Lil Red Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 +J.M.J.+ [url="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/6034706/Swimmers-are-told-to-wear-burkinis.html"]Article here.[/url] Snippet from article: [quote]Douglas Murray, director of the Centre for Social Cohesion, last night condemned the practice. He said: "This kind of thing is extremely divisive. "Non-Muslims see these extremist demands as an example of Muslims wanting things to fit into their lifestyle, when there aren't similar things organised for Hindus, Buddhists or Jews. "It also puts moderate Muslims in an awkward position as it suggests, wrongly, that they are not devout enough, simply because they choose not to cover themselves in a shroud in a pool."[/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 If it's a private swim club, I guess it's not a problem (though if I were a member, I might want my money back)... if it's municipal pools, this shouldn't be happening. If the dress if offensive, start your own gym. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcePrincessKRS Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 [quote name='homeschoolmom' post='1950892' date='Aug 16 2009, 11:47 PM'] If it's a private swim club, I guess it's not a problem (though if I were a member, I might want my money back)... if it's municipal pools, this shouldn't be happening. If the dress if offensive, start your own gym.[/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 I'd kind of like to have a burkini. The pool is never warm enough, and the less skin I show, the better everyone seems to like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomist-in-Training Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 The article says the dress codes are during 1.5-hr swim sessions for Muslims, men's one time, women's another time, not [i]all [/i]the time the pool is open. Some of them are on Sunday morning, which doesn't seem like a time a Christian should [i]want [/i]to be at the pool... :shrug: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bus Station Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 [quote name='CatherineM' post='1950900' date='Aug 16 2009, 09:55 PM']I'd kind of like to have a burkini. The pool is never warm enough, and the less skin I show, the better everyone seems to like it.[/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archaeology cat Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 In a way I can understand since it's just for a short time slot. Pools often have times set aside where only families with young children or other specific groups can utilise the pool. On the other hand, since it's a public pool, it seems a bit weird to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zunshynn Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 (edited) I don't necessarily think it's a bad idea, especially because it's set times. I don't use public pools, and I really don't swim, but if I did, I think that's probably when I would go. Edited August 17, 2009 by zunshynn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassan Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 (edited) [quote name='homeschoolmom' post='1950892' date='Aug 16 2009, 10:47 PM'] If it's a private swim club, I guess it's not a problem (though if I were a member, I might want my money back)... if it's municipal pools, this shouldn't be happening. If the dress if offensive, start your own gym.[/quote] Why not? It's a public pool, Muslim residents pay for the upkeep. It's not as though the pool has these dress codes of Muslim standards all the time, or even most of the time. As someone else pointed out the pools already have specific times set aside themed for particular groups. What is wrong with a time being set aside so a part of the population who would otherwise be culturally excluded may use the the pool they help pay for? Edited August 17, 2009 by Hassan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeniteAdoremus Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 I agree. I only swim in summers, because our community pool is roofless, and I actually feel very uncomfortable the first couple of weeks because I've been in long skirts all winter So I totally understand other women being uncomfortable. Just like many uniform rules, I think it helps [i]against[/i] judgement and division. I bet there aren't many women who would stay at home/be asked not to go because they'd wear too MUCH It's not Saudi Arabia where you're not allowed out on the streets without a veil, it's a pool which offers it at a short time slot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archaeology cat Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 [quote name='Hassan' post='1951015' date='Aug 17 2009, 08:22 AM']Why not? It's a public pool, Muslim residents pay for the upkeep. It's not as though the pool has these dress codes of Muslim standards all the time, or even most of the time. As someone else pointed out the pools already have specific times set aside themed for particular groups. What is wrong with a time being set aside so a part of the population who would otherwise be culturally excluded may use the the pool they help pay for?[/quote] Yeah, my first thought was to dismiss it as ridiculous, but the more I think about it, the less it bothers me since it's just specific times. I mean, the pool here is reserved for parents with children under 5 on Wednesdays from 10.30-12.00, and you have to sign up in advance for that. So it doesn't seem like a huge stretch to have a specific time set aside for Muslims, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 [quote name='Hassan' post='1951015' date='Aug 17 2009, 03:22 AM']Why not? It's a public pool, Muslim residents pay for the upkeep. It's not as though the pool has these dress codes of Muslim standards all the time, or even most of the time. As someone else pointed out the pools already have specific times set aside themed for particular groups. What is wrong with a time being set aside so a part of the population who would otherwise be culturally excluded may use the the pool they help pay for?[/quote] When do the nudists get to swim? Aren't they culturally excluded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sojourner Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 [quote name='Archaeology cat' post='1951021' date='Aug 17 2009, 04:29 AM']Yeah, my first thought was to dismiss it as ridiculous, but the more I think about it, the less it bothers me since it's just specific times. I mean, the pool here is reserved for parents with children under 5 on Wednesdays from 10.30-12.00, and you have to sign up in advance for that. So it doesn't seem like a huge stretch to have a specific time set aside for Muslims, I guess.[/quote] I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 One set of rules, reasonably made. You don't like it, revolt. Seems like a workable solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeniteAdoremus Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 [quote name='homeschoolmom' post='1951039' date='Aug 17 2009, 02:10 PM']When do the nudists get to swim? Aren't they culturally excluded?[/quote] Saturday from 8 to 10 actually... I don't like it, it breaks my daily routine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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