Born Again Christians

[LouisvilleFan]

Yeah, I don't think it would work so well in practice, but it does point out the great irony of Universalism because virtually every major religion believes it is "the truth." Just as one couldn't be faithfully Catholic and U/U, same can probably be said for Muslims, Hindus, and others. Thus, in trying to embrace everyone and everything, the U/U philosphy ends up embracing very few people.

I joked with my cousin if I would be welcome at her Unitarian church with a Bush sticker on my car, a gun rack, and promoting traditional marriage.

Edited August 21, 2008 by LouisvilleFan

[MissyP89]

"What I mean is this. An ordinary simple Christian kneels down to say his prayers. He is trying to get in touch with God. But if he is a Christian he knows what is prompting him to pray is also God: God, so to speak, inside him. But he also knows...that Christ is standing beside him, helping him to pray, praying for him. God is also the road or bridge along which he is being pushed toward that goal [of getting in touch with God]. So that whole threefold life of the three-personal Being is actually going on in that ordinary little bedroom where an ordinary man is saying his prayers." -C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity

I wrote a blog post on this very topic last year. [url="http://faithandthemuse.blogspot.com/2007/03/playing-favorites.html"]Feel free to check it out.[/url]

[MakeYouThink]

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' post='1631379' date='Aug 19 2008, 01:27 AM']So... there are born again Christians in the media sometimes. They're very stereotyped of course, but there's something I've started to notice.

They really really focus on Jesus.
They pray to Jesus ("In Jesus' name...").
I get the impression that when they say "Praise the Lord!" they mean Jesus.[/quote]

Why did you say the above three sentenses?

So, instead of putting up the first three sentences, ask if the majority of they believe in the father, son and holy spirit, because it can be interpreted as a judgment.

You through process is not too clear here. Albeit, you did say a whole bunch of ifs, but this is primarily a Catholic Message Board, so you can expect a whole lot of negative comments after this. Some protestants might think you are setting up people to be nasty comments like this

[quote name='HisChildForever' post='1631384' date='Aug 19 2008, 12:32 AM']This just reminds me of that insane woman on [i]Wife Swap[/i].

"GET OUT OF MY HOUSE [directed at the camera people], IN JESUS' NAME I PRAY. But if you love Jesus, you can stay."[/quote]

or this one made by you

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' post='1631388' date='Aug 19 2008, 12:34 AM']I was thinking of Dog the Bounty Hunter (who I love in spite of everything! )
Whenever they go out on the hunt, they say a prayer first. They always end with "In Jesus' name, Amen (amen has a long A, of course)" Then the one guy that they almost never show does the sign of the cross. That part cracks me up. [b]I think they secretly shun him.[/b][/quote]

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' post='1631395' date='Aug 19 2008, 12:47 AM']That woman is insane.

...but she proved my point "All you dark-sided people, get out of my house! If you believe *in Jesus* you can stay."

That's what I mean.[/quote]

[quote name='Kitty' post='1631421' date='Aug 19 2008, 02:20 AM'][img]http://bp2.blogger.com/_Sw4XAl1XV0g/RnHY_2dsMEI/AAAAAAAAAF0/VXtCsJcbx5s/s400/78748.jpg[/img]

DORKSIDED![/quote]

One of the terms of service on this message board is not to offend people, and how many people just did that by playing into their negative attitudes towards non-catholics?

All caused because you had to put up this stupid post? What did you hope to accomplish by putting this post up? Give your head a shake!

[HisChildForever]

That was the first thing that popped into my head. I was just teasing, bro.

[Selah]

hey, that lady brought it on herself. As Mo'Nique would say, when you act a fool on tv, they have the power to cut it, edit it, etc....so be careful how you portray yourself. it might come back to bite ya in the butt.

Edited August 21, 2008 by Selah

[HisChildForever]

[quote name='Selah' post='1633901' date='Aug 21 2008, 07:25 PM']hey, that lady brought it on herself. As Mo'Nique would say, when you act a fool on tv, they have the power to cut it, edit it, etc....so be careful how you portray yourself. it might come back to bite ya in the butt.[/quote]

And you know, in the episodes previous to her explosion, the woman was fairly normal and nice! Sure, she thumbed up her nose a lot because the family she stayed with was sort of New Age, and she refused to sit next to a "psychic" during a radio show because she believed it to be "dark-sided". (While I don't support practices like astrology and stuff, the woman could've been way more charitable...she totally offended the "psychic" guy and by acting up, she just gives Christians a bad name.)

[MakeYouThink]

[quote name='Selah' post='1633901' date='Aug 21 2008, 07:25 PM']hey, that lady brought it on herself. As Mo'Nique would say, when you act a fool on tv, they have the power to cut it, edit it, etc....so be careful how you portray yourself. it might come back to bite ya in the butt.[/quote]

Agreed.

Though, I wouldn't put it past a Satanist who pretends to be a Christian to act like she apparently did. Remember, they are at war with our side, so making us look like a bunch of nut jobs helps they're goals!

[HisChildForever]

Every time I see that picture of her, though...

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='MakeYouThink' post='1633585' date='Aug 21 2008, 11:42 AM']Why did you say the above three sentenses?

So, instead of putting up the first three sentences, ask if the majority of they believe in the father, son and holy spirit, because it can be interpreted as a judgment.

You through process is not too clear here. Albeit, you did say a whole bunch of ifs, but this is primarily a Catholic Message Board, so you can expect a whole lot of negative comments after this. Some protestants might think you are setting up people to be nasty comments like this



or this one made by you







One of the terms of service on this message board is not to offend people, and how many people just did that by playing into their negative attitudes towards non-catholics?

