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[quote name='Sternhauser' date='10 November 2009 - 09:48 PM' timestamp='1257907707' post='2000082']
Take the teeth and the claws away from a cat, put it in a dark room, and 3 rats will skeletonize it in minutes.

~Sternhauser
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I'm pretty sure that's supposed to be a cow and piranhas.

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[quote name='Winchester' date='10 November 2009 - 10:51 PM' timestamp='1257907874' post='2000088']
I'm pretty sure that's supposed to be a cow and piranhas.
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I guess you're not familiar with D.C. rats.

~Sternhauser

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[quote name='Lounge Daddy' date='10 November 2009 - 09:48 PM' timestamp='1257907713' post='2000083']
As a matter of fact, yes. You're right.
And, by the way, it is true that it's my opinion that the Federal State should [i]not[/i] have any say on abortion and gay marriage. [/quote]
The Church does think differently.

Avoiding laws from government will not remove coercion and violence. It will merely move it to some other agent.

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[quote name='Winchester' date='10 November 2009 - 10:52 PM' timestamp='1257907965' post='2000090']
Avoiding laws from government will not remove coercion and violence. It will merely move it to some other agent.
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Good. At least the other agent won't claim a monopoly on violence.

~Sternhauser

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[quote name='Sternhauser' date='10 November 2009 - 09:54 PM' timestamp='1257908047' post='2000093']
Good. At least the other agent won't claim a monopoly on violence.

~Sternhauser
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If they're any good, they will.

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[quote name='Sternhauser' date='10 November 2009 - 10:37 PM' timestamp='1257907035' post='2000065']
An anarchist/voluntaryist can believe in laws. Many believe in a tort system, however. Antinomians do not believe in laws.

~Sternhauser
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And I am pretty sure that automatons believe in the current two-party system.

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[quote name='Winchester' date='10 November 2009 - 10:54 PM' timestamp='1257908084' post='2000096']
If they're any good, they will.
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Remember that time? That time we had a disagreement on the definition of "violence?" . . . that was great.


I think we're having the same kind of disagreement on the meaning of "Good." Kind of like, "Bad criminals go to prison. The best ones go to Washington."

~Sternhauser

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[quote name='Lounge Daddy' date='10 November 2009 - 09:55 PM' timestamp='1257908140' post='2000099']
And I am pretty sure that automatons believe in the current two-party system.
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What do snobs believe?

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[quote name='Lounge Daddy' date='10 November 2009 - 10:55 PM' timestamp='1257908140' post='2000099']
And I am pretty sure that automatons believe in the current two-party system.
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Hey, it's not their fault. Automatons do what they're programmed to do.

~Sternhauser

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[quote name='Sternhauser' date='10 November 2009 - 09:56 PM' timestamp='1257908203' post='2000100']
Remember that time? That time we had a disagreement on the definition of "violence?" . . . that was great.


I think we're having the same kind of disagreement on the meaning of "Good." Kind of like, "Bad criminals go to prison. The best ones go to Washington."

~Sternhauser
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I'm using it in the sense of them being competent.

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[quote name='Winchester' date='10 November 2009 - 10:58 PM' timestamp='1257908289' post='2000104']
I'm using it in the sense of them being competent.
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One can use violence without a monopoly, and still be very competent. The great difference is, you don't need to do immoral things to maintain a monopoly on violence.

~Sternhauser

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[quote name='Sternhauser' date='10 November 2009 - 10:00 PM' timestamp='1257908402' post='2000107']
One can use violence without a monopoly, and still be very competent. The great difference is, you don't need to do immoral things to maintain a monopoly on violence.

~Sternhauser
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Any tyrant worth his salt wants that monopoly (which isn't really a monopoly).

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[quote name='Winchester' date='10 November 2009 - 11:01 PM' timestamp='1257908476' post='2000110']
Any tyrant worth his salt wants that monopoly (which isn't really a monopoly).
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Someone who claims the right to use force only against aggressors is not a tyrant. He's Joe Average. Joe Average doesn't want a monopoly.

~Sternhauser

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[quote name='Sternhauser' date='10 November 2009 - 10:07 PM' timestamp='1257908830' post='2000122']
Someone who claims the right to use force only against aggressors is not a tyrant. He's Joe Average. Joe Average doesn't want a monopoly.

~Sternhauser
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Joe Average shouldn't be runnning a country. That's what the aristocracy is for.

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[quote name='Winchester' date='10 November 2009 - 11:08 PM' timestamp='1257908882' post='2000124']
Joe Average shouldn't be runnning a country. That's what the aristocracy is for.
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Joe Average does run the country. The aristocracy merely pretends to, like a child with a hammer pretends to build things. Both of them only succeed in making a lot of noise and destroying the surrounding environment, while getting in the way of what the grown-ups are trying to do.

A politician is a child writ large.

~Sternhauser

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