Healthcare And War

[dairygirl4u2c]

i concede whether abortion will change is a debatable issue. 67 or so percent want it in the first trimester, and i could give a lot more stats and ideas for why it's not unwise to think it won't change significantly. that to vote for it is being charlie brown football kick betrayed naively.

but, it's certainly not a sin, if it's not going to change... and if it's debatable whether it will change... then i'd think it's at least debatable to vote for a prochoice person who can change oher things despit ethem being prochoice.

Edited May 16, 2008 by dairygirl4u2c

[dairygirl4u2c]

also... if there were more iraqis dying before the invasion, i would concede the point. i've not seen the data yet though.

somehow ironmonk thought it wiser to post links to catholic.com and scripturecatholic which have little to do with anything, and then a few tenuous and vague links between iraq and al quieda, then effectively go on a tangent about "many" in relation to who can afford healthcare and missed the point.

Edited May 17, 2008 by dairygirl4u2c

[picchick]

[quote name='dairygirl4u2c' post='1530735' date='May 16 2008, 06:48 PM']i concede whether abortion will change is a debatable issue. 67 or so percent want it in the first trimester, and i could give a lot more stats and ideas for why it's not unwise to think it won't change significantly. that to vote for it is being charlie brown football kick betrayed naively.[/quote]
I agree that the issue will not change significantly. However, like I mentioned before, change happens gradually. Roe v Wade is not going to change overnight. But a pro-life (or in this case more pro-life) president will nominate judges who are of the like mindset of him. At least this is the hope and thought. We have a greater chance at having a judge like that for a pro-life candidate than a pro-choice candidate. I, at least, vote for the principles and workings behind. Not just because it would be a sin.

It is a sin to vote otherwise because it is a vote for someone who promotes the killing of innocent babies.

[quote]but, it's certainly not a sin, if it's not going to change... and if it's debatable whether it will change... then i'd think it's at least debatable to vote for a prochoice person who can change oher things despit ethem being prochoice.[/quote]

Gradually it will change.
If someone does not have respect for the basic dignity of life, the life in the womb at the eariliest beginning, how do you know that he will respect human at any other stage in the game? Is it because they can see the person? Hear the person? Talk to the person?

What must I do to show that a baby in the womb, whether it is first trimester, second trimester, third trimester, is just as deserving of life to the candidates? No, instead the pride themselves on voting for the babies death in most or all cases. That shows me that they have no resepct.

Meg

[picchick]

I forgot to add this:

Furthermore we cannot give up on such an important issue because we do not see a sudden change.

If I applied the Charlie Brown prinicple to anything else in my life, I probably wouldn't be where I am today.
"Oh everytime I study for this class, I still fail so what is the point of studying? I'll just clean my room."

"Everytime I practice this passage of music, I still screw it up. I'm not going to practice it anymore, I am just going to play this fun stuff."

This is more to me like a "give up" practice rather than a "let's try again" practice.

Sure the other candidates have other issues that they are supporting and it is all good. Yet everything good crumbles when you lose respect for life at the earliest stage.

Meg