Varg Posted October 22, 2009 Author Posted October 22, 2009 [quote name='Winchester' date='22 October 2009 - 01:14 PM' timestamp='1256231683' post='1989689'] There is no such thing as human dignity in an atheist worldview [/quote] Uh...Lol?
Varg Posted October 22, 2009 Author Posted October 22, 2009 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' date='22 October 2009 - 01:18 PM' timestamp='1256231894' post='1989696'] Did you miss your nap time today? FYI, it's a *serpent*, not a snake. Duh. [/quote] They're the same thing
Nihil Obstat Posted October 22, 2009 Posted October 22, 2009 [quote name='Varg' date='22 October 2009 - 12:22 PM' timestamp='1256232142' post='1989703'] They're the same thing [/quote] [img]http://webspace.webring.com/people/jv/vibes/chill_pill.jpg[/img]
Varg Posted October 22, 2009 Author Posted October 22, 2009 BRB guys, I'm off to demolish a church and erect a monument to the sun god in its place. But it's ok cos Christians are all wack!
Winchester Posted October 22, 2009 Posted October 22, 2009 [quote name='Varg' date='22 October 2009 - 01:21 PM' timestamp='1256232066' post='1989700'] Uh...Lol? [/quote] Yes, I am aware you haven't thought your beliefs through. You needn't show everyone else, though.
Nihil Obstat Posted October 22, 2009 Posted October 22, 2009 (edited) [quote name='Varg' date='22 October 2009 - 12:25 PM' timestamp='1256232315' post='1989709'] BRB guys, I'm off to demolish a church and erect a monument to the sun god in its place. But it's ok cos Christians are all wack! [/quote] You're about two decades late. Church arson is so Scandanavian 1990s. Edited October 22, 2009 by Nihil Obstat
CatherineM Posted October 22, 2009 Posted October 22, 2009 Every place we walk was probably sacred in someway to someone at sometime. Why are the casing stones gone from the Great Pyramid? Because when it was no longer a special place, people recycled the stones into their buildings. There are stones from the Alexandrian Lighthouse used in the present buildings there in Egypt. Nazis recycled the granite headstones from Jewish cemeteries as street material. We use the concrete from old bridges and old warships as artificial reefs. When something has lost its usefulness, or its meaning, using it for something new is a way of bringing it back to life in a way. I thought you youngsters were radical for recycling. 1700 years ago, buildings couldn't be built in a few weeks or months like they can be today. Re-purposing pagan shrines did two things. It kept the church from having to invest time, money and effort into building new structures, and it effectively got rid of the pagan shrine without having to worry about radical pagans chaining themselves to the doors to keep the bulldozers out.
KnightofChrist Posted October 22, 2009 Posted October 22, 2009 (edited) Why does a Atheist care what people of faith do? Without God man is just a mere animal, nothing would be sacred. No right and wrong, no good and bad, and certainly no good and evil. All those beliefs are constructs of faith, which is contradictory to Athiesm. There would be nothing wrong with murder, "murder" is just another construct of religious faith. In Athiesm murder is nothing more than survival of the fitness. One animal terminating the bio functions of another. "Mass-murder" and war would also be just nature's way of ridding itself of genetic waste. Edited October 22, 2009 by KnightofChrist
Winchester Posted October 22, 2009 Posted October 22, 2009 I predict the damning LOL rebuttal. Curses, foiled again!
picchick Posted October 22, 2009 Posted October 22, 2009 [quote name='Winchester' date='22 October 2009 - 12:51 PM' timestamp='1256230266' post='1989661'] I justify it by your rules: Survival of the fittest. [/quote] [quote name='Varg' date='22 October 2009 - 01:25 PM' timestamp='1256232315' post='1989709'] BRB guys, I'm off to demolish a church and erect a monument to the sun god in its place. But it's ok cos Christians are all wack! [/quote] Why? Wouldn't that mean that there is a god to you? I thought you were atheist. Honestly, I kinda agree with people here. I don't really knowwhy you care. I would think that if you are aetheist, there is no god. Therefore Christians have got it wrong, Jews have it wrong, Muslims have it wrong and pagans have it wrong. So, why don't you sit back, have some tea and crumpets, and watch us "wack" people duke it out?
