Sinner Posted March 1, 2004 Posted March 1, 2004 As a Liturgical Nazi, I am very HAPPY!!! We just had our first Mass at my Parish with the new Liturgical changes in the GIRM 2003. I must say it was the most beautiful and reverent Mass we have had for some time!!!!!! And to top that, it was a "Life Teen" Mass!! We were on our knees at the right time, bowing at the right time..... even the teens around the altar got on their knees for the Eucharistic Prayer (still not fond of the sharing the altar thingy). I thought I was going to cry during Communion. I have been praying for these changes for some time!!! THANK GOD!!!!!! WHOOOOOHOOOOO!!!!!!!!
immaculata Posted March 1, 2004 Posted March 1, 2004 As a fellow liturgy nazi, I congratulate you! :lol:
Sinner Posted March 1, 2004 Author Posted March 1, 2004 (edited) Wull Paladin, for some Parishes there may be no changes.... kinda depends on how liturgically liberal, wacky or sloppy your parish is. If your norm is liturgical dance... then you would notice some BIG changes! For us it really meant kneeling when saying "we are not worthy to receive You", Life Teens kneeling at altar during Eucharistic Prayer, everyone bowing when saying the part in the Creed about "born of the Virgin Mary, and became man" and everyone remaining standing until the Body of Christ is safely in the Tabernacle.... also bowing to the Body of Christ before receiving Communion. Just more reverent in general. THANK GOD! *see the GIRM 2003 in the Reading Room if you are interested. Edited March 1, 2004 by Sinner
Spiritual_Arsonist Posted March 1, 2004 Posted March 1, 2004 As a Liturgical Nazi... I am one of those too. Just wanted to make sure you guys knew that.
OwNeD_byGoD Posted March 1, 2004 Posted March 1, 2004 liturgical nazi? whoa, haha never heard of that, what is it?
cmotherofpirl Posted March 1, 2004 Posted March 1, 2004 Someone who appreciates a liturgy done according to the book :cyclops:
PedroX Posted March 1, 2004 Posted March 1, 2004 Cmom, You are correct, people should remain kneeling until the tabernacle is closed. Additionally, a question could be raised regarding why lifeteens are around the altar at all during the Eucharistic prayer. peace...
cmotherofpirl Posted March 1, 2004 Posted March 1, 2004 "and everyone remaining standing until the Body of Christ is safely in the Tabernacle" this is the part I don't understand.
PedroX Posted March 1, 2004 Posted March 1, 2004 Right, the correct posture is kneeling. At least, that what my copy of the GIRM says. peace...
Thomas Michael Posted March 1, 2004 Posted March 1, 2004 Um... couldn't you folks think of a better term than "Nazi"? <_<
cmotherofpirl Posted March 1, 2004 Posted March 1, 2004 It is a term used by people who don't like liturgical correctness about those who do.
Thomas Michael Posted March 1, 2004 Posted March 1, 2004 Yeah, but people here are referring to THEMSELVES as "Liturgical Nazis". It just makes me a bit uncomfortable, even as a cradle Catholic of German ancestry. And the word has the potential to cause Phatmass to be blocked from some workplaces if "Nazi" is included in the corporate word fiddlers. How about y'all use "LC" (for "Liturgically Correct") or something?
joemal1117 Posted March 1, 2004 Posted March 1, 2004 How about.. Rubric Police or even better "Red" Heads People who have thier heads around the rubrics (which of course are red lettered) If all was right in the world you'ld be called Liturgy Committe :roll:
aByzantineCatholic Posted March 1, 2004 Posted March 1, 2004 (edited) Sinner, even the teens around the altar got on their knees for the Eucharistic Prayer Perhaps you should know that NO ONE is allowed "around the altar!" The Mass you went to was ILLICILIT and ILLEGAL! I would refer you to the GIRM for more understanding. Oh, when will the "Spirit of Vatican II" ever leave us! :sadder: If you want to watch a LEGAL mass then turn on EWTN. Edited March 1, 2004 by aByzantineCatholic
Paladin D Posted March 1, 2004 Posted March 1, 2004 Wull Paladin, for some Parishes there may be no changes.... kinda depends on how liturgically liberal, wacky or sloppy your parish is. If your norm is liturgical dance... then you would notice some BIG changes! For us it really meant kneeling when saying "we are not worthy to receive You", Life Teens kneeling at altar during Eucharistic Prayer, everyone bowing when saying the part in the Creed about "born of the Virgin Mary, and became man" and everyone remaining standing until the Body of Christ is safely in the Tabernacle.... also bowing to the Body of Christ before receiving Communion. Just more reverent in general. THANK GOD! *see the GIRM 2003 in the Reading Room if you are interested. Oh ok, thanks. :cool:
aByzantineCatholic Posted March 2, 2004 Posted March 2, 2004 You can read from EWTN why your Mass was ILLEGAL: http://www.ewtn.com/vexperts/showresult.as...nu=1&groupnum=0 Or, you can read this answer from EWTN: http://www.ewtn.com/vexperts/showresult.as...nu=1&groupnum=0
aByzantineCatholic Posted March 2, 2004 Posted March 2, 2004 Stop the Abuse! From EWTN, Lifeteen Question from Anon on 03-15-2003: Hi! I read Mark's post from 3/11. Our parish attempted to implement the Lifeteen program. Many of us youth, as well as a few adults had an issue with gathering around the altar. The pastor was fine with it, as was the youth minister and the core team. At our meetings to discuss why we didn't agree with the gathering at the altar we were told that "we should appreciate the opportunity" and "it is going to happen at WYD in Rome-so obviously the Pope agrees with it" (which it never happened). We used Notitiae 17 to prove that standing around the altar (nor gathering and kneeling) were allowed. Until we could quote exactly where it said it, we were ignored. As soon as we showed them the document they believed us and discontinued the practice (and the Lifeteen Mass). Answer by Fr. Robert J. Levis on 03-16-2003: Congratulations!!!! See what persistence does? Wonderful. Fr. Bo b Levis EWTN on Lifeteen Masses! Standup and fight for what is right! It will make you a better Catholic and a better person. Most import -> GOD WILL BLESS YOU FOR IT!!!!!!!! :D God Bless!
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