Palin's Experience

[princessgianna]

[quote name='dairygirl4u2c' post='1646107' date='Sep 3 2008, 11:07 AM']the being a mom of seven stuff is nice and shows character, but it doesn't qualify one to be president, at all.
i'd much rather give more credit than being a mom of sevent to someone who ran nonprofit organizations etc, and represented them as a lawyer, and was a constitutional law professor for ten years at an ivy league type school.[/quote]
she is a Hockey mom of five! And she said thanks but no thanks to the government for money for a bridge that went nowhere.
She will be Vice president. McCain-President.

[dairygirl4u2c]

she was only there for two years too, remember.


[quote]Executive Experience: Harvard Law Review vs Wasilla

According to Josh Marshall, conservative blogs are making a big deal out of Palin's experience as Mayor of Wasilla, so this may be of more relevance than I thought.

When Barack Obama was President of the Harvard Law Review he likely had at least as much executive experience as Sarah Palin did as Mayor of Wasilla by at least one measure.

I count a staff of 90 individuals who currently are managed by the President of the Harvard Law Review. (I verified from a former HLR alum that the Prez actually does have managerial responsibiliy over the Board of editors).

Contrast that with City of Wasilla which from this website, I can verify have: a Mayor, Deputy Mayor, 6 City Council members, City Clerk and deputy, two members on the Finance staff, 6 members of the sports utility facility, 5 members in the Public Works Dept and likely several dozen other staff in other departments that are not specifically listed on the website. So while I don't have a hard number --maybe a reporter can dig deeper on this-- Obama running the HLR alone when he was in law school may have involved greater managerial activity.[/quote]

no, i do relaize being mayor is bigger than president of law review.
but when it can kinda sorta give it a run for the money,,, somehting is definitely awry

[dairygirl4u2c]

i'm always talking about the need for empiracal research, on things that would be contingent on emiracal data..... while others seem to think their views are obvious. so i can appreciate:

"As anyone who has spent time with Obama knows, he likes experts, and his choice of advisers stems in part from his interest in empirical research. James Heckman, a Nobel laureate who critiqued the campaign’s education plan at Goolsbee’s request, said, “I’ve never worked with a campaign that was more interested in what the research shows.”"



[quote]The List: Obama's Economists

We've mentioned these before in individual posts. Here's a unified list:

Economic policy advisors:
Jason Furman (director of economy policy) source bio
Austan Goolsbee (senior economic policy advisor), University of Chicago tax policy expert source Wikipedia website
Karen Kornbluh (policy director) source bio Wikipedia
David Cutler, Harvard health policy expert source Wikipedia website
Jeff Liebman, Harvard welfare expert source Wikipedia website
Michael Froman, Citigroup executive source bio
Daniel Tarullo, Georgetown law professor source bio
David Romer, Berkeley macroeconomist source website
Christina Romer, Berkeley economic historian source website
Richard Thaler, University of Chicago behavioral finance expert source Wikipedia

Robert Rubin, former Treasury Secretary source Wikipedia bio
Larry Summers, former Treasury Secretary source Wikipedia bio
Alan Blinder, former Vice-chairman of the Federal Reserve source Wikipedia bio website
Jared Bernstein, Economic Policy Institute labor economist source bio
James Galbraith, University of Texas macroeconomist source Wikipedia website

Paul Volcker, Chairman of the Federal Reserve 1979-1987 source Wikipedia
Laura Tyson, Berkeley international economist, Bill Clinton economic adviser source Wikipedia
Robert Reich, Berkeley public policy professor, former Secretary of Labor source Wikipedia weblog
Peter Henry, Stanford international economist source website

Other prominent economists who support Obama:
Brad Delong, Berkeley macroeconomist source Wikipedia website weblog
Joseph Stiglitz, 2001 Nobel laureate source Wikipedia
Edmund Phelps, 2006 Nobel laureate source Wikipedia
Ray Fair, Yale macroeconomist source Wikipedia
Dan McFadden, 2000 Nobel laureate source website
Robert Solow, 1987 Nobel laureate source Wikipedia

Prominent finance people who support Obama:
(not actually economists)
William Donaldson, Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) Chair 2003-05 source Wikipedia
Arthur Levitt, SEC chair 1993-2001 source Wikipedia
David Ruder, SEC chair 1987-1989 source Wikipedia

Updated and revamped 6/9/08 to reflect new announcements and again on 6/28/08, 8/21/08, and 8/22/08.[/quote]

[quote]The Other List: McCain's Economic Advisers

Who are the people who have left McCain confused about his own opinions? Here are his economic advisers mentioned in the press:

Doug Holtz-Eakin source
Holtz-Eakin is a formerly respected academic and government economist who has been reduced to making distortionary arguments to paper over the massive deficit black hole McCain's tax cuts would create.

Arthur Laffer source
Laffer is the originator of the Laffer curve, the fringe view that claims government revenue increases when tax rates are lowered. There is zero empirical evidence this is true at current tax rates. McCain has repeatedly said that he believes this foolishness, but Holtz-Eakin has said (also repeatedly) that McCain does not.

