Jesus_lol Posted October 23, 2009 Posted October 23, 2009 [quote name='MIkolbe' date='23 October 2009 - 01:28 PM' timestamp='1256326115' post='1990349'] true...but without an ancient book and an omnipotent deity, can you explain why it is wrong? [/quote] because there is a victim.
HisChildForever Posted October 23, 2009 Posted October 23, 2009 [quote name='Varg' date='23 October 2009 - 03:31 PM' timestamp='1256326300' post='1990352'] Because it's other people's money and they earned it, I have no right to take it from them (using the example of a bank robbery) [/quote] Who cares if they earned it? If you can get away with it, there is no punishment for you (earthly or eternal). If you feel guilt, that is because society is telling you to feel guilt, not your conscience. Am I right? Or is it your conscience - so then where does your conscience come from? If there is no absolute truth, then everything is relative. Stealing from someone is not right or wrong, it just is.
Varg Posted October 23, 2009 Author Posted October 23, 2009 Every human has morals, regardless of their religion.
HisChildForever Posted October 23, 2009 Posted October 23, 2009 [quote name='Varg' date='23 October 2009 - 03:56 PM' timestamp='1256327801' post='1990361'] Every human has morals, regardless of their religion. [/quote] So morals are inherent, parts of our biological make-up? How does that work in to survival of the fittest? Or are they learned? And if they are learned, why do we need them if there is no absolute truth?
Varg Posted October 23, 2009 Author Posted October 23, 2009 [quote name='HisChildForever' date='23 October 2009 - 04:08 PM' timestamp='1256328528' post='1990362'] So morals are inherent, parts of our biological make-up? How does that work in to survival of the fittest? Or are they learned? And if they are learned, why do we need them if there is no absolute truth? [/quote] Now you're just making croutons up. None of that makes any sense
Mark of the Cross Posted October 23, 2009 Posted October 23, 2009 (edited) People commonly rob banks and murder each other. Countries which have more of it degenerate into anarchy. These effects are countered by moral people, whether or not they are moral because of religion has no bearing. Without morality the world would degenerate down to total chaos. I would think that morality would be a basic defence mechanism for the survival of the species. Some people claim that animals do not have a sole yet many display moral like behaviour. Edited October 23, 2009 by Mark of the Cross
Apotheoun Posted October 23, 2009 Posted October 23, 2009 [quote name='Varg' date='23 October 2009 - 02:15 PM' timestamp='1256328913' post='1990365'] Now you're just making croutons up. None of that makes any sense [/quote] Actually . . . she merely asked you some questions.
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