Aloysius Posted February 17, 2004 Posted February 17, 2004 okay, now last sunday my bro went to mass as he always does by himself in his own car ..... i asked him who he had for the 12 oclock mass "Fr. Gallagher" he replied... "Oh really, that's interesting, cuz he did the 10 too" said i.... so i checked it out and Fr. Gary definitely did the 12 oclock.......... sooo my plan is to tell him either he comes to confession with me this saturday or i let our parents know of his treachery. is this blackmail morally wrong in any way? :cool:
thicke Posted February 17, 2004 Posted February 17, 2004 That's tough one. How old is your brother? Does he still live at home?
Lil Red Posted February 17, 2004 Posted February 17, 2004 well, i think it's wrong, but since you're going to confession anyway.... lol, better not, to commit a sin and tell yourself it'll be okay if you just confess it, is a sin too, so better not. Your parents will probably tell him to take you anyway as punishment!
Rebirth flame Posted February 17, 2004 Posted February 17, 2004 i don't know if blackmail is ever justifiable, but the first thing that came to mind was "the ends do not justify the means." There are exceptions to that saying, but whether or not this situation is one of them, i can't say for sure...
Aloysius Posted February 17, 2004 Author Posted February 17, 2004 i donno. is it a sin? #1 no my parents wont make him go to confession #2 he willfully skipped Church and it's hard to see no full knowledge that that was wrong, lying to his parents and all that, if he doesn't know that's wrong he's one IGNORANT fellow #3 therefore, he could possibly end up going and receiving the Eucharist this upcoming sunday #4 if he went to confession sat, there'd be no need to worry bout 2 and 3 #5 i donno.. :cool:
cimlog Posted February 17, 2004 Posted February 17, 2004 I think that it is reasonable. I would first suggest instead of making a deal with him. Suggest he goes to confession, even though you already have. Then if he declines mention it to your parents in a professional fashion. According to you, he lied, and that is wrong. Take a good approach about it.
Mrs. Bro. Adam Posted February 17, 2004 Posted February 17, 2004 I don't really see that as blackmail... although...I'd change some of the wording to say: I know that you didn't go to mass and I think that we both know that the best thing to do would be to go to confession with me. Missing Mass is one thing, but to lie to our parents are another. I'm just worried about you, and I trust that you will do the right thing. Of course...that's just my two cents.
cimlog Posted February 17, 2004 Posted February 17, 2004 I agree word for word, comma by comma with what Mrs.BroAdam wrote above! / \ | | | | Agreed
Aloysius Posted February 17, 2004 Author Posted February 17, 2004 haha, you don't know my bro though. if i get him to go it's "forgive me father for i have sinned, it's been, well since last time CCD forced us to go, since my last confession" :ph34r:
Lil Red Posted February 17, 2004 Posted February 17, 2004 Mrs.Bro.Adam, your words always inspire me!!
socalscout Posted February 17, 2004 Posted February 17, 2004 This is only my opinion. He has free will. Call him out on it face to face with no one around and let his conscious dictate his actions. You will only push him away if you tell anyone else. It will not help. Again, only my opinion.
Colleen Posted February 17, 2004 Posted February 17, 2004 i don't know if it's really blackmail. it's more a fraternal correction. i agree with the others. tell him he should go to confession, and if he doesn't, i think you should bring it to your parents' attention.
Thy Geekdom Come Posted February 17, 2004 Posted February 17, 2004 I'm 17 and don't have a car... Yeah, well, I'm 19 and I don't have a car or a liscense!
Rebirth flame Posted February 17, 2004 Posted February 17, 2004 This is only my opinion. He has free will. Call him out on it face to face with no one around and let his conscious dictate his actions. You will only push him away if you tell anyone else. It will not help. Again, only my opinion. i agree. I think that he would only go out of spite if he went after you "forced" him to, and that might push him farther away than you'd like. As far as blackmail goes, it's all about the delivery, as Mrs. Bro. Adam said. In some cases, your bro might not feel he should do anything without alittle motivation from a figure who greatly influences his life. Pray about it. Maybe you're that figure. Maybe someone else is. Maybe someone influencing him this way will "turn him around." As i don't know the fullness of the situation, what i'm saying may bear little relevance anyway, but yeah. That, personally, is what turned me around, having my parents help me. Pray about it. :)
thicke Posted February 17, 2004 Posted February 17, 2004 haha, you don't know my bro though. if i get him to go it's "forgive me father for i have sinned, it's been, well since last time CCD forced us to go, since my last confession" :ph34r: Some people are laughing at what you said, but it's not funny. Someone's salvation (or possible lack there of) is no laughing matter.
thicke Posted February 17, 2004 Posted February 17, 2004 If I were in your shoes, I would consider it blackmail. I would think that I had to tell the folks. But, I might give him the chance to go to confession and avoid telling the folks. That's not blackmail, that's charity.
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