Internet Pirating, Intellectual Property, And Restitution

[CatherineM]

Every year I get a royalty check from Public Lending Rights to reimburse me for those who check the book out rather than buy it, and CanCopy for those who photocopy things out of it.

[Dust's Sister]

Here's another one for you, How about buying used cd's? I don't know if buying used cd's like lets say from Half Price books --- Do the artists get credit there still for another sale?

[CatherineM]

[quote name='Dust's Sister' post='1749819' date='Jan 12 2009, 07:55 PM']Here's another one for you, How about buying used cd's? I don't know if buying used cd's like lets say from Half Price books --- Do the artists get credit there still for another sale?[/quote]

I vaguely remember many years ago that Garth Brooks led some kind of fuss about buying used CD's because they didn't get any licensing from them. Can't remember how that came out.

[mortify]

I wouldn't steal a CD from a store, however if they offered it to me for free I might accept it. Would that be stealing music?

Edited January 13, 2009 by mortify

[dairygirl4u2c]

if you would buy the song if there were no chance you could download it, then it'd be stealing to download it without paying.
if you wouldn't buy it, then it's not stealing. in my opinion.
the person making the song isn't being affected, so there's really no harm.
this involves a great deal of self-honesty though. it's a moral battle in itself, can make you grow through the process of self evaluation.

"It really is not a complex problem: either data-sharing is stealing or it isn't. I say it isn't. If I was somehow persuaded that it is, then I would compare it to the variations of theft that moral theologians regard as venial. "

besides not liking it when folks talk in these sorts of words (most things are not simple, andor usually when they say this, it's not true), i think you opened a can of worms by your answer.
first, you eventually did answer the question the same way i did above, but not in the post where you posted this. the only thing you did post was something like "it's not stealing cause it's not, cause i'm just copying something, not taking it", or something to that effect. things that could have lots of holes put into it.
second, most people haven't gotten to the point of realizing what i stated at the onset of this post and you later stated, and esepcially given that you didn't even address the issues very well at first, you're just alienating people.

Edited January 13, 2009 by dairygirl4u2c

[dairygirl4u2c]

[quote name='Dust's Sister' post='1749819' date='Jan 12 2009, 09:55 PM']Here's another one for you, How about buying used cd's? I don't know if buying used cd's like lets say from Half Price books --- Do the artists get credit there still for another sale?[/quote]

the original song was bought though.
thta's like, if you buy a book, or anything, the original book was bought, and can be sold. legit.

with downloading, there was no original purchasing.
true, there's copying merely from an original, but eveyrone nows you cant just copy books or etc without it being immoral and illegal.

[T-Bone _]

[quote name='Dust's Sister' post='1749819' date='Jan 12 2009, 06:55 PM']Here's another one for you, How about buying used cd's? I don't know if buying used cd's like lets say from Half Price books --- Do the artists get credit there still for another sale?[/quote]

Not even close to the same as file [s]sharing[/s] theft.

It's like a used book. The royalty on the license has already been paid. This is a legitimate copy--not a stolen one.

[dairygirl4u2c]

a problem intuitively with my logic, is that it should be okay to copy a book in its entirety if you weren't gonna buy it anyway.
i'd tend to think that wrong, but, on second thought, i don't think it would be.

it does still involve a hefty deal of self honesty though.