KnightofChrist Posted June 21, 2008 Posted June 21, 2008 Atheism is a lonely place to live, which is why you probably draw yourself to the People of God who are joyful because of that.
Autumn Dusk Posted June 21, 2008 Posted June 21, 2008 err umm....I was trying to be catholic so I hung around catholics.
Alycin Posted June 21, 2008 Posted June 21, 2008 [quote name='Autumn Dusk' post='1577906' date='Jun 20 2008, 08:04 PM']err umm....I was trying to be catholic so I hung around catholics.[/quote] Out of a sincere curiosity... what is your reason for staying now?
Galloglasses Posted June 21, 2008 Posted June 21, 2008 (edited) She said it was amusement before. But then before she became Athiest she said she was here to find amusement out of us. Edited June 21, 2008 by Galloglasses
HisChildForever Posted June 21, 2008 Posted June 21, 2008 [quote name='Alycin' post='1577908' date='Jun 20 2008, 08:08 PM']Out of a sincere curiosity... what is your reason for staying now?[/quote] Exactly what I was thinking.
Autumn Dusk Posted June 21, 2008 Posted June 21, 2008 I'm still new at being athiest...its only been just over a week now. If catholics don't think its appropriate for an athiest to be on here, just say and I'll leave.
Galloglasses Posted June 21, 2008 Posted June 21, 2008 Thats not it, at all. Its that its odd that you've made sarcastic remarks in every thread mentioning God, (almost every thread), and it seems odd that you'd hang out here if what we posts seems to tick you off.
Autumn Dusk Posted June 21, 2008 Posted June 21, 2008 almost every thread? You're exaggerating a bit...it wasn't more than 10 posts. Plus, you all provide free entertainment....maybe I should go download some public domain audio books...you're mean to me.
Galloglasses Posted June 21, 2008 Posted June 21, 2008 Free entertainment? Isn't that meanness on your part? You're insinuating we're clowns.
peach_cube Posted June 21, 2008 Author Posted June 21, 2008 [quote name='Autumn Dusk' post='1577884' date='Jun 20 2008, 07:29 PM']There's a stretch from there is no God to "there is no morals" people need some sort of order...if that order includes believing in a God, so be it.[/quote] Since you are new to the whole atheism thing I will break your new found belief system down for you: There is no God. Humans are the result of evolution and the principles identified by Darwin. In nature we do not describe the behaviors of animals as either good or bad. They are described as being helpful, detrimental, or neutral in the light of evolution. Therefore, since humans are another type of animal brought forth only by evolution a humans behaviors cannot be judged good or bad. As atheists in the past have argued based off of this logic you can deem those humans who are detrimental to the gene pool as "disposable." As they will surely not help bring about any further evolution. Also, you should probably spell atheist correctly.
peach_cube Posted June 21, 2008 Author Posted June 21, 2008 [quote name='Autumn Dusk' post='1577925' date='Jun 20 2008, 08:35 PM']almost every thread? You're exaggerating a bit...it wasn't more than 10 posts. Plus, you all provide free entertainment....maybe I should go download some public domain audio books...you're mean to me.[/quote] I don't mind you being around at all, please continue.
Galloglasses Posted June 21, 2008 Posted June 21, 2008 BTW, Peach Cube, there are different kinds of Athiests, it has amazing parralels with protestantism, most Athiest can't agree on the term Athiest itself.
MissScripture Posted June 21, 2008 Posted June 21, 2008 [quote name='Autumn Dusk' post='1576909' date='Jun 19 2008, 10:36 PM']this place is a nightmare Goodnight and Good bye[/quote] [quote name='Autumn Dusk' post='1577925' date='Jun 20 2008, 07:35 PM']almost every thread? You're exaggerating a bit...it wasn't more than 10 posts. Plus, you all provide free entertainment....maybe I should go download some public domain audio books...you're mean to me.[/quote]
MissScripture Posted June 21, 2008 Posted June 21, 2008 [quote name='Galloglasses' post='1577953' date='Jun 20 2008, 08:04 PM']BTW, Peach Cube, there are different kinds of Athiests, it has amazing parralels with protestantism, most Athiest can't agree on the term Athiest itself.[/quote] But the point of what he's saying is that if there is no God then the rest would logically follow, that there is no "right" and "wrong" and that people have no inherent value, and are only worth what they can contribute to humanity.
Galloglasses Posted June 21, 2008 Posted June 21, 2008 I also agree with that, I stated as much in my post I made before Peach Cube, if there was no God, there'd be no Objective force to decide on whats right or wrong and everything would be relative.
MissScripture Posted June 21, 2008 Posted June 21, 2008 [quote name='Galloglasses' post='1577972' date='Jun 20 2008, 08:17 PM']I also agree with that, I stated as much in my post I made before Peach Cube, if there was no God, there'd be no Objective force to decide on whats right or wrong and everything would be relative.[/quote] So, what you're saying is a lot of Atheists aren't "really" atheist? Or what...? I'm kind of confused how they can't agree on that stuff...
Galloglasses Posted June 21, 2008 Posted June 21, 2008 Oh, you'd be surprised, I'd link to uncyclopedia Dramatica which makes a straight forward, yet sarcastic remark about this particular subject. (That is, of course, if it wasn't for the 600+ pages of blasphemy on it)
MissScripture Posted June 21, 2008 Posted June 21, 2008 [quote name='Galloglasses' post='1577978' date='Jun 20 2008, 08:21 PM']Oh, you'd be surprised, I'd link to uncyclopedia Dramatica which makes a straight forward, yet sarcastic remark about this particular subject. (That is, of course, if it wasn't for the 600+ pages of blasphemy on it)[/quote] Umm...wow. I thought one of the frequently used arguments was that it was more logical...
Galloglasses Posted June 21, 2008 Posted June 21, 2008 (edited) ... I'm trying not to laugh. That's one reason, but even that is contested among Athiests, some do it because they veiw Religion as inherently evil. (I've met such Athiests who claim they've studied the Bible and found it to be the foundation of all evil in the world, no joke), you also got punk athiests who see religion as utter bull and don't want to bother with it, (yet these ones are also the most likely to rail against those who are openly Religious, i have a friend who is exactly this kind of Athiest) You got Soft athiests, who used to be any kind of athiest, but is just mellow and comfortable in his non-beleif and just doesn't think about it much, and you got the medium Athiest, who's basically the same as the soft Athiest only he's more likely to get involved in a Religious Debate if someone else starts. Then you got the Hard Athiests, the ones who claim it is logical, the evangelists of the Athiest Religion and Dogma. (the ones Peach described), These usually criticise the other types of Athiests for being too lenient on Religion. You got Agnostics, those who don't want to be put into any box, ( My brother, unfortuneately, fits into this description), I refer to such athiests as simply, Irreligious. They mostly the same, but they cannot agree with their definition, hence its parralels to Protestantism. You also have the New Athiests, the Richard Dawkins Variety. Edited June 21, 2008 by Galloglasses
MissScripture Posted June 21, 2008 Posted June 21, 2008 Well, I was too busy with school to try to argue with my brother but most of what I took away from his "I am atheist" e-mail was that it just made more sense...
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