Latin Mass

[Apotheoun]

[quote name='Resurrexi' post='1794771' date='Mar 1 2009, 08:36 PM']Also, I don't see what place the Memorial Acclamation has in the Anglican Use liturgy... or the Offertory prayers invented in 1969...[/quote]
It does seem to be a bit of a hodgepodge when it comes to some things.

[rkwright]

Just wondering... are there special seminaries for priests wanting to celebrate the Anglican use mass?

Where did you find that Church Apo? I'm in San Antonio often and would love to stop by it.

[dominicansoul]

Mother Angelica's nuns are at this parish...founding a monastery there...

[Apotheoun]

[quote name='rkwright' post='1794793' date='Mar 1 2009, 08:53 PM']Where did you find that Church Apo? I'm in San Antonio often and would love to stop by it.[/quote]
I did a Google search for Pastoral Provision parishes, which gave me the site linked below:

[url="http://www.pastoralprovision.org/"][u]Pastoral Provision[/u][/url]

[Slappo]

One of my friends has a bumper sticker saying
"Why go ordinary when you can go [i]extraordinary[/i]?"

That being said, I prefer the Novus Ordo mass, but there are things that I think are lacking in it. The 1962 missal is beautiful and I think the Novus Ordo would have a lot to gain by adapting things that used to be done. I went to an extraordinary form today for mass though.

[TeresaBenedicta]

Hmm. I have different experiences of worship in both forms. In the extraordinary form, I very much feel 'lifted up' in worship. It requires a higher level of concentration, I think. Because the ordinary form is so familiar to me, it requires a different type of concentration. I'm not sure how to explain the difference... I think with the ordinary form, I'm able to unite myself to the individual prayers much easier, but with the extraordinary form, obviously it's difficult to unite myself with the individual prayers, but it's much easier to see the entire Mass as a prayer.

As to which I prefer? I like both. I also like the N.O. in Latin. I have the hardest time concentrating during irreverent Masses.

[puellapaschalis]

[quote name='TeresaBenedicta' post='1794844' date='Mar 2 2009, 06:51 AM']Hmm. I have different experiences of worship in both forms. In the extraordinary form, I very much feel 'lifted up' in worship. It requires a higher level of concentration, I think. Because the ordinary form is so familiar to me, it requires a different type of concentration. I'm not sure how to explain the difference... I think with the ordinary form, I'm able to unite myself to the individual prayers much easier, but with the extraordinary form, obviously it's difficult to unite myself with the individual prayers, but it's much easier to see the entire Mass as a prayer.

As to which I prefer? I like both. I also like the N.O. in Latin. I have the hardest time concentrating during irreverent Masses.[/quote]

That's so interesting to hear! I grew up with the NO and now find it much more "demanding" "intellectually" than the usus antiquor - which I've only really been familiar with for about a year or so. At the UA I can just "let go" and pray - although seeing as the structure of the NO is relatively similar, my years of exclusive NO attendance may be helping with that.

[mortify]

[quote name='RemnantRules' post='1794593' date='Mar 1 2009, 10:04 PM']Jesus didn't have the Last Supper extraordinary style.[/quote]

We tend to forget the reason why Jesus celebrated in a house was because the Jews rejected Him. Had they accepted Him as Messiah He probably would have celebrated in the Temple, on the golden altar His Father prescribed to be built. I imagine His celebration would have been much closer to a Solemn Papal Mass, than some of these Novus Ordo Churches that try to mimic the historical last supper.

But God knows best.

Edited March 2, 2009 by mortify

[mortify]

Personally I would not remain in a parish that did not offer the reverence our Lord deserves, unless it was the only parish available. For me to stay would only encourage irreverence. For this reason I attend the traditionally minded Novus Ordo parishes and Tridentine Masses.

To say "The Eucharist is present" and ignore the problems just doesn't cut it.

Edited March 2, 2009 by mortify

[Church Punk]

I perfer the extraordinary mass to most ordinary. Although if the ordinary is done well, with chant and held sacred, it can be just as good.

[princessgianna]

I prefer the Latin Mass over Novus Ordo mass however I am not opposed to going.

[RemnantRules]

[quote name='HisChildForever' post='1794638' date='Mar 1 2009, 09:32 PM']I think he was insinuating that some Masses he has been to were questionable (i.e. liturgical abuse).[/quote]



But never with a Latin Mass. That is one def. positive for Latin Mass is you hardly ever hear of any problems liturgically with the Latin Mass.

[Archaeology cat]

I've never been to a TLM, as there isn't one available in my diocese. However, the Cathedral has a Latin NO Mass which I have attended on occasion. It's beautiful.

