mortify Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 I find this type of architecture absolutely unappealing and totally unfitting for a Cathedral, but that's my opinion. [img]http://static.flickr.com/147/397461494_a919d5c9e0.jpg[/img] [quote]If the Jetsons were Catholic, they would worship here. Behold a 21st-century sanctuary, the Cathedral of Christ the Light in Oakland. Here sacred candleholders are bead-blasted to a heavenly sheen; holy texts are illuminated in stainless steel and embedded in resin compounds in the concrete flooring; and the focal point — a massive image of Christ himself — is formed by a custom-designed computer algorithm, with precision laser-drilled perforations in dozens of aluminum panels, shaping the hallowed figure in tiny points of light.[/quote] Read more [url="http://www.insidebayarea.com/ci_10532925"][u][b]here[/b][/u][/url] [img]http://www.metropolismag.com/images/images_0601/cal/i.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rizz_loves_jesus Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 Wait... isn't that a liturgical abuse? I thought the altar was supposed to be at one end of the church, not in the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autumn Dusk Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 I have no problem with this. The orginal churches were built with VERY modern archictecture for the time. Infact, things like flying buttresses were invented just for churches, but made there way to castles and other things. They wanted to do the same thing. Let in the light! Why do people see modern architechure as such a horrible thing when once those who built churches were scandousoly new? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selah Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 Well, i like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortify Posted September 30, 2008 Author Share Posted September 30, 2008 It seems so empty to me... basically a glass and steal structure, barely any sign Catholicity. I am body and spirit and so I can't rely on my own interior disposition, I want the worship I engage in to smother me with the Divine and Catholicism. I want the structure facing east, the pews facing the altar, the altar against the wall with the Tabernacle prominently displayed, six lit candles, the overwhelming aroma of incense, statues that make Protestant's shudder, and paintings that orient my mind towards heavenly things. Sorry, but this "thing" they spent hundreds of millions of dollars on doesn't cut it. Just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alicemary Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 Looks beautiful, especially with the beautiful California sunshine streaming in. Reminds me of the crystal cathedral that Schuler has. My parish looks like a gym, chairs, no kneelers, no stained glass, the Blessed Sacrament is not even kept in the tabernacle in the church, but in a side room. Yucko. I go, not for the look of the place, I go for what I find there, and more importantly WHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 (edited) The architecture betrays the liturgy and is created in disdain to everything the Magisterium, Holy Father, and faithful scholars have written about it in the last 40 years. If I did not know who built the church in question and asked questions about their theology, I would first say that the community is the center of their worship and not Christ. I would then say that they have a very low christology with an absence of attention to iconography. On the same vein I would say they are iconoclastic and deny the communion of the saints. I also see no stations of the cross so would conclude it is not Catholic. I would also say that they are clearly ignoring Sacrosanctum Concilium that the church should reflect our theology that we believe the Mass is a foretaste of heaven. Even the Jewish people knew their worship was a such and filled their temple with creation images. It also says a lot about their belief of God's majesty to have such an empty and bland church. Edited October 1, 2008 by Brother Adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icelandic_iceskater Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 if I attended mass there, I would probably be blinded by all that white. I I'd have a hard time focusing. It is impressive architecture though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggamafu Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 Coming from a guy who has read (and thoroughly enjoyed) the books [i]Ugly As Sin[/i] and [i]Spirit of the Liturgy[/i]: There are three laws to Catholic architecture: Permanence Verticality Iconography Looks like they have the first two down; hopefully the last one will be revealed by interior decorations. I think that the space looks beautiful. Nevertheless, it does indeed bow to the document issued by the USCCB in the early 90's that is responsible for the modernization of U.S. Church architecture. One notices design choices (such as Mass in the round) that reflect an ideology that puts the Body of Christ as present in the People above the Body of Christ as present in the Eucharist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortify Posted October 1, 2008 Author Share Posted October 1, 2008 Zig, ty for your post, very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortify Posted October 1, 2008 Author Share Posted October 1, 2008 [quote name='Brother Adam' post='1667200' date='Sep 30 2008, 07:06 PM']The architecture betrays the liturgy and is created in disdain to everything the Magisterium, Holy Father, and faithful scholars have written about it in the last 40 years. If I did not know who built the church in question and asked questions about their theology, I would first say that the community is the center of their worship and not Christ. I would then say that they have a very low christology with an absence of attention to iconography. On the same vein I would say they are iconoclastic and deny the communion of the saints. I also see no stations of the cross so would conclude it is not Catholic. I would also say that they are clearly ignoring Sacrosanctum Concilium that the church should reflect our theology that we believe the Mass is a foretaste of heaven. Even the Jewish people knew their worship was a such and filled their temple with creation images. It also says a lot about their belief of God's majesty to have such an empty and bland church.[/quote] Interesting points as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geetarplayer Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 It looks much different in the video than it does in the pictures. Though the architecture is completely modern, the artwork and sculptures look like they will be modeled after much more traditional styles. I kind of like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Wednesday Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 [img]http://www.alicia-logic.com/capsimages01/tns_014TheNeverEndingStory.jpg[/img] [img]http://laurajane.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/emp1.jpg[/img] Call my name! Bastian! Please! Save us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autumn Dusk Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 I don't understand why only renassance art and arcitecture represents the church!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
add Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 [url="http://www.sacred-destinations.com/italy/vatican-sistine-chapel.htm"]Visit My Website[/url] The beauty and lore of the Sistine Chapel is unmatched in both ancient and modern times It is more than the sum of its artistic wonders: it is a symbolic statement The chapel itself is of no great architectural interest. It is shaped as a simple rectangule, 40.93 meters long by 13.41 meters wide. These are the exact dimensions of the Temple of Solomon as given in the Old Testament. The chapel is 20.70 meters high and roofed with a flattened barrel vault. There are six tall windows cut into the long sides, forming a series of pendentives between them. The walls are decorated with frescoes by Renaissance masters and are divided into three horizontal levels. By comparison, The Cathedral of Christ the Light in Oakland on the other hand is a hideous monstrosity, glorifying nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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