All caused because you had to put up this stupid post? What did you hope to accomplish by putting this post up? Give your head a shake![/quote]
My friend... this is ridiculous.
Before those "three sentences" you had such a problem with, I CLEARY said that Born-Again Christians are stereotyped in the media. That would be why I made this thread. I want to know if there's any truth behind it. Give your own head a shake please.
I posted this thread NOT to cause "Protestant bashing". I wanted to know if this is a legitimate occurence, and if it is, I want to know why.
Is that too much to ask?
Please stop putting words in my mouth. It bugs me to no end when people try that croutons.

[MakeYouThink]

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' post='1634779' date='Aug 22 2008, 02:45 PM']My friend... this is ridiculous.
Before those "three sentences" you had such a problem with, I CLEARY said that Born-Again Christians are stereotyped in the media. That would be why I made this thread. I want to know if there's any truth behind it. Give your own head a shake please.
I posted this thread NOT to cause "Protestant bashing". I wanted to know if this is a legitimate occurence, and if it is, I want to know why.
Is that too much to ask?
Please stop putting words in my mouth. It bugs me to no end when people try that croutons.[/quote]

Okay, I will apologize for saying that you may be setting things up for some protestant bashing, which happens a lot on this board.

It would be been better to say, is there a bias against born again christians in the Media, because whenever I seem to see one on TV are made out to look like they are a bunch of nut jobs. Do you think this is right?

And then people would say, hey, yeah that happens a lot. I don't really like because they're pretty much attacking anybody who believes in Christ.

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='MakeYouThink' post='1634823' date='Aug 22 2008, 02:54 PM']Okay, I will apologize for saying that you may be setting things up for some protestant bashing, which happens a lot on this board.

It would be been better to say, is there a bias against born again christians in the Media, because whenever I seem to see one on TV are made out to look like they are a bunch of nut jobs. Do you think this is right?

And then people would say, hey, yeah that happens a lot. I don't really like because they're pretty much attacking anybody who believes in Christ.[/quote]

Would it have been better to say that? In my opinion, no. That's not what my question is. The question isn't really about what biases there are against Protestants, it was about whether or not my observations are representative, and if so why? Similar, but different emphasis, which is why I phrased it the way I did.
To clarify...

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' post='1631379' date='Aug 19 2008, 12:27 AM']So... there are born again Christians in the media sometimes. [b]They're very stereotyped of course, but there's something I've started to notice.[/b]

They really really focus on Jesus.
They pray to Jesus ("In Jesus' name...").
I get the impression that when they say "Praise the Lord!" they mean Jesus.

[b]This isn't bad of course, it's a good thing...[/b]

...but I don't hear them mention God as often, much less the Holy Spirit.

[b]Am I correct, or is this just the way they've been stereotyped?[/b] I just don't notice them mention God often. At least not nearly as often as Jesus.
[b]If I'm right[/b], then why is this the case?[/quote]

I added the bold just now, which I believe I'm entitled to do with my own post. You'll notice that I never go into subjects like this without establishing that I may be completely wrong.

[quote name='MakeYouThink' post='1634823' date='Aug 22 2008, 02:54 PM']Okay, I will apologize for saying that you may be setting things up for some protestant bashing, which happens a lot on this board.[/quote]

Thanks, that's all I really need to hear.

[Majella]

Dealing regularly with "born-again Chritians" the thing that strikes me most is that the regard Our Lord as one of them; He is at the same level, so to speak.
They don't regard Him as the Almighty,Omnipotent God, for whom we should have a holy fear.

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='Majella' post='1651998' date='Sep 10 2008, 12:28 AM']Dealing regularly with "born-again Chritians" the thing that strikes me most is that the regard Our Lord as one of them; He is at the same level, so to speak.
They don't regard Him as the Almighty,Omnipotent God, for whom we should have a holy fear.[/quote]
Its the "Jesus is my best buddy deal" forgetting he is God the Son, present at Creation and waiting for the completion of Revelation.

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1652015' date='Sep 9 2008, 10:39 PM']Its the "Jesus is my best buddy deal" forgetting he is God the Son, present at Creation and waiting for the completion of Revelation.[/quote]
Would it be all right to say He was both?
I'll bet he had some laughs with the disciples, right?

[Selah]

[quote]Would it be all right to say He was both?
I'll bet he had some laughs with the disciples, right?[/quote]

I'm sure he did. i think what annoys me is the "Jesus is my homeboy" attitude. Ugh. "Word up, big G!" What the heck???? lol.

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='Selah' post='1652827' date='Sep 10 2008, 10:52 PM']I'm sure he did. i think what annoys me is the "Jesus is my homeboy" attitude. Ugh. "Word up, big G!" What the heck???? lol.[/quote]
I understand both sides, but I agree with you definitely. It's a fine line, not emphasizing His humanity over His divinity, and vice versa. We fall into both problems often.
What would you think would be a proper balance, if not the 'Jesus as a homeboy' type thing? I was trying to come up with something myself, but nothing came.

[Selah]

[quote]What would you think would be a proper balance, if not the 'Jesus as a homeboy' type thing? I was trying to come up with something myself, but nothing came[/quote]

a loved and respected friend, I suppose. *shrugs*

[Guest]

none of you watched I love new york did you ?? (hopefully not)
her mom went off on some crazy suff
wow

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='Selah' post='1652835' date='Sep 10 2008, 11:00 PM']a loved and respected friend, I suppose. *shrugs*[/quote]
Oops. That's pretty obvious. Sorry, it's late. Well... it's not late; I was up late last night.

[Selah]

So was I, which is probably why I couldn't think of anything