Your Thoughts On Barack Obama's Dnc Speech

[Madame Vengier]

[quote name='fidei defensor' post='1641135' date='Aug 29 2008, 01:00 AM']Good thing you can't vote, then

I can and I will be voting for Barack Obama.[/quote]

Score one for baby-killing, terrorist-pandering, and racist-pandering. And general corruption, socialiasm, lies and deceit.

[Madame Vengier]

[quote name='pan!c139' post='1641195' date='Aug 29 2008, 01:52 AM']We Americans are in a scary position, and half of us don't even know it.[/quote]

Word.

[kujo]

Very inspiring. I really enjoyed the part about patriotism. So true...let's stop thinking that everyone who thinks differently than us is part of some diabolical plan to bring down this country.

[dominicansoul]

HOT AIR
FLUFF
SAME OL' SAME OL' SONG AND DANCE
DRAMATIC YET EMPTY

[dUSt]

It was okay.

Still can't vote for a pro-choice politician, especially now that the lukewarm pro-life McCain has picked a [b]solid [/b]pro-life running mate.

If McCain would have picked a pro-choice VP then I think my conscience would have allowed me to vote either way.

Now it's a slam dunk pro-life vote. No Obama nation for me.

[Fidei Defensor]

[quote name='kujo' post='1641342' date='Aug 29 2008, 08:34 AM']Very inspiring. I really enjoyed the part about patriotism. So true...let's stop thinking that everyone who thinks differently than us is part of some diabolical plan to bring down this country.[/quote]
I agree. I felt very proud to be an American after watching it. It's been hard to feel that way with the way our country has been going. Don't get me wrong, I've always loved America... but it's better when your leader loves America, too.

[atheling]

[quote name='fidei defensor' post='1641629' date='Aug 29 2008, 12:01 PM']I agree. I felt very proud to be an American after watching it. It's been hard to feel that way with the way our country has been going. Don't get me wrong, I've always loved America... but it's better when your leader loves America, too.[/quote]

[quote]but it's better when your leader loves America, too[/quote]

Tell that to Obama who refuses to wear an American flag pin except when he speaks in front of veterans' groups.

I notice that Obama's crowd chants, "Obama" and "Yes we can" (straight out of The Little Engine that Could) and McCain's crowd chants, "USA"...

Hmmm.

[Fidei Defensor]

[quote name='atheling' post='1641860' date='Aug 29 2008, 03:57 PM']Tell that to Obama who refuses to wear an American flag pin except when he speaks in front of veterans' groups.

I notice that Obama's crowd chants, "Obama" and "Yes we can" (straight out of The Little Engine that Could) and McCain's crowd chants, "USA"...

Hmmm.[/quote]
Don't bother bringing up that argument again. Whether or not you wear a stupid flag pin says nothing about your patriotism. Do you wear a flag pin? If not, you are not an American and you hate the country, obviously.

And you must not pay attention to the rallies? I heard "USA" chanted many times. But I fail to see how chanting "Yes we can" is a bad thing? Should we be saying "no, we can't" instead?

Of course, if we want to talk about slogans, lets talk about how McCain started singing "Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran" at one of his rallies...

[Seven77]

I must say the man is a very eloquent speaker (even if his words were cotton candy) and was quite respectful towards McCain. Personally i did find myself for a second wishing he was pro-life.

I also perceived cowardice. Didn't he say something like "we don't agree with abortion but something needs to be done about unwanted pregnancies"? And he watered down and equated his support of same sex unions with non-discrimination.

[Seven77]

[quote name='atheling' post='1641860' date='Aug 29 2008, 05:57 PM']I notice that Obama's crowd chants, "Obama" and "Yes we can" (straight out of The Little Engine that Could) and McCain's crowd chants, "USA"...

Hmmm.[/quote]

no need to knock The Little Engine...i believe Bob the Builder is "Yes we can" and the Engine is "i think i can"

just FYI.

[dUSt]

That's been Obama's canned response regarding abortion for years now, even back during his debates with Alan Keyes during the Illinois race.

"We may disagree about abortion, but can't we all agree with reducing the number of abortions?"

Such a weak political answer.

If you're going to take a stance, tell us why, be firm in your stance, argue for your position. You can't? It's so frustrating.

What makes absolutely no sense is that he admits that there is a moral dimension to abortion, and it is a hard choice for people to make. WHY!?!? If abortion is what you say it is, just a medical procedure which only involves one human life (the mother's), then WHY is there a moral dimension, and WHY is it such a hard choice? By admitting anything else you acknowledge that abortion is more than just a medical procedure. From this position, we can deduct that Obama knows that another human life is involved. This is what makes Obama so distorted. I have more respect and understanding for a pro-choice politician who believes in some type of wacked out medical science that defines human life as starting at some later point in pregnancy. At least they believe that it is not involving another life, and is truly just a medical procedure. From his comments, it's clear that Obama knows that abortion is ending the life of a baby--and he STILL favors legal abortion. That is simply evil.

