Hillary Clinton

[TotusTuusMaria]

Ok so I just got off the phone with a friend who shared this story with me and then I came here to see if you guys had posted on it.

You had.

When he was telling me about it I got chills.

The Bascilica was closed. Our Lady's image was taken down and Hilary Clinton stared at it face to face. This is HUGE. And she places flowers in front of it before the idiotic statement, "Who painted it?"

She just doesn't get it. And this all before she goes to receive an award from Planned Parenthood.

It is far too eerie. Our Lady, through that living image, came down and stared Hilary Clinton in the eyes as Patroness of the Unborn before she went to receive that death award.

Hilary Clinton has no idea who she is dealing with. lol @ placed flowers in front of the image.

[Winchester]

She's not Catholic. She can't be expected to know these things. Ask her about something from her religion, something about the Zionist conspiracy or how best to cheat your employees out of just wages.

[Archaeology cat]

[quote name='homeschoolmom' post='1821006' date='Mar 31 2009, 12:09 PM']Honestly, I don't think too much of it. When I was younger and Protestanter, I was in Mexico and visited the Bascilica. Had I not been prepped, I could see myself saying the same thing. The point is, though, she should have been prepped by someone.[/quote]
Oh yeah, I agree. I certainly understand that this isn't common knowledge to non-Catholics. I had never really encountered info about it before converting. Or if I did, I forgot about it. Just seems like her staff should have prepped her, IMHO. Though, of course, we all misspeak at one time or another.

[cmotherofpirl]

We are all quite happy she came face to face with a painting by a saint, but I think the general point is her staff is doing a lousy job of preparing her for her jaunts, just as they did a terrible job dealing with the gifts for the Brits.

[Vincent Vega]

[quote name='Madame Vengier' post='1820992' date='Mar 31 2009, 06:14 AM']Disturbing enough that she deserves to be called "stupid" for it?[/quote]
"Stupid is as stupid does, ma'am."

[CatherineM]

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1821062' date='Mar 31 2009, 10:03 AM']We are all quite happy she came face to face with a painting by a saint, but I think the general point is her staff is doing a lousy job of preparing her for her jaunts, just as they did a terrible job dealing with the gifts for the Brits.[/quote]

That was my point as well that either her staff was unprepared, or she didn't bother to listen to them. The first time I went to the Shrine, I saw an elderly woman on her knees, and ran over to help her up. I got bopped, but was with my Godmother who explained that it is an act of piety to approach on your knees. At least it was 30+ years ago. I, however, was just a stupid teenager, not a representative of the US Government with an entire posse.

If she made a similar goof in a Muslim or Jewish Temple, it would be an international incident. If she went around taking prayers out of the Wailing Wall and reading them, or went into a Mosque in Yemen or Saudi Arabia in her shoes and started shaking mens' hands, we would probably have to pay ransom or something to get her back.

I'm certainly grateful she went to the Shrine, and hope that Our Lady will touch her heart. If anyone can convert her, those are the best hands.

[kafka]

[quote name='TotusTuusMaria' post='1821012' date='Mar 31 2009, 07:39 AM']The Bascilica was closed. Our Lady's image was taken down and Hilary Clinton stared at it face to face.[/quote]
I get the sense it wasnt a PR visit. Maybe perhaps out of curiosity?

[lost_in_this_world]

[quote name='Madame Vengier' post='1820992' date='Mar 31 2009, 07:14 AM']Disturbing enough that she deserves to be called "stupid" for it? Excuse me, but weren't you the one lecturing me in another thread about charity? But maybe that only applies to people who are already Catholic and/or new converts.[/quote]


if you are referring to the topic's title, that is where i wrote stupidity yes. and i stand by it. i didn't necessarily call her stupid but she did a stupid act. can i not call her out on that one? everybody else calls everybody out on acts of stupidity. u want us on this post to treat her nicely but yet after reading ur posts you are treating us the way we are treating her. is that right? maybe they arent meant this way but ur posts are coming off with an attitude at least to me anyway.


and i dont lecture, i voice my opinion.

[add]

[quote]QUOTE (apparently @ Mar 31 2009, 07:23 AM) *
"Who painted it?" Hillary cannot possibly be so ignorant can she?" This had to have been a calculated statement. [/quote]
[quote name='Madame Vengier' post='1821001' date='Mar 31 2009, 07:33 AM']Ya'll are really something.[/quote]

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Heaven knows Hillary not a catholic and is ignorant about said beliefs, but I find it hard to believe her entourage hadn’t explained in detail what the image of the Virgin of Guadalupe inside the Basilica de Guadalupe represented.
Perhaps Secretary of State Hillary Clinton action was deliberate to appease her base and the Planned Parenthood Federation of America – for her gala event in Houston, Texas to receive the Margaret Sanger Award, the following day.

Edited March 31, 2009 by apparently

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='CatherineM' post='1821070' date='Mar 31 2009, 12:29 PM']If she made a similar goof in a Muslim or Jewish Temple, it would be an international incident. If she went around taking prayers out of the Wailing Wall and reading them, or went into a Mosque in Yemen or Saudi Arabia in her shoes and started shaking mens' hands, we would probably have to pay ransom or something to get her back.[/quote]
are ya sure about the ransom, I mean the paying part...

[Madame Vengier]

[quote name='lost_in_this_world' post='1821147' date='Mar 31 2009, 04:13 PM']if you are referring to the topic's title, that is where i wrote stupidity yes. and i stand by it. i didn't necessarily call her stupid but she did a stupid act. can i not call her out on that one?[/quote]

She is corrupt to the core and lives her life in a moral cesspool. There plenty to call her out on. But not this, no. AT LEAST SHE WAS THERE.

[CatherineM]

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1821294' date='Mar 31 2009, 06:35 PM']are ya sure about the ransom, I mean the paying part...[/quote]

Hey, I'm always good for a quarter for important collections.

[Madame Vengier]

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1821062' date='Mar 31 2009, 12:03 PM']We are all quite happy she came face to face with a painting by a saint, but I think the general point is her staff is doing a lousy job of preparing her for her jaunts, just as they did a terrible job dealing with the gifts for the Brits.[/quote]

That's fine and in any other case I would steadfastly agree. But I'm having a big problem with Catholics making fun of a woman for visiting a Basilica. It wasn't an official visit and it had nothing to do with her political role. So she messed up. Whoopty-do.

[Vincent Vega]

[quote name='Madame Vengier' post='1821399' date='Mar 31 2009, 08:33 PM']It wasn't an official visit and it had nothing to do with her political role.[/quote]
EVERYTHING a politician does, especially one with as prolific as Mrs. Clinton, has to do with his political role. A politician of her caliber doesn't do anything that doesn't directly relate to his political career.

[Veridicus]

[quote name='apparently' post='1821270' date='Mar 31 2009, 05:58 PM']Perhaps Secretary of State Hillary Clinton action was deliberate to appease her base and the Planned Parenthood Federation of America – for her gala event in Houston, Texas to receive the Margaret Sanger Award, the following day.[/quote]

Nothing says "budding Marian devotion" like a Margaret Sanger Award...

[Saint Therese]

OL of Guadelupe is Patroness of the Unborn.
Hillary looks at the tilma one day and recieves the Sanger award the next.
The more I think about it, the more I think it was deliberate.

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='Saint Therese' post='1821541' date='Mar 31 2009, 10:43 PM']OL of Guadelupe is Patroness of the Unborn.
Hillary looks at the tilma one day and recieves the Sanger award the next.
The more I think about it, the more I think it was deliberate.[/quote]
I'm not going to speculate, but it is a revolting coincidence.

[Madame Vengier]

[quote name='USAirwaysIHS' post='1821474' date='Mar 31 2009, 11:39 PM']EVERYTHING a politician does, especially one with as prolific as Mrs. Clinton, has to do with his political role. A politician of her caliber doesn't do anything that doesn't directly relate to his political career.[/quote]


That doesn't excuse the fact that numerous Catholics in this thread are taking great joy in mocking and deriding someone for what may have been an honest mistake, while in other threads lecturing others about Christian charity and compassion. It seems to send the message that charity and compassion are only for those you feel deserve it.

[VoTeckam]

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[VoTeckam]

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Edited April 1, 2009 by VoTeckam