Guest Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 (edited) [quote name='KnightofChrist' post='1695493' date='Nov 6 2008, 02:43 AM']Well?[/quote] John 4 [size=7] This is how you can know the Spirt of God : every spirit that acknowleges Jesus Christ come in the flesh belongs to God, and every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus does not belong to God. This is the spirit of the the antichirst. [/size] Edited November 6, 2008 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 A quotation is not an argument. [size=6]Prove that the words used in that text are univocal in meaning and only apply in that single context.[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 (edited) BTW, thanks for enlarging your text, but remember the size of your font is not by itself a reasoned argument. I await your proof. Edited November 6, 2008 by Apotheoun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 (edited) [quote name='Apotheoun' post='1695501' date='Nov 6 2008, 02:49 AM']BTW, thanks for enlarging your text, but remember the size of your font is not by itself a reasoned argument. I await your proof.[/quote] lol im done im getting way to worked up over this. i dont even like obama that much. im sorry for getting angry i get way to worked up on these phorums. im done, i presented my argument as you presented yours. i do appolgogise about the three word thing. that was out line. Godbless you man Edited November 6, 2008 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkwright Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 (edited) Apo you're the expert here... if thats not what the words mean then tell us. Edited November 6, 2008 by rkwright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 [quote name='Delivery Boy' post='1695502' date='Nov 5 2008, 11:51 PM']lol im getting way to worked up over this. i dont even like obama that much. im sorry for getting angry i get way to worked up on these phorums. im done, i presented my argument as you presented yours. i do appolgogise about the three word thing. that was out line. Godbless you man[/quote] I am simply asking you to provide a reasoned argument in defense of your position. If you cannot provide one that is fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 [quote name='rkwright' post='1695503' date='Nov 6 2008, 02:52 AM']Apo you're the expert here... if thats not what the words mean then tell us.[/quote] ya exactly im not a super catholic like you apo ive provided my evidence y i think obama is not a antichrist pleaseeeeeeee give me some catholic teaching on what an antichrist is serioulsy not your words some church teaching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 (edited) [quote name='Delivery Boy' post='1695498' date='Nov 6 2008, 02:47 AM']John 4 This is how you can know the Spirt of God : every spirit that acknowleges Jesus Christ come in the flesh belongs to God, and every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus does not belong to God. This is the spirit of the the antichirst.[/quote] I know John 4 I asked if what anti meant. This is the Definition of anti [b]anti–[/b] [indent]1. [b]Opposite[/b]: antimere. 2. [b]Opposing; against[/b]: antiapartheid. 3. [b]Counteracting[/b]; neutralizing: antacid. 4. [b]Destroying[/b]: antiaircraft. [/indent] If one supports genocide of abortion, the mass murder of childrens [color="#FF0000"]lives[/color] one is destroying, counteracting, opposing, opposite to Life, and because Christ is [color="#FF0000"]Life[/color] they would be a Antichrist. Edited November 6, 2008 by KnightofChrist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 [quote name='rkwright' post='1695503' date='Nov 6 2008, 02:52 AM']Apo you're the expert here... if thats not what the words mean then tell us.[/quote] Are demons in hell Antichrists? How can they not be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 [quote name='KnightofChrist' post='1695508' date='Nov 6 2008, 02:57 AM']I know John 4 I asked if what anti meant. This is the Definition of anti [b]anti–[/b] 1. 1. [b]Opposite[/b]: antimere. 2. [b]Opposing; against[/b]: antiapartheid. 3. [b]Counteracting[/b]; neutralizing: antacid. 4. [b]Destroying[/b]: antiaircraft. If one supports genocide of abortion, the mass murder of childrens [color="#FF0000"]lives[/color] one is destroying, counteracting, opposing, opposite to Life, and because Christ is [color="#FF0000"]Life[/color] they would be a Antichrist.[/quote] i respect that bro and see what you are saying with that. i really do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 (edited) [quote name='rkwright' post='1695503' date='Nov 5 2008, 11:52 PM']Apo you're the expert here... if thats not what the words mean then tell us.[/quote] The burden of proof lies with the one making the argument. I am asking Delivery Boy to prove that the words used in the First Epistle of John are univocal, that is, that they can only be used in that one particular context. He also needs to show that this singular use is a part of tradition, and that the Church's magisterium has never declared other men to be "anti-Christs" for simply opposing Christ's message. Edited November 6, 2008 by Apotheoun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 [quote name='Apotheoun' post='1695512' date='Nov 6 2008, 03:00 AM']The burden of proof lies with the one making the argument. I am asking Delivery Boy to prove that the words used in the First Epistle of John are univocal, that is, that they can only be used in that one particular context. He also needs to show that this singular use is a part of tradition, and that the Church's magisterium has never declared that people have been "anti-Christs" for opposing Christ's message.[/quote] i cant do that and im sincerly asking you to help me out and show me some church teaching and instances where this applies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkwright Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 [quote name='Apotheoun' post='1695512' date='Nov 6 2008, 02:00 AM']The burden of proof lies with the one making the argument. I am asking Delivery Boy to prove that the words used in the First Epistle of John are univocal, that is, that they can only be used in that one particular context. He also needs to show that this singular use is a part of tradition, and that the Church's magisterium has never declared other men to be "anti-Christs" for opposing simply opposing Christ's message.[/quote] burden of proof blah blah... sounds good in a court room... You said he's poorly Catechized... so Catechize him - and all of us reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 [quote name='Delivery Boy' post='1695498' date='Nov 6 2008, 02:47 AM']John 4 This is how you can know the Spirt of God : every spirit that acknowleges Jesus Christ come in the flesh belongs to God, and every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus does not belong to God. This is the spirit of the the antichirst.[/quote] What of people who do not believe in Christ? Do they have the spirit of Antichrist? John says so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 [quote name='rkwright' post='1695514' date='Nov 6 2008, 03:03 AM']burden of proof blah blah... sounds good in a court room... You said he's poorly Catechized... so Catechize him - and all of us reading.[/quote] Again, are the demons in hell Antichrists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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