This same line of thinking also applies to every politician with the "personally opposed to abortion but believe in choice" stance.

Best case, pure dishonesty, worst case, pure evil.

[Akalyte]

I didnt think it was beautiful or nice. It was scary. This man acts like he's going to be the savior of the world. Then when he was talking about cutting down on the number of un-wanted pregnancies, the first thing that came to mind was the whole communist china thing. governmental permission to marry or conceive. The democrats are plain ignorant. They dont understand that this is a FREE country! A DEMOCRACY!

We govern our own lives! We shouldnt go around blaming other people for the holes we dig for ourselves. Poverty will always exist. It's simple, there are people who have more, and people who have less. It's always been that way! It's not up to the government to balance those things out. War has always existed, it was in heaven, came down to earth and its been here ever since. It ain't leaving any time soon.

I remember when I was poor as a child and walked the cold snowy winter streets of Massachusetts with my mother looking for a place to stay(we stayed at a shelter ran by nuns). Where were these "defenders of the poor and middle class" then? Where were they when my brother ended up homeless? Where are they in the liberal democrat bastion called "Massachusetts" while tons of people are getting laid off!

They are sitting in their mansions and riding in their expensive cars obsessive compulsively thinking about how much they hate bush. Truth is they don't want to help any one, they just want the chance to be in power. therefore they will say anything to get there. Barrack Sadam Hussein Obama Bin Laden is lucky i dont jump on You tube.

Edited August 30, 2008 by Akalyte

[MakeYouThink]

I didn't listen to the speech Obama made, because, well, frankly. . . I don't like Witchcraft.

There is no greater sin than the rebellion of Witchcraft. I oftened wondered about what that meant, but now I do know what it means.

The reason so many of you felt drawn to what he said was. . . he used witchcraft on you. He used positive words to make you want evil. It's the oldest trick in the book. Oh, Eve, you will not die when you eat of this fruit, you will be wise and be as gods when you eat of this. . . It sounded pleasant, and you wanted to support him.

Luckily, many of you have morals, and those morals allowed you to see through him. His words sound enticing, but the holy spirit reminded you that life is at stake here. You can't support someone, as Akalyte so aptly put -

[quote]I didnt think it was beautiful or nice. It was scary. This man acts like he's going to be the savior of the world. Then when he was talking about cutting down on the number of un-wanted pregnancies, the first thing that came to mind was the whole communist china thing. governmental permission to marry or conceive. The democrats are plain ignorant. They dont understand that this is a FREE country! A DEMOCRACY![/quote]

Scary, free country. Though, Ak, you should stop saying this is a Democracy, that is a brain washing too. Our countries are, hopefully, constitutional republics. (Well, Canada isn't, we're still apart of England, ). Democracies are where mob rules applies, because the 51 per cent get to dictate what the other 49 per cent have to do, and I would rather not have mob rule in our nations.

People should have the right to choose the way they want to live, and not force people into what the government wants!

Well, that's my two cents, from my impression of the thoughts about his speech. Not surprised though.

Edited August 30, 2008 by MakeYouThink

[Hassan]

[quote name='pan!c139' post='1641188' date='Aug 29 2008, 01:45 AM'][b]GREAT[/b] point. I heard an audio of Hitler the other day, and strangely, he sounded similar to Obama. *shudders* Scary. Convincing and evil at the same time.[/quote]


Really now?

How many angry speaches has Obama made in German?

[Hassan]

[quote name='dUSt' post='1641998' date='Aug 29 2008, 10:24 PM']That's been Obama's canned response regarding abortion for years now, even back during his debates with Alan Keyes during the Illinois race.

"We may disagree about abortion, but can't we all agree with reducing the number of abortions?"

Such a weak political answer.

If you're going to take a stance, tell us why, be firm in your stance, argue for your position. You can't? It's so frustrating.

What makes absolutely no sense is that he admits that there is a moral dimension to abortion, and it is a hard choice for people to make. WHY!?!? If abortion is what you say it is, just a medical procedure which only involves one human life (the mother's), then WHY is there a moral dimension, and WHY is it such a hard choice? By admitting anything else you acknowledge that abortion is more than just a medical procedure. From this position, we can deduct that Obama knows that another human life is involved. This is what makes Obama so distorted. I have more respect and understanding for a pro-choice politician who believes in some type of wacked out medical science that defines human life as starting at some later point in pregnancy. At least they believe that it is not involving another life, and is truly just a medical procedure. From his comments, it's clear that Obama knows that abortion is ending the life of a baby--and he STILL favors legal abortion. That is simply evil.

This same line of thinking also applies to every politician with the "personally opposed to abortion but believe in choice" stance.

Best case, pure dishonesty, worst case, pure evil.[/quote]
Perhaps you just don’t understand nuance?