[piano_freak184]

[quote name='HisChildForever' post='1794583' date='Mar 1 2009, 08:54 PM']I have never been to Mass in Latin - extraordinary or ordinary. I guess some people have their preferences, but the Eucharist is the Eucharist.[/quote]
What's the difference between extroardinary or ordinary? Latin Mass is NOT boring! It's very interesting. In my opinion.

[curtins]

"'The Mass is long,' you say, and I reply: 'Because your love is short'"

-St. Josemaria Escriva
The Way No. 529

[TotusTuusMaria]

Love the EF. Would probably attend it every week if it were at a closer distance.

I attend the OF in English though as it is close by and the Mass my family attends.

mass.

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='RemnantRules' post='1795077' date='Mar 2 2009, 10:19 AM']

But never with a Latin Mass. That is one def. positive for Latin Mass is you hardly ever hear of any problems liturgically with the Latin Mass.[/quote]
Just throwing this out there, but I'd argue that it's because it's far less common, and generally only performed by priests less tolerant of today's culture.

[Resurrexi]

I wouldn't say that the EF is normally mainly said by priests less tolerant of today's culture, unless you mean the sinful aspects. I would argue that the lack of liturgical abuses is due to the fact that there are next to no options in the EF. Also, the fact that it is in Latin makes it practically impossible to improvise. And what is probably the largest factor is that those priests who celebrate the EF more than likely have a low tolerance for liturgical abuse in any Rite and are probably saying the EF in order to get away from the irreverence and liturgical abuse often found in the OF.

Edited March 3, 2009 by Resurrexi

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='Resurrexi' post='1795633' date='Mar 2 2009, 08:20 PM']I wouldn't say that the EF is normally mainly said by priests less tolerant of today's culture, unless you mean the sinful aspects. I would argue that the lack of liturgical abuses is due to the fact that there are next to no options in the EF. Also, the fact that it is in Latin makes it practically impossible to improvise. And what is probably the largest factor is that those priests who celebrate the EF more than likely have a low tolerance for liturgical abuse in any Rite and are probably saying the EF in order to get away from the irreverence and liturgical abuse often found in the OF.[/quote]
SOrry, should have been more clear. I meant relativistic culture, not culture in general.

I'm scatterbrained now.

So more or less what you said...

[Mr.Cat]

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I go to the Extraordinary Form ([i]Missal of Blessed Pope John XXIII[/i]) in my area; it is been hosted by the Diocese Latin Mass Community, whom keep very close ties with the Bishop. Our new Bishop has come to visit us and hopes to visit us sometime during [b]Lent[/b] and [b]Advent[/b] on a regular basis. From what I understand our Bishop is very impressed with the Latin Mass Community, in fact it appears he refers people here when they have certain “[i]issues[/i]” with the Ordinary Form. Sunday mass attendance has seemingly increased, and there are in fact a lot of children/teenagers and young people there. They are all really friendly people, [i]a lot of cute girls go there too[/i], including Dust’s Sister since I have been taking her there.

The Extraordinary Form ([i]Missal of Blessed Pope John XXIII[/i]) in my area is said by Father Terra of the FSSP, stationed in Dallas, Texas. Father Terra is one of the few Priests I know who frequently and adamantly opposes Direct Abortion on the pulpit and in his life as a Priest. Also one of the fewer Priests who I have heard condemn from the pulpit pornography, and related sins. He is the only Priest I have heard speak about the grave dangers of socialism and communism in the modern world, Free Masonry, and preaches the message of Our Lady of Fatima. Quite honestly, I have heard him do sermons on some quite remarkable subjects, even one I had never even considered of gluttony, which was absolutely remarkable. He is also a very stern confessor, I sweat bullets every time I go to see him. He hears confessions for nearly thirty minutes before and after Mass.

[b]Benediction of the Blessed Sacrament every First Sunday![/b]

Its adorable watching him, come out of the confessional or after mass down the altar, walking along and seeing a little kid at [b]warp factor eight[/b] "[i]glomp[/i]" into him. He even blesses the children/babies as he walks by the altar or pews. Which honestly the first time I heard him preach, in his sermon, this little phrase he repeats sums him up. “[i]God does not demand much of us, He demands everything of us.[/i]”

We, [i]Dust’s Sister and I[/i], gave her brother (DuSt) a calendar from the Latin Mass Community, since the one from the dioceses we are not pleased with. We tried explaining it to him but he said the calendar wasn’t in Latin, so he didn’t believe us.

Edited March 3, 2009 by Mr.CatholicCat