smeagol Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 divorce and gay marriage arent the same. yah i know but they do have something in common. they both diminish the sanctity of marriage. right? yah! what else diminishes marriage's sanctity? how about all those reality shows (who wants to marry a millionaire, etc) and pornography (that diminishes the sanctity of sexuality) and extramarrital affairs or premarital sex. these are all sins in the Church's eyes. BUT do we really want to amend the constitution and hereby declare that porn, divorce, premarital sex, etc are not only illegal but unconstitutional?!!!!?!?! is this the way to go about trying to 'keep marriage sacred' ? also, there is more to marriage and family than procreation. not only do couples make babies, but hopefully they raise them too. babies can't be conceived "the normal way" by gays just as children can't be raised "the normal way" by a single mother or single father or by someone totally unrelated. -- an elaboration of the similarity between gay marriage and divorce, in that they both diminish the sanctity of the institution of marriage. still hungry? here's some more food for thought: all the amendments to the constitution (excepting prohibition, which was an utter failure) have been about extending rights to others, not limiting rights. ultimately, we can (or should be able to) agree that marriage's sanctity is determined by each individual couple. some decree from the govt is not going to make marriage any more sacred. --- i know i'm voicing the minority on this board here, but i think i should try to explain and defend the opposing viewpoint. just because we Christians know that a certain action isn't virtuous doesnt mean the government has the right to make that action illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmjtina Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 gay marriage is a direct attack at the family. as Cmom once said, Same-sex marriage attempts to re-define marriage itself. THis is different than divorce which can be seen as a failure of an individual marriage. Failure of marriages are nothing new, redefining it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God Conquers Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 Divorce is the choice to NOT be married. Gay Marriage is a slap in the face to marriage and the dignity of the sexes. It is seeking, not equal rights, but rights over and above those of you and I. Gay people have the right to get married. They are looking for the right to marry anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God Conquers Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 Divorce is the choice to NOT be married. (I'm not saying its right) Gay Marriage is a slap in the face to marriage and the dignity of the sexes. It is seeking, not equal rights, but rights over and above those of you and I. Gay people have the right to get married. They are looking for the right to marry anyone. It's looking to marry when you should not be. Also, we can't hope to classify sin in terms of degree. Sin is sin and shouldn't happen. We should legislate against sanctioning sin although we can't prevent people from committing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the protector Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 Why does the government have the right to define marriage at all? Shouldn't the term marriage be left to religion? Why not call every union b/t two consenting adults a civil union? If you just want the benefits, don't get married under the rules of a religion. If you just want a union under God, then get married through the Church and skip the legal process. If you want both, do both. I don't necessarily agree with the homosexual lifestyle, but this effort really isn't worth the time. We can focus are energy on things like stopping wars or curing diseases. We aren't suffering a low population crisis here. The world population blew up last century. I think its pretty irresponsible to just churn out more kids. Overpopulation just leads to more war, disease and famine. gay marriage is a direct attack at the family. On your definition of the family, the nuclear family. The structure of the family is different around the world. It is culturally acceptable for some fathers to stay out of what we consider essential aspects of family life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Eminence Posted March 11, 2004 Share Posted March 11, 2004 The California Supreme Court just ordered a halt to same-sex marriages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lounge Daddy Posted March 12, 2004 Author Share Posted March 12, 2004 Now, if only they can get some troublesome city leaders to comply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sursum Corda Posted March 13, 2004 Share Posted March 13, 2004 There's not an overpopulation problem. That's a myth put forth by abortion advocates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colleen Posted March 13, 2004 Share Posted March 13, 2004 what sort of people have we become that we now define ourselves by our sexuality? this is so disgusting. the homosexual community supporting gay "marriage" merely wants the government to recognize and legitimize their "sexual identity." This is not right. I hope it can be stopped with a constitutional amendment. If you take marriage out of the context of religion, it's created for the nurturing and protection of the family. what family would be nurtured here? I completely support this amendment because recognizing gay unions can only harm the country, not help it. That's my $0.02. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlipFlopHead Posted March 13, 2004 Share Posted March 13, 2004 [quote name='smeagol' date='Feb 25 2004, 02:08 AM'] divorce and gay marriage arent the same. yah i know but they do have something in common. they both diminish the sanctity of marriage. right? yah! what else diminishes marriage's sanctity? how about all those reality shows (who wants to marry a millionaire, etc) and pornography (that diminishes the sanctity of sexuality) and extramarrital affairs or premarital sex. these are all sins in the Church's eyes. BUT do we really want to amend the constitution and hereby declare that porn, divorce, premarital sex, etc are not only illegal but unconstitutional?!!!!?!?! is this the way to go about trying to 'keep marriage sacred' ? also, there is more to marriage and family than procreation. not only do couples make babies, but hopefully they raise them too. babies can't be conceived "the normal way" by gays just as children can't be raised "the normal way" by a single mother or single father or by someone totally unrelated. -- an elaboration of the similarity between gay marriage and divorce, in that they both diminish the sanctity of the institution of marriage. still hungry? here's some more food for thought: all the amendments to the constitution (excepting prohibition, which was an utter failure) have been about [i]extending[/i] rights to others, not limiting rights. ultimately, we can (or should be able to) agree that marriage's sanctity is determined by each individual couple. some decree from the govt is not going to make marriage any more sacred. --- i know i'm voicing the minority on this board here, but i think i should try to explain and defend the opposing viewpoint. [b]just because we Christians know that a certain action isn't virtuous doesnt mean the government has the right to make that action illegal.[/b] [/quote] Amen amen amen! I couldn't have said it better myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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