WisdomSeeker Posted June 9, 2009 Posted June 9, 2009 [quote name='InHisLove726' post='1886961' date='Jun 9 2009, 08:40 AM']Which one is it? I have a friend who entered in the Quidenham monastery out in Norfolk, and she'll be made a novice this July! She entered in January, and they are taking a vote on whether or not she will be allowed to stay. I have another friend in England who is discerning with the same order and she is doing a 3 week live-in as we speak. [/quote] It is the Ware Carmel at Ware Park, Ware, Herts. I am in contact via email at the moment with one of the sisters there and I am in the process of finding out about the buses to get there
Hilde Posted June 9, 2009 Posted June 9, 2009 That's one of those orders I haven't looked into yet, because they're not nearby( they live very far north in Norway. They're also very strict, with fencing ). But I'm definitely interested.
WisdomSeeker Posted June 9, 2009 Posted June 9, 2009 [quote name='Hilde' post='1887026' date='Jun 9 2009, 03:15 PM']That's one of those orders I haven't looked into yet, because they're not nearby( they live very far north in Norway. They're also very strict, with fencing ). But I'm definitely interested.[/quote] I've seen a picture of the carmel and it is set in lovely countryside. According to the info that I was sent the community is only 14 strong, with 2 of the 14 in formation.
Hilde Posted June 9, 2009 Posted June 9, 2009 One more is professed now. That makes them 13 with eternal vows and a novice. I wasn't there when it happened, but I have someone I know in Oslo who is having her eternal vows this fall if I remember right. So that will be my first time witnessing that. Are all carmelites so supercontemplative? I have the feeling something apostolic, or a combination is the thing for me. But I haven't really tried it out yet.
WisdomSeeker Posted June 9, 2009 Posted June 9, 2009 [quote name='Hilde' post='1887067' date='Jun 9 2009, 04:51 PM']One more is professed now. That makes them 13 with eternal vows and a novice. I wasn't there when it happened, but I have someone I know in Oslo who is having her eternal vows this fall if I remember right. So that will be my first time witnessing that. Are all carmelites so supercontemplative? I have the feeling something apostolic, or a combination is the thing for me. But I haven't really tried it out yet.[/quote] I think it all depends on wether they are enclosed or semi-cloisted/active. My knowledge is rather limited on this aspect, I'm still finding all of this out.
VeniteAdoremus Posted June 9, 2009 Posted June 9, 2009 [quote name='Hilde' post='1887067' date='Jun 9 2009, 05:51 PM']Are all carmelites so supercontemplative? I have the feeling something apostolic, or a combination is the thing for me. But I haven't really tried it out yet.[/quote] Most Carmelites are supercontemplative There are some congregations of Carmelite sisters, like the [url="http://www.carmelitedcj.org/"]Carmelites of the Divine Heart of Jesus[/url] and the [url="http://www.carmel-msh.org/"]Carmelites of the Sacred Heart[/url]. Don't know of any in Norway, though... (Actually, I only know one religious institution in Norway, and that's a monastery of Trappist nuns.)
TeresaBenedicta Posted June 9, 2009 Posted June 9, 2009 Hm. I have a great love for the great Carmelite saints and for Carmelite spirituality, but I don't think that I'm called in that direction.
Hilde Posted June 9, 2009 Posted June 9, 2009 I've only been visiting the apostolic Dominicans, the st.Elisabeth sisters( Both have arranged vocation weekends:)) and a short visit to the contemplative Dominicans. So I've only started out actually meeting orders and sisters. For some reason I don't think being so enclosed as the carmelites is for me, but I might be wrong.
WisdomSeeker Posted June 11, 2009 Posted June 11, 2009 [size=3]I am in contact with some other orders, the Dominicans and the Franciscan Sisters Minoress and I am hoing to visit them as well in the near future but at the moment I feel more and more drawn to the Carmelites [/size]
VeniteAdoremus Posted June 11, 2009 Posted June 11, 2009 [quote name='WisdomSeeker' post='1888359' date='Jun 11 2009, 12:14 PM'][size=3]I am in contact with some other orders, the Dominicans and the Franciscan Sisters Minoress and I am hoing to visit them as well in the near future but at the moment I feel more and more drawn to the Carmelites [/size][/quote] [url="http://www.dominicansrs.co.uk/"]http://www.dominicansrs.co.uk/[/url] Have you contacted them yet?
the lords sheep Posted June 11, 2009 Posted June 11, 2009 [quote name='Hilde' post='1887292' date='Jun 9 2009, 11:05 PM']For some reason I don't think being so enclosed as the carmelites is for me, but I might be wrong.[/quote] God calls us according to our natural desires and dispositions. If cloistered life doesn't seem like a good option to you, only consider it in as far as you'd be open to it if God brought it up (like, for example, I'm open to marriage if God brings it up... but i'm still hoping to enter the convent in the fall. ) As far as the thread goes, I once wanted to be a Carmelite of the Divine Heart of Jesus- but only superficially, because it was one of the only orders of Sisters I knew. God bless! Lauren
VeniteAdoremus Posted June 11, 2009 Posted June 11, 2009 [quote name='the lords sheep' post='1888367' date='Jun 11 2009, 02:10 PM']God calls us according to our natural desires and dispositions. If cloistered life doesn't seem like a good option to you, only consider it in as far as you'd be open to it if God brought it up (like, for example, I'm open to marriage if God brings it up... but i'm still hoping to enter the convent in the fall. ) As far as the thread goes, I once wanted to be a Carmelite of the Divine Heart of Jesus- but only superficially, because it was one of the only orders of Sisters I knew. God bless! Lauren[/quote] Two very good points.
WisdomSeeker Posted June 11, 2009 Posted June 11, 2009 [quote name='VeniteAdoremus' post='1888360' date='Jun 11 2009, 11:19 AM'][url="http://www.dominicansrs.co.uk/"]http://www.dominicansrs.co.uk/[/url] Have you contacted them yet? [/quote] The particular order I am in contact with is the 'Dominican Sisters of the English Congregation of St Catherine of Siena', I am in contact with the sister who deals with vocations.
puellapaschalis Posted June 11, 2009 Posted June 11, 2009 I have never felt any kind of desire or attraction to the Carmelite order. [size=1]But it's true![/size]
InHisLove726 Posted June 11, 2009 Posted June 11, 2009 [quote name='puellapaschalis' post='1888381' date='Jun 11 2009, 08:46 AM']I have never felt any kind of desire or attraction to the Carmelite order. [size=1]But it's true![/size][/quote] Hehe, I feel the same way about the Benedictines!
VeniteAdoremus Posted June 11, 2009 Posted June 11, 2009 [quote name='WisdomSeeker' post='1888376' date='Jun 11 2009, 02:40 PM']The particular order I am in contact with is the 'Dominican Sisters of the English Congregation of St Catherine of Siena', I am in contact with the sister who deals with vocations.[/quote] Sr. Valery? I heard she's very good.
Hilde Posted June 11, 2009 Posted June 11, 2009 We have a Dominican order of st.Catherine here. I was there for their vocation weekend. I don't know what I would do as an apostolic sister yet. I am currently on bach.theol. The reason I might be fit for a contemplative order i s because I'm calm and can be silent. But I'm not that attracted to it.
WisdomSeeker Posted June 11, 2009 Posted June 11, 2009 [quote name='VeniteAdoremus' post='1888386' date='Jun 11 2009, 03:02 PM']Sr. Valery? I heard she's very good. [/quote] Yes it is Sr.Valery She is good, she sent me some books to read recently which I thought was very nice of her. I am hoping to visit the convent in Ealing, London before the end of the year and I am hoping to visit the carmelite monasteries as well
VeniteAdoremus Posted June 12, 2009 Posted June 12, 2009 [quote name='WisdomSeeker' post='1888392' date='Jun 11 2009, 04:38 PM']Yes it is Sr.Valery She is good, she sent me some books to read recently which I thought was very nice of her. I am hoping to visit the convent in Ealing, London before the end of the year and I am hoping to visit the carmelite monasteries as well [/quote] If you can possibly make it, you should come on the John Paul II pilgrimage for the conversion of England! We walk from Ely to Walsingham from July 16-20. I don't know whether Sr. Valery will be there this year, but she's been before. There'll be several other (former) PMers attending Plus a bunch of other Dominican sisters and friars.
WisdomSeeker Posted June 12, 2009 Posted June 12, 2009 [quote name='VeniteAdoremus' post='1888655' date='Jun 12 2009, 02:38 AM']If you can possibly make it, you should come on the John Paul II pilgrimage for the conversion of England! We walk from Ely to Walsingham from July 16-20. I don't know whether Sr. Valery will be there this year, but she's been before. There'll be several other (former) PMers attending Plus a bunch of other Dominican sisters and friars.[/quote] That sounds really interesting! Wether I can make it or not is dependant on my finances which I have to say are not very good at the moment
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