Phil Gramm source
Gramm is a lobbyist who was vice president of one of the investment houses most heavily implicated in the mortage industry scandal. As a senator he pushed for the banking deregulation that contributed to the current crisis. See more here.

Kevin Hassett source
Hassett has been widely ridiculed for writing the book Dow 36000: The New Strategy for Profiting from the Coming Rise in the Stock Market in 1999, predicting that the Dow would hit 36,000 within five years, if not sooner.

Donald Luskin source
Luskin has been repeatedly named the Stupidest Man Alive by Brad Delong. See here for an example. I can attest based on my own interaction with him a few years back that in addition to being not the sharpest tack in the box, he is also an extremely unpleasant person.

Carly Fiorina source
Fiorina was spectacularly fired from her previous job as CEO of HP. According to the Times,

... Republicans say Ms. Fiorina is using the McCain campaign to rebuild her image after her explosive tenure at Hewlett-Packard. They also say it is hard to see why a woman widely criticized for mismanaging one of Silicon Valley’s legendary companies is advising and representing a candidate who acknowledged last year that he did not understand the economy as well as he should.

Regarding Fiorina, Jeffrey Sonnenfeld, the senior associate dean for executive programs at the Yale School of Management, says "What a blind spot this is in the McCain campaign to have elevated her stature and centrality in this way. You couldn’t pick a worse, non-imprisoned C.E.O. to be your standard-bearer.”

With clowns like these advising him, it's not surprising that doesn't even know what his own positions are on major questions of economic policy. Admittedly, there's a difficult problem of cause-and-effect here. Is he incoherent because he gets lousy advice, or is it his utter ignorance on economic issues that led him to seek guidance from this crew? As evidence for the latter hypothesis, he has said "The issue of economics is not something I've understood as well as I should," and made similar assertions on many occasions.[/quote]

[cmotherofpirl]

[url="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brent-baker/2008/09/03/prime-time-focus-palins-deficiencies-couric-shes-turnoff"]http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brent-baker/2...ic-shes-turnoff[/url]

[dairygirl4u2c]

[quote]Obama is not a newcomer to thinking about civil liberties as you might imagine as a former law professor himself. Cass Sunstein, a law professor at the University of Chicago wrote a great piece today where he described his discussions with Obama about FISA.

In the space of about 20 minutes, he and I investigated the legal details. He asked me to explore all sorts of issues: the President's power as commander-in-chief, the Constitution's protection against unreasonable searches and seizures, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, the Authorization for Use of Military Force and more.

Obama wanted to consider the best possible defence of what Bush had done. To every argument I made, he listened and offered a counter-argument. After the issue had been exhausted, Obama said that he thought the programme was illegal, but now had a better understanding of both sides. He thanked me for my time.

This was a pretty amazing conversation, not only because of Obama's mastery of the legal details, but also because many prominent Democratic leaders had already blasted the Bush initiative as blatantly illegal. He did not want to take a public position until he had listened to, and explored, what might be said on the other side.[/quote]

[dairygirl4u2c]

it's pretty obvious picking her was politically motivated mostly.
he could have picked anyone, someone who was prochoice, with military experience etc.

yet he choose a woman, in alaska where there's oil, with a fiesty attitude.

maybe he truly thought he demeanor would change things, i don't know.
it could just as easily be politics as usual,,, cause she seems pretty militant on her own ideas. maybe he's be good for getting lobbyist money that's wasted back to the people, who know.

the point ultimately though,,,, is he could have surely found someoe better, and this was largely about politics, only.

[littleflower+JMJ]

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1647257' date='Sep 4 2008, 12:49 PM'][url="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brent-baker/2008/09/03/prime-time-focus-palins-deficiencies-couric-shes-turnoff"]http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brent-baker/2...ic-shes-turnoff[/url][/quote]

Man, how much did she get paid to defend Obama after every comment? She wasn't doing that at the DNC. lol

[littleflower+JMJ]

[quote name='Theosopher' post='1644337' date='Sep 1 2008, 01:31 PM']The comparison is simple, and I don't mean to be overly blunt but I think it necessary.

Sarah Palin runs a state. Barack Obama runs his mouth. Which of those two better qualifies someone to be President?[/quote]

ICE BURN!!!!

[homeschoolmom]

Can. Not. Stand. Katie. Couric.

Sorry, hot stuff.

[littleflower+JMJ]

[quote name='homeschoolmom' post='1647494' date='Sep 4 2008, 05:17 PM']Can. Not. Stand. Katie. Couric.

Sorry, hot stuff.[/quote]

Did you see her today? She kept repeating herself. "But she does not have more experience than Obama." "But she does not have more experience than Obama." Repeat. As if somehow it would make it true?

[homeschoolmom]

Maybe she gets a dollar every time she says that.

[littleflower+JMJ]

LOL I have no idea but for some strange reason every time the person would answer her question and defend Sarah Palin's past she would respond with that line (and in complete disbelief too) .

[homeschoolmom]

Thing is, I think the Obama people WANT to constantly compair his experience with hers because they are avoiding compairing his experience with McCains. He's not running against Palin... I think maybe the dems are worried that their ticket is flip flopped.