KeenanParkerII Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 (edited) Sweet, I'll check em out after I'm done my studies. Edited January 16, 2010 by KeenanParkerII
eustace scrubb Posted March 7, 2010 Posted March 7, 2010 i'm bored and can't get to sleep, so i went through this and critiqued it to the degree that i care at four (now five) AM. ha! [b]Amon Amarth[/b]- melodic death metal, bout vikings. fully awesome.As you might guess with a band that uses only viking history and mythfor lyrics, almost all refer to Odin and Thor etc, and a few are aboutViking invasions of Christian towns. Odinism and christianity arentreally all that compatible, and the few songs they have aboutchristianity bug me, so i deleted them, but they remain one of myfavourite bands.[/quote] fun band, musically good, but they have a song or two about raping nuns. wouldn't recommend them to people here. [b]Black Sabbath[/b]- c'mon, you know theseguys. heavy old school metal. The kneejerk reaction from many peoplewhen they came out was to label them as satanic, though i believe thatis entirely unfounded. coined the musical terms "metal" and "doom metal." most successful Catholic rock band in history, but of their best material, only the first three have lyrics that would be acceptable by people here. [b]Cannibal Corpse[/b] - crazy stuff,check outtheir stuffwith George Fisher(recent) for better production, singing,guitar, andtone. and less messed up lyrics. in general, the lyrics aremessed up, but barely legible. not religion themed, more like horrormovie stuff. but a few members of this board like em, so they get onthe list. horrible drumming and the worst lyrics i have ever had the displeasure of reading in my entire life. they cross so many lines, it's not even funny. i'm paid to write about metal and hardcore and was given an assignment to write about them. i turned it down and the editor was understanding. [b] [/b][b]Carcass[/b] - guitarist michael ammot from arch enemy. old schoolDM, started melodeath. Most of their stuff is junk grindcore(imo) buttotally changed sound in "Heartwork" which i quite like. what is junk grindcore??? i know they started goregrind (one of the most BORING genres EVER...), but they were a legitimately good band before heartwork... [b]Dark Tranquility[/b] - gothenburg melodeath. easy to get into i think. AWESOME AWESOME band... saw them live eight years ago or so and they TOTALLY blew me away... [b]Death - [/b]probably my favourite band here. thisband started the death metal genre although has very little to do withthe cannibal corpse type stuff. very heavy and technical, great rhythmand good solos. lots of complicated timing and exotic sounding licks.sorta growling singer,decent lyrics, more political in later albums,horror movieish in the first few. band broke up in 2001, when theoriginal founder, guitarist vocalist and songwriter died of braintumourand surgery complications.if you like metal i endorse these guysentirely. Also, has clearly stated in an interview that he has nothingto do with satanism. albums like Spiritual Healing were very anti-religious and they have an upside-down cross in their logo. however, their singer converted to Catholicism sometime before his death. [b] [/b][b]Dio-[/b] classic heavy metal