Pic Of Sr. Rosalind In New Veil

[Gemma]

[quote name='DameAgnes' post='1799842' date='Mar 7 2009, 04:56 PM']I know that Third Order Franciscans (SFO) in my area wear a brown tunic to their meetings and private SFO liturgies but not out in public or apostolates.

I know Benedictine Oblates and THird Order DOminicans can be buried in monastic robes.

And I know a Benedictine Oblate who goes on retreat to a monastery and then wears a very short black tunic over her skirt or slacks, that has a hood. She wears this while on retreat, only - or at Adoration in her parish - and then mostly because the hood cuts off her peripheral vision and thus keeps her focused on the holy Eucharist.

This seems sane and okay to me. IF she was running around with the tunic all the time, or at mass every week, I would think she was making a bit of a show of herself.

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With all due respect to everybody, Sr. Rosalind was given the postulant garb ("habit" is not an appropriate term in this case) in an official ceremony. She is considered a postulant in her own order by the archdiocese. If nobody believes me, have the charity of calling the chancery and verifying what I've just said. She can't go any further in her training due to the lack of an archbishop. There's a lot of other things on hold in the archdiocese, also, for lack of an archbishop.

If there are any inquirers/aspirants who wish to have more information, please contact her directly. Cloister Outreach is not her intermediary. I simply had a foundress-to-foundress chat with her.

Blessings,
Gemma

[Nunsense]

[quote name='Gemma' post='1800363' date='Mar 8 2009, 05:05 AM']With all due respect to everybody, Sr. Rosalind was given the postulant garb ("habit" is not an appropriate term in this case) in an official ceremony. She is considered a postulant in her own order by the archdiocese. If nobody believes me, have the charity of calling the chancery and verifying what I've just said. She can't go any further in her training due to the lack of an archbishop. There's a lot of other things on hold in the archdiocese, also, for lack of an archbishop.

If there are any inquirers/aspirants who wish to have more information, please contact her directly. Cloister Outreach is not her intermediary. I simply had a foundress-to-foundress chat with her.

Blessings,
Gemma[/quote]

I think we are all praying and hoping for the best for Sr Rosalind, but the fascination with habits makes this topic something we all have an opinion about! This makes for a lively and stimulating discussion - but not everyone is going to agree on certain issues. I don't personally see any lack of charity here, just interest and opinions.

As for the "training" you spoke about - the Archbishop has nothing to do with this, and she certainly can proceed with religious direction and formation under another community or spiritual director (and probably has already started this) even before he comes. As a lay person who has never had any religious formation herself, this seems like a vital first step for her (in my opinion).

One of the things that I found lacking when I was there, was any kind of religious formation, and we discussed this -- but before I left, she was consulting with the Vicar for Religious about this and with other communities - so I am sure that she has things in place now. As you know well, Gemma, starting a new community is a process that involves a lot of patience and perseverance - nothing is going to happen overnight.

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[DameAgnes]

Gemma I wasn't criticising at all.

I was talking about what I knew of third order folk, of which I believe Rosalind is not one.

[sistersintigo]

[quote name='Gemma' date='04 March 2009 - 09:30 AM' timestamp='1236173450' post='1797157']
Looks like the St. Cecilia Dominicans' (can anyone tell me what's in the background?). Scroll down.

[url="http://www.stmarysstillwater.org/"]http://www.stmarysstillwater.org/[/url]

Blessings,
Gemma
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What has this link to do with Rosalind Moss? The link works, but I don't see her picture.

[tnavarro61]

[quote name='sistersintigo' date='10 March 2010 - 07:04 AM' timestamp='1268172271' post='2069780']
What has this link to do with Rosalind Moss? The link works, but I don't see her picture.
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it's been s year since the link was posted so i suppose it has been removed. oh!

[Indwelling Trinity]

There is no canon law forbidding the wearing of Habits. But the Local ordianary or confessor etc.. can preclude one from doing so. At which point obedience is best. But when questioned by others we need to be open that one s just an association of the faithful, or ones personal status in the church etc...

Some orders will not allow third order members to wear a habit. A few out there, mostly benedictines occasianally allow some form of a modified habit if one is in vows.

I think we get too caught up in legalism here and forget the spirit of the law. It reminds me of the apostles all indignified about others preaching in Jesus' name. What did Jesus do? He scolded them and said to the effect whoever is not against us is for us.... Paraphrased.

Some of us get indignant if we think someone else is cutting into our pie rather than rejoicing that there are others out there who too would like to live a life dedicated to Christ with a visible witness.

Also there is a difference between popular devotion and misrepresentation. In Europe and third world countries it is not uncommon for people to don habits out of devotion. The church does nothing to stop it rather encourages their piety.

Their are also some of us in Vows who have been given permission by their Bishop, Pastor and superiors to wear the habit. When i vowed myself as a hermit, My vows were made publically,during holy mass in front of the local community and my habit was blessed on th altar. I wear a full habit even though I chose not to be a diocesan hermit.

Diocesan hermits are only one expression of the eremitical life. and are a beautiful, valid and efficacious witness of the kingdom.

Personally, I never felt called to be a diocesan hermit but always have known myself to be a religious connected to a Carmelite community. I have never claimed to be a diocesan hermit nor have i ever desired to use it as a stepping stone to something else. Yet even though I am not a Diocesan hermit, it does not preclude me from being a valid hermit.

There are those out there who want to so codify things that they unwittingly crush the spirit and in fact discourage others from even trying. The law is only part of the whole. The Spirit too counts for much.

What is most important is to keep Jesus as our focus. If exterior trappings help us as sacramentals to live a more devoted life.... Then what is the problem? I Identify as Carmelite... end of story. I do not wear the exact habit of either branch but it still is recognizably Carmelite and neither my Pastor, Carmelite Father Confessor who also is Carmelite, Prioress who is a Carmelite of Many years or former Bishop....(He is now retired.) object to this.

I suggest that if we have permission... let it rest.

Tenderly Indwelling Trinity

Edited March 10, 2010 by Indwelling Trinity