Liturgy Of The Hours

[zunshynn]

[quote name='Resurrexi' post='1922917' date='Jul 17 2009, 02:54 PM'][/quote]

Sorry... I didn't mean to come across sarcastic or mean... It's just kind of amusing how you like to debate about everything. But I mean that with the utmost love and respect.

[Resurrexi]

[quote name='zunshynn' post='1923049' date='Jul 17 2009, 07:14 PM']Sorry... I didn't mean to come across sarcastic or mean... It's just kind of amusing how you like to debate about everything. But I mean that with the utmost love and respect. [/quote]

Oh, okay.

[Resurrexi]

I am earnestly wondering who here uses the Nova Vulgata psalter.

Most people who choose to say the Office in Latin will use the EF Office, which almost always uses the Gallican Psalter.

[jeffpugh]

*goes over his head*

[Resurrexi]

[url="http://vulsearch.sourceforge.net/html/Ps.html"]This[/url] is the Gallican Psalter.

[url="http://www.vatican.va/archive/bible/nova_vulgata/documents/nova-vulgata_vt_psalmorum_lt.html"]This[/url] is the Nova Vulgata Psalter.

[url="http://wdtprs.com/blog/2008/08/breviary-psalter-variations-drilling-into-psalm-1/"]This[/url] is a comparison of the various Latin psalters.

[Resurrexi]

You can see another comparison of various approved Latin psatlers [url="http://www.kellerbook.com/LANGUA~1.HTM"]here[/url].

[Macies]

I feel completely and totally undereducated!

Can you tell me what this is? [url="http://www.breviary.mobi/"]http://www.breviary.mobi/[/url]

Does anybody subscribe to this breviary? I have heard it is good, would like opinions.

Thank you.

[Lil Red]

+J.M.J.+
i pray using the 4-volume set.

[Resurrexi]

[quote]Can you tell me what this is?[/quote]

That Breviary website uses the Gallican Psalter arranged according to Pope St. Pius X's schema.

[quote]Does anybody subscribe to this breviary? I have heard it is good, would like opinions.[/quote]

That website does not use the current EF Breviary. The current EF Office was promulgated by Bl. John XXIII is 1962. The differences between the Breviary which that website uses and the 1962 Breviary are relatively minor; however, those who have an obligation to pray the office daily (e.g. clerics) cannot use the version on that website.

N.B., that website is run by sedevacantists. While that does not make the Breviary that the website provides bad, it does mean that you should beware any commentary or links on the website.

Edited August 7, 2009 by Resurrexi

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='Lil Red' post='1942842' date='Aug 7 2009, 04:00 PM']+J.M.J.+
i pray using the 4-volume set.[/quote]
Haven't gotten around to buying that one yet, in case there is a new translation, so still using the one volume version.

[zunshynn]

[quote name='Marie-Therese' date='28 June 2009 - 01:57 PM' timestamp='1246219056' post='1903954']
Rex, since you seem to be the current resident expert on this subject, can you recommend a Carmelite breviary? I currently have the [i]Little Office of the BVM[/i] (Baronius Press) which is in Latin and English, but I have no breviary of the larger office excepting the current NAB breviary, which translation I find abominable. I note that the Monastic Diurnal you linked to is wonderful but seems Benedictine in focus, which is why I wonder that there is a Carmelite equivalent. If not, that Diurnal looks pretty good.

Thanks for all the info...the depths of your brain never cease to amaze me.
[/quote]

MARIE-THERESE! Look what I just found!

[url="http://books.google.com/books?id=68w-AAAAYAAJ&pg=PP9#v=twopage&q&f=false"]Breviarium Ordinis fratrum beatissimae Virginis Mariae de monte Carmelo, Pars Aestiva[/url]

[url="http://books.google.com/books?id=iNw-AAAAYAAJ&pg=PA362#v=twopage&q&f=false"]Breviarium Ordinis fratrum beatissimae Virginis Mariae de monte Carmelo, Pars Heimalis[/url]



I know you don't really like praying the Office online, and this DOES look a little difficult to navigate... but it is public domain, so you can download the PDF file, and you could always maybe find what you wanted for particular Carmelite feasts and print it out... it's pretty awesome I think. All Latin though. They've been in the Library at Harvard since at least 1928, so they're pretty old editions... one of the letters at the beginning is dated 1885.

Edited April 18, 2010 by zunshynn

[aalpha1989]

oooo that's awesome zunshynn!!

[zunshynn]

For those who are interested, the Dominican Breviary is also available...

[url="http://books.google.com/books?id=p8YHAAAAQAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=breviarium&lr="]Breviarium juxta ritum sacri Ordinis prædicatorum[/url]

[laetitia crucis]

[quote name='zunshynn' date='18 April 2010 - 02:22 AM' timestamp='1271568148' post='2095461']
For those who are interested, the Dominican Breviary is also available...

[url="http://books.google.com/books?id=p8YHAAAAQAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=breviarium&lr="]Breviarium juxta ritum sacri Ordinis prædicatorum[/url]
[/quote]

I just saw this a few hours ago: [url="http://dominican-liturgy.blogspot.com/2010/04/dominican-chant-antiphonal-completed.html"]Antiphonarium pro Liturgia Horarum iuxta Usum Ordinis Praedicatorum.[/url]

So exciting!!!!!!!

*sigh* Chant is so divine.