ayed Posted March 30, 2004 Author Posted March 30, 2004 thank you very much I will be back soon to answer Mr.Winchester's questions so as not to kill me Thank you Ayed
ayed Posted March 30, 2004 Author Posted March 30, 2004 In The name of Allah , the Most gracious , the Most merciful . Praise and thanks be to Allah, our Supreme God . -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Special thank to all Moderators who brought back our topic. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mr.Theoketoes :”…Mary was made by God sinless so that her placenta would be worthy of God…” (Ayed): Mr.Theoketoes, since Allah made Mary , then why did He get into her womb?Allah is above what is said. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- My topic is addressed at Catholic Denomination not at Mr.Winchester,personally. I do not know his faction so far. I just wonder why has he attacked me, personally. Of his own volition , he commented and criticised me .Have I forced him to do so? The Forum”Debate Table” is not a Bodily-Wrestling Arena for one to roll up his sleeves , to ride a horse and to fight one without justifications.The Debate Table is a Mentally-Wrestling Arena where one can give concessions and take ..not defend and retreat.If one still beats around the bush and does not go straight to facts and findings, then he does lie on his own self before he lies on other’s .I am sure that reality often is offending .When would that be? When the fact itself is about to stripe him off his pseudo mask . If I jumped over decorum barriers, then notify me, Phatmassers ,so as to take the required steps.Making a mistake is not a mistake but the real mistake is the continuity of making that mistake itself . According to Mr.Winchester’s advice , he does not want me to say: “Thank you very much” or “accept my regards” or “see you again” Does he want me to say: “have a sad day “or “have a wicked future” or “have a fatal accident” , I Just wonder!? Now, what should I say ? I will not say anything.. But , My fingertips will type down for all of you including Mr.Winchester: “Thank you very much for spending your valuable times and money to keep in touch with each other” Ayed
ayed Posted March 30, 2004 Author Posted March 30, 2004 In The name of Allah , the Most gracious , the Most merciful . Praise and thanks be to Allah, our Supreme God . -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Special thank to all Moderators who brought back our topic. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mr.Theoketoes :”…Mary was made by God sinless so that her placenta would be worthy of God…” (Ayed): Mr.Theoketoes, since Allah made Mary , then why did He get into her womb?Allah is above what is said. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- My topic is addressed at Catholic Denomination not at Mr.Winchester,personally. I do not know his faction so far. I just wonder why has he attacked me, personally. Of his own volition , he commented and criticised me .Have I forced him to do so? The Forum”Debate Table” is not a Bodily-Wrestling Arena for one to roll up his sleeves , to ride a horse and to fight one without justifications.The Debate Table is a Mentally-Wrestling Arena where one can give concessions and take ..not defend and retreat.If one still beats around the bush and does not go straight to facts and findings, then he does lie on his own self before he lies on other’s .I am sure that reality often is offending .When would that be? When the fact itself is about to stripe him off his pseudo mask . If I jumped over decorum barriers, then notify me, Phatmassers ,so as to take the required steps.Making a mistake is not a mistake but the real mistake is the continuity of making that mistake itself . According to Mr.Winchester’s advice , he does not want me to say: “Thank you very much” or “accept my regards” or “see you again” Does he want me to say: “have a sad day “or “have a wicked future” or “have a fatal accident” , I Just wonder!? Now, what should I say ? I will not say anything.. But , My fingertips will type down the following: “Thank you very much for spending your valuable times and money to keep in touch with each other” Ayed
phatcatholic Posted March 31, 2004 Posted March 31, 2004 ayed, i think the objection on our part is that we have answered these questions many times before, yet you seem to repeat them again and again. it makes us wonder why you continue to ask them. --are you reading our posts? --do you not understand them? --are you trying to understand them? --is there a language barrier that is making this more difficult? those are some of the questions that we ask ourselves. because of the repitition on your part, we can get a little impatient at times, and even take your questions offensively. i hope that you will forgive us for that. if i could give some friendly advice, i would suggest doing some research on a subject before you ask the question. the answers to all of your questions are easy to find. go [b][url="http://catholic.com/"]here[/url][/b] or check out our [b][url="http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showforum=12"]reference section[/url][/b] here at phatmass. this will make your questions more informed, and we won't have to repeat ourselves as much. also, make sure you understand a post before you respond to it, and let us know if we need to define a word or explain a concept that we have used. it seems that alot of times you get the wrong idea about what we type, so that may help. as long as you are willing to learn, we are willing to help you. maybe those suggestions will make our discussions with you more effective. pax christi, phatcatholic
Winchester Posted April 2, 2004 Posted April 2, 2004 Donna, Beware falling into my cynicism...although I hope it's insightful cynicism.
MagiDragon Posted April 3, 2004 Posted April 3, 2004 Ayed: It may help if you view Jesus as The Word. We believe that Jesus is the Word of God. Think of it as the command of a king: if the king sends his word to you in writing, you must obey. if you obey the word, you obey the king. if on the other hand you take the letter sent by the king and burn it, you are insulting the king. Peace, may God bless you in the search for truth, and may we learn from our encounter. MagiDragon
GrapeRoad Posted April 3, 2004 Posted April 3, 2004 Has anyone read C.S. Lewis' version of it? I wish I still had it with me... It was something like this: God, being before time, cannot, therefore, be affected by time. If he were to send himself into time, he would still be outside of time, and still present in all times, even while he dwelt on this Earth as man. It made sense to me. Sensical, also, was his explaination of trinity. It was like this: Now, it has been said, that God is love. Well, love always has to have a giver, and a receiver. Thus, God must have at least two persons in Him. There, we have the father, and the son. Well, love always has a product, also. That's what the holy spirit is. Now, God has always existed. Therefore, all three had existed at the very beginning of time. So, what has been defined was a Three-personed being who has alwas existed, and created this world. God. C.S. Lewis isn't Catholic, I hope neither of those were crazy heresies...
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