Keep Your Clothes On Ladies

[Lil Red]

+J.M.J.+
[url="http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/spress/2009/04/19/keep-your-clothes-on-ladies/#more-108290"]From Big Hollywood[/url] by Skip Press. a snippet of the article:
in it he talks about the stars who have posed for different men's magazines and the esteem he held for them before and after they posed.
[quote]It seems that what too many of these women fail to see when they pose for these photos is that they have crossed the line from human to commodity.[/quote]

[quote]I love seeing a beautiful nude woman, but preferably if she’s someone I’m in love with, and we’re alone. If she were mine, I wouldn’t particularly want her displaying it all for the world to see. I wouldn’t hold it against her, I guess, but in my years of experience of knowing people involved in media nudity, the end result is usually far different than what they expected. When you become an object in people’s minds, you’re a commodity, the kind of thing that often ends up in a trash dump.

Ultimately, people only give you the respect you demand and deserve. I wonder what would happen if the majority of women simply stopped taking their clothes off except for men who loved and treasured them? How different of a world would it be?[/quote]

[Ash Wednesday]

Posing for Playboy usually means you're in the last dying gasps of your career, and it usually proves to be the nail on the coffin. Look at Debbie Gibson. Sure did a great job for her, didn't it? Lindsay Lohan is probably next.

[VoTeckam]

I think this is another example of people being treated exactly how they ask to be treated. If these women treated themselves with respect others would follow.

[dominicansoul]

[quote]I love seeing a beautiful nude woman, but preferably if she’s someone I’m in love with, and we’re alone.[/quote]

how 'bout someone you're MARRIED to?

[StColette]

[quote name='dominicansoul' post='1841341' date='Apr 20 2009, 11:30 AM']how 'bout someone you're MARRIED to?[/quote]

I believe that's his point. He is married and even expresses so in the full article.

[littleflower+JMJ]

[quote name='dominicansoul' post='1841341' date='Apr 20 2009, 11:30 AM']how 'bout someone you're MARRIED to?[/quote]

Yeah, I"m pretty sure thats what he meant if you read the whole article.

[KnightofChrist]

[quote name='Ash Wednesday' post='1841333' date='Apr 20 2009, 11:06 AM']Posing for Playboy usually means you're in the last dying gasps of your career, and it usually proves to be the nail on the coffin. Look at Debbie Gibson. Sure did a great job for her, didn't it? Lindsay Lohan is probably next.[/quote]

Who?

[Brother Adam]

On a separately related note - has anyone heard of "SAA" - sex-hololics anonymous. It was recommended to me to recommend to parishioners who need help with addictions and destructive sinful behavior. Wondering if anyone knew if it was a good organization to send Catholics too in addition to from spiritual direction and confession...thanks.

[rose wrought of iron]

Good article.

Modesty is key.

[sarcasmguy126]

yes, modesty is VERY important. if girls are dressed immodestly (i.e. at school, the mall, etc.), it becomes difficult for me to keep my eyes off of them...in a bad way. Don't attract attention to yourselves using such tactics, because then it changes the way we as young men see women we are supposed to love and respect

[farglefeezlebut]

[quote name='VoTeckam' post='1841339' date='Apr 20 2009, 05:22 PM']I think this is another example of people being treated exactly how they ask to be treated. If these women treated themselves with respect others would follow.[/quote]

It's a chicken and egg situation. If we lived in a world where the human body was treated as the sacred gift it is, andwomen were treated with respect, these women wouldn't pose.

Also, it's unfair to condemn the women in the photos, without equally condemning the people who take the photos and the people who buy th magazines.

[CatherineM]

[quote name='Brother Adam' post='1841668' date='Apr 20 2009, 05:47 PM']On a separately related note - has anyone heard of "SAA" - sex-hololics anonymous. It was recommended to me to recommend to parishioners who need help with addictions and destructive sinful behavior. Wondering if anyone knew if it was a good organization to send Catholics too in addition to from spiritual direction and confession...thanks.[/quote]

I had some contact with Incest Survivors Anonymous because of a client, and I understand that several of them also belonged to Sex Addict Anonymous too. So much of it depends on the group. It's like AA in that there are healthy groups, and there are dysfunctional groups. Most groups have a public contact liaison, and I would recommend talking to them, and gauging your sense of how healthy they seem. There was a Courage group in St. Pete that got folded by the bishop when he found out the leader was using it as a dating service. You can tell alot by how healthy the leadership of the group seems.

[Brother Adam]

Okay, thanks for the heads up, now I hear that there are actually two groups - SA and SAA. Is there a just Catholic one anyone knows about? Since putting a Lighthouse CD on the pornography plague in our parish gathering area a couple of men have come to Father that they need assistance. I've never heard of any of these groups.

[rose wrought of iron]

[quote name='sarcasmguy126' post='1841687' date='Apr 20 2009, 06:57 PM']yes, modesty is VERY important. if girls are dressed immodestly (i.e. at school, the mall, etc.), it becomes difficult for me to keep my eyes off of them...in a bad way. Don't attract attention to yourselves using such tactics, because then it changes the way we as young men see women we are supposed to love and respect[/quote]

I think that one of the problems (aside from the fact that the media makes such a big deal about trends and basically selling yourself) is that guys give so much attention to those kinds of girls and not as much to the modestly dressed girls. I've been told by many girls (including my own cousin, which really upsets me) that the reason they act/dress the way they do is because guys gave them no attention when they were being modest, and they believe that negative attention is better than none, which is sad.

I myself used to have issues like that, but I didn't let it get to the point of dressing/acting like that. It took me a while to figure out that women aren't meant to be like that, and that it's far better to be ignored but respected than given attention to and treated as a thing.

As a guy, something you could do is to just walk up to random girls and thank them for being modest - you have no idea how big an impact that will make. That's what happened in my case - best friend told me how big a deal it was to him that he was able to see me as a person and not an object.

[Brother Adam]

[quote name='sarcasmguy126' post='1841687' date='Apr 20 2009, 07:57 PM']yes, modesty is VERY important. if girls are dressed immodestly (i.e. at school, the mall, etc.), it becomes difficult for me to keep my eyes off of them...in a bad way. Don't attract attention to yourselves using such tactics, because then it changes the way we as young men see women we are supposed to love and respect[/quote]

And at the same time it is not their responsibility to keep track of what goes on in your head. You have as much responsibility not to look, but to pray for people who dress immodestly, and not to sin against them.