Hairdresser Is Sued For Refusing A Job To Woman In Headscarf

[homeschoolmom]

[quote name='tgoldson' post='1590206' date='Jul 3 2008, 01:54 PM']Ouch! sorry!!!!

I guess I need to find a better antivirus program...
[b]Hey mods! can you delete that link??[/b][/quote]
Done.

[StColette]

[quote name='rizz_loves_jesus' post='1590176' date='Jul 3 2008, 01:34 PM']Did it say in the job description that one had to show their hair while working in the salon?[/quote]

A lot of job descriptions don't give full details of every duty or requirement of the job. Some places require uniforms and some don't. Those details are often not found in the job ad and are something addressed upon interview. I interviewed someone for a position once who had a ton of earrings (it was a guy) and I informed him that he would have to remove those each day he worked, because it's part of our guidelines. I mean if you go for a job say at a tattoo place and you are a tattoo artist most likely you will be required to show off the work on your body or any work you did on yourself or designed for yourself. I would say the same goes for a hairstylist or a clothing stylist. I know several clothing companies that if you work in their stores you wear only their clothes while you are at work. You are like a billboard for the company when you are at work. The same would go for a hairstylist. Hair is what your job is so you gotta show off your skills and the best way is show off your own hair. I mean I wouldn't let someone who cut huge bald spots in their own hair touch my hair rofl

[Jesus_lol]

heh, as it seems that mme. vengier is blocking people faster than new people join, how long will it take before she can only debate herself?


heck, if employers dont have to hire you because you dont have something untangible like "the right attitude" or if you show up to the interview wearing innappropriately shabby clothes why cant they do what this shop did? however, they should have it as part of the job description to model new hairstyles.

[Madame Vengier]

[quote name='EstoVir_TheWay_4' post='1590086' date='Jul 3 2008, 11:13 AM']I understand that kujo is out of line, but you do seem to go out of your way to prove that Muslims cause trouble.

Do you have something against them?[/quote]


I have something against ISLAM. I don't have "something against" Muslims. I think they are pitifully deceived by the teachings of the leader of the moon cult, Mohammed. I don't appreciate someone putting words in my mouth. If I didn't like Muslims as a whole I would just say so. But for me to say "I don't" and then someone to sit there and repeatedly say "Oh, yes you do", that's something I won't tolerate.

And I didn't have to go out of my way to do anything. First of all, the topic of the thread is a Muslim woman suing over hurt feelings which we all agreed was absurd. I was not off-topic when I expressed my opinion that Muslims all over the world are pushing for the inculturation of their religious beliefs and way of life. The proof is already out there. I don't have to go out of my way to "prove" anything. All of you have access to TV, radio, newspapers, books and internet. All of these media sources are rife with news items about Muslims causing trouble.

I have never said anything about Muslims or Islam that wasn't true. You all may want to believe the best of everyone but sadly, the facts point to a different truth.

By the way, I don't know what Kujo said because I've had him on ignore for a very long time.

Edited July 3, 2008 by Madame Vengier

[Madame Vengier]

[quote name='puellapaschalis' post='1590140' date='Jul 3 2008, 12:11 PM']I think there's something to be said for the Muslim lady in question. Having your hair covered doesn't physically prevent you cutting someone else's hair (so long as it's kept well in place): for that you need your eyes and free movement of your arms and legs. It's not comparable to the lady who wanted to keep her face covered whilst teaching a language class; for the latter it's clearly necessary to see your teacher's face.

Is it necessary for a client to see his hairdresser's hair? I'm not sure. I don't go to the hairdresser's that often but when I do I tend to have a pretty good idea of what I want my hair to look like. In fact I'm not even sure I take much notice of his hairstyle.[/quote]


Normally, I would agree with this. Why can't she cut hair with her own hair covered? It really doesn't sound fair when taken at face value. But the fact is, hairstylists do represent the salon they work for. A previous poster pointed out that if you went for a manicure and the staff had gross nails, you would not want her to do YOUR nails. That's why the stylists represent their salons. There's nothing wrong with the way Muslim women look with the veil. Many of them wear hajibs that are quite ornate and fashionable and in that way they maintain the level of modesty they have chosen for themselves but they are still stylish in their own way. My issue is with this woman going from salon to salon to salon, knowing--she HAD to know--that her hair being covered was going to be an issue. Yet she persisted until she landed on a target she could sue. That's my issue. And that Muslims are doing this kind of thing all over the West.

What I would genuinely be interested in knowing is if there are beauty salons owned and operated by veiled Muslim women.

Edited July 3, 2008 by Madame Vengier

[Madame Vengier]

[quote name='rizz_loves_jesus' post='1590176' date='Jul 3 2008, 12:34 PM']Did it say in the job description that one had to show their hair while working in the salon?[/quote]


Probably not. It would be like putting up a sign saying you should use an umbrella when it's raining.

[Madame Vengier]

[quote name='Apotheoun' post='1590269' date='Jul 3 2008, 01:49 PM']I prefer [url="http://memritv.org/"]MemriTV[/url].[/quote]


Memri is excellent. So is Jihad Watch. And Dhimmi Watch.

[Madame Vengier]

[quote name='Apotheoun' post='1590283' date='Jul 3 2008, 02:01 PM']Yes, I do. But what I like about MemriTV is that the information is taken from Islamic televsion.[/quote]


Nitpicking and disparaging the sources (Memri, Jihad Watch, etc...there are hundreds of them...Gates of Vienna, Creeping Sharia, Sons of Apes and Pigs, The Opinionator, and on and on) that bring public awareness to Islamic terror and oppression is only meant to divert attention away from addressing the real issue: [u]Islamic terror and oppression[/u]. Criticizing the source of the information instead of facing the information itself is a tactical maneuver meant to discredit those who are fighting against global Islamic jihad by the dissemination of news items. I don't have any patience for it.

Edited July 3, 2008 by Madame Vengier

[puellapaschalis]

How can a hairstylist's hairdo fairly represent his own work? Can a hairdresser cut his own hair?

[CatherineM]

Mad V- I've been meaning to ask you who's in your new avatar? Is that also Paris or someone else? I saw a bizarre picture of Obama's wife the other day that I thought you might enjoy, then I got busy doing something else, and couldn't remember where I'd seen it.

[Madame Vengier]

[quote name='puellapaschalis' post='1590378' date='Jul 3 2008, 03:48 PM']How can a hairstylist's hairdo fairly represent his own work? Can a hairdresser cut his own hair?[/quote]


I said they represent the salons they work for.

They may not cut their own hair but they certainly do style it themselves before they go into work to represent their salons.

[Archaeology cat]

[quote name='puellapaschalis' post='1590378' date='Jul 3 2008, 09:48 PM']How can a hairstylist's hairdo fairly represent his own work? Can a hairdresser cut his own hair?[/quote]
I sometimes cut my own hair. I mean, it's nothing elaborate, but I can do it about as well as my stylist can, since I usually get simple cuts.