Resurrexi Posted October 22, 2009 Posted October 22, 2009 "As Omura Sumitada had gone off to the wars, it so happened that he passed on the way an idol, Marishiten by name, which is their god of battles. When they pass it, they bow and pay reverence to it, and the pagans who are on horseback dismount as a sign of their respect. Now the idol had above it a cockerel. As the daimyo came there with his squadron he had his men stop and ordered them to take the idol and burn it together with the whole temple; and he took the cockerel and gave it a blow with the sword, saying to it, 'Oh, how many times have you betrayed me!' And after everything had been burnt down, he had a very beautiful cross erected on the same spot, and after he and his men had paid very deep reverence to it, they continued on their way to the wars." Awesome story, no?
Varg Posted October 22, 2009 Author Posted October 22, 2009 I hope you all know I only made this thread to get more -reps. Is -39 a new record?
Nihil Obstat Posted October 22, 2009 Posted October 22, 2009 (edited) [quote name='Varg' date='22 October 2009 - 03:37 PM' timestamp='1256243852' post='1989786'] I hope you all know I only made this thread to get more -reps. Is -39 a new record? [/quote] Not even close. I believe Stormstopper will be around -70 now. (Even regular members aren't really supposed to troll...) EDIT: I stand corrected. He's closing in on -100. Edited October 22, 2009 by Nihil Obstat
picchick Posted October 22, 2009 Posted October 22, 2009 [quote name='Varg' date='22 October 2009 - 04:37 PM' timestamp='1256243852' post='1989786'] I hope you all know I only made this thread to get more -reps. Is -39 a new record? [/quote] aw, nice way to cover up your increasing interest in the faith
Varg Posted October 22, 2009 Author Posted October 22, 2009 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' date='22 October 2009 - 04:39 PM' timestamp='1256243946' post='1989789'] Not even close. I believe Stormstopper will be around -70 now. (Even regular members aren't really supposed to troll...) EDIT: I stand corrected. He's closing in on -100. [/quote]Ah well...A couple more threads about pagans, church burnings and satan should do it [quote name='picchick' date='22 October 2009 - 04:40 PM' timestamp='1256244009' post='1989790'] aw, nice way to cover up your increasing interest in the faith [/quote]
Nihil Obstat Posted October 22, 2009 Posted October 22, 2009 [quote name='Varg' date='22 October 2009 - 03:45 PM' timestamp='1256244318' post='1989792'] Ah well...A couple more threads about pagans, church burnings and satan should do it [/quote] I was starting to wonder if you had forgotten to take your happy atheist prozac today.
JimR-OCDS Posted October 22, 2009 Posted October 22, 2009 [quote name='Varg' date='22 October 2009 - 06:08 AM' timestamp='1256202526' post='1989584'] I've just found out that some of the first churches were built on sacred pagan ground. I'd like to see any of you justify that. [/quote] Really? Good! FYI, many of the first Christians were Pagans before they converted. They merely built churches on their pagan grounds. OH, and Constantine, after he declared the Edict of Religious Toleration, donated some Roman Public buildings to the Church. Rome was a Pagan culture, so some of those buildings that became churches, were in fact once pagan. But I'll say it again,... Good! [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif[/img] Jim
alleros Posted October 23, 2009 Posted October 23, 2009 Here in Ireland, many pagan sites were "Christianised" as the term here is. Sadly, some of the old pagan customs survive, like the "rag trees" at Holy Wells. Pagan had power also and needs the cleansing of Jesus. There are few standing stones in the far north and here in Ireland that now have the Cross carved on them to that end.
Winchester Posted October 27, 2009 Posted October 27, 2009 We often mock the beliefs of the ancients. The only thing I regret is that they aren't here so we can mock them to their faces.
Didacus Posted October 27, 2009 Posted October 27, 2009 [quote name='Varg' date='22 October 2009 - 05:08 AM' timestamp='1256202526' post='1989584'] I've just found out that some of the first churches were built on sacred pagan ground. I'd like to see any of you justify that. [/quote] Do you have a link or a source giving details?
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