Chiara Francesco Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 (edited) [quote name='nunsense' timestamp='1320707279' post='2332840'] Dear Chiara Francesco - I do not believe that my post was lacking in any charity at all and asked for prayers for LG, but would be happy for mods to delete the entire thread if they want since some of LG's post in the begininng is about me at KE when I was there years ago and that is still a hurtful topic. I also know LG personally not only from her visit to KE but from the years prior to that before I entered WV. We had many personal interactions including financial ones as I loaned her monty to go to WV, which she never did. We exchanged many emails and phone calls as well. I was very hurt when I left KE and she immediately stopped communicating with me although I sent her many emails and left phone messages. I was very happy that she was still hoping to enter there and couldnt' understand why she cut me out of her life. I could only assume it was over a debt she owed me which I assured her should not interfere with our friendship - only to get no reply. LG does still post on here under different user names (we all have friends who have friends who know who is who on here) and I sent PM after PM to various user names and asked her to please contact me which she did not respond to nor did she contact me - with no reason why. I as very hurt after all I had done to be a reference for her to both WV and KE. My information about the intentions of KE was from the former Prioress herself. If he new Prioress, Mother Mary of the Holy Ghost has a different arrangement with her, then that is wonderful, and I am certainly glad to hear that she has been given a second chance - that is not what I was told by the previous Prioress at the time she wrote to me (a year ago). and WV was very upset that LG started applying to KE before she had ever tol WV that she no longer wanted to enter there. This is first hand experience and knowledge on my part - not hearsay. I was the reference and living in WV at the time so I know these things for facts. I would never have stated them here except that my honesty is being called to account. I am happy to email anyone with details should they need more info. I still have emails from the past as well from these convents and from LG. I am available for LG to contact me via PM, email or even phone if she wants to write for my number. There are many things I would like to clear up with her as I was really hurt by her at a time I needed help the most. And yet, I continue to pray for her and wish her well. I did not state anything that was not my own personal experience. I am sorry for any hurt I caused LG but I would also like to know why she has done things this way???? I would love to take this offline to email or phone!! [/quote] Once again if this is supposed to be some sort of apology it is sadly short of one. You still post more private information and you have no idea if it is true or not. How about just saying "sorry" and ending it there instead of defending yourself by writing more things that shouldn't be out in the public?! Also I believe you didn't mind some posts about you on PM while you were in KE. Since you couldn't post - rightly so being in Carmel - so don't start saying this now. The arrangement WAS made with Mother Mary of the Resurrection and LG more than a year ago and it was between them and that was settled wonderfully between them and the KE community. This is old news. This former Prioress and the other sisters happily changed their mind with no problems and this decision was wholeheartedly agreed with the new prioress as well recently who LG has been speaking too. It is just strange for someone who has posted it really upsets her when someone uses only her name in a post can not see how posting such things that aren't true is MUCH worse. After all, your name is TRUE while this post is question was not. Just because you may know something of another by experience, doesn't give you the right to post it in a public forum! I am sure YOU and others would feel the same way if it was done to you! And no LG [b]doesn't [/b]post here under other names. You also didn't lend money for WV, it was someplace else. And still, right here with this! Who would go blabbing about private matters like this on a public forum? This is my peeve which I find highly tactless and not right. You can bet if you said or did something LG would NOT announce it to the world on a online forum! I do know she is working on clearing up any and all debt and has had a host of difficulties - much more than she even tells me - so she is not about to email it around. She is not happy over some things and all is being cleared up - very cryptic but not for me to talk about. In the past things - serious things - happened and for several reasons, she was withdrawn from most. As a friend I didn't pry or push knowing she'd talk about it or be "with us" when she was ready. Now this whole thread other than her first few posts about her visit should be deleted. Edited November 8, 2011 by Chiara Francesco
Chiara Francesco Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 [quote name='nunsense' timestamp='1320710982' post='2332883'] Oh brandelyn - please don't blame yourself. Sometimes I don't realise how much pain is still left in me. I always talk about trust in God, but I actually have very little and that is why I need to learn it over and over again. When I saw that this thread had been resurrected, I was distressed not only because of the KE sutff, but because of the pain over the loss of a friend for unknown reasons. I am hypersensitive and should not have responded at all. I am the one who is sorry that I have caused this thread to become something about me rather than about KE and Aya's upcoming entrance. I have the utmost joy for her and since having received an email from the new KE Prioress recently, I actually feel things getting better in my heart over KE, although of course, where there is loss, there will always be a bit of pain -- it is simple grief, and we all know what that feels like. I guess I have just had too much of it in the last few years to have been able to process it completely yet. I think I have also been too sensitive in another thread recently and probably hurt other feelings over there too. I might do one of my regular sabbaticals from phatmass for awhile until I am not taking things quite so personally but it is not because of anyone here at all. Just me. Please don't blame yourself for this brande... but maybe we should start another thread for Aya... or there was one I think that we could start posting in again? You are truly kind for caring -- that's what I love about PMers!! [/quote] This is a nicer explanation than the other one you gave which was worse than the first! I am sure you probably didn't think of this when you first posted but we all should read twice what we write before hitting the "Post" button. We all have pain over situations and people but it doesn't give us the write to practically defame or publish things about others.
Chiara Francesco Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 [quote name='brandelynmarie' timestamp='1320710502' post='2332875'] My apologies for resurrecting this thread & causing such heart-ache. I only wanted to share the postulant stories at the beginning as they did give a glimpse into the life at KE, which I think is very unique & as Aya Sophia will be joining them soon. [/quote] Brandee - There is NO problem bumping this thread and LG feels so too. The problem comes when there are such posts that are in question pop up. It ruins a perfectly good thread. Just as Brandee - the young girl who entered Cristo Rey - got some crazy person/people writing very terrible things on her threads here on PM and on her personal blog, some posts should be banned, deleted as it is NOT post worthy and this forum should have such guidelines. No problem, bump away as it is also good promotion for the community the thread is about, just leave out the mean and uncalled for posts.
IcePrincessKRS Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 The moderating team will not be deleting anything. Being mistaken about something does not equal defamation or malicious intent. I am, however, closing this thread because of the lack of charity in recent posts. I only see this devolving further. You all ought to take a step back from this conversation and pray for one another.
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