disgustingly inefficient. Abortion should be outlawed, not because it's unethical, but because without it this country(this planet?) could have a miniature menial job squad. Ever walked through a city and been disgusted at the amount of trash littering the streets? Ever been appalled by the state of border security? Ever wished a small army of toddlers on stationary bikes could produce enough electricity to power Detroit? Women who don't want their baby can, instead of offering it for adoption or getting it nixed, would sign it over to the government. Now I no what you're thinking, government should be kept small and taxes low yadda yadda yadda and I hear you but the plan would call for a total overhaul of the social welfare department and money can always be taken from the Israel fund if need be. The children would be kept alive and stimulated etc. by a science/medical contractor in agreement with the government for five or six years, until they can walk, communicate crudely, and perform basic tasks etc. at which point they would be assigned a job. The jobs would be stuff that a five or six year old can do and continue to do for a good 12 or so years, IE cleaning up trash in cities and highways, generating power, holding a tommy gun and standing on the Mexican border shooting anyone dark who tries to cross it and when they stop moving let an adult know. The possibilities are endless. Think of any seemingly easy task to be done where it seems like there's not enough people willing to do it and walah it's done. In exchange for their labor the children are treated to a government subsidized private education. They would live in large blocky complexes with bedrooms and common areas with billiards tables, tobacco machines, pinball, etc. whatever Uncle Sam has the extra cash to provide. Their families would be their fellow unwanted children, the directors of their occupations, and the social workers in charge of their physical/mental/emotional health and development. Once the little mistakes turn eighteen they'll be on their own, unless they desire otherwise. If the system works their education will have succeeded and their social workers will have prepared them for real life. There is no ethical dilemma here because they have been saved from oblivion. Almost all of societies little ills will be fixed, thousands upon thousands of human resources will be rescued over the years. Anything unconventional in the children's lives that arises as a result of their occupation could be remedied unconventionally and without hassle because the system and it's components are property of the state. There will be no upset family, and with any luck, no upset socially progressive people. If it's necessary for the kids to become nocturnal or attend school for 14 years, so be it, it must and will be done. The government would take the position that America's new menial workforce is to be lauded and respected for their contributions, and for the system to be a success the media and the population would have to be manipulated to believe likewise, so as the children workers will not be stigmatized once they're out. If the child desires a college education and has the work ethic(and he should) and credentials to do attend, the child's former status as a state slave should not affect his chances. Any discrimination that occurs as a result will give the socially progressive people something to whine about. Every time an abortion is performed more than one 300 millionth of America's (I say America because other nations would be too inhibited by their accents to take initiative with the program until it was tested successfully) productivity is flushed down the sink. Meat is murder. Sorry if there's some swear words in there I forgot to take out, I typed it up in wordpad a few days ago just as the thoughts came out of my mind. And I do believe abortion is unethical, for the record.
Resurrexi Posted July 12, 2007 Posted July 12, 2007 Or you could just send the boys to monestaries and the girls to convents...
cathoholic_anonymous Posted July 12, 2007 Posted July 12, 2007 [quote name='God the Father' post='1325050' date='Jul 12 2007, 05:50 AM']And I do believe abortion is unethical, for the record.[/quote] If you sincerely believed that, you would not make fun of its victims. And by 'victims' I include the children themselves, their families, and society at large. Only God knows just what and who we've lost. Miserere nobis.
imogen Posted July 12, 2007 Posted July 12, 2007 i had no trouble with ticking the boxes against abortion and euthanasia, but had to think about the contraception one....... help!!!!
Didymus Posted July 12, 2007 Posted July 12, 2007 contraception makes the marital act imperfect, and creates a blemish because the husband and wife cannot fully give of themselves when a it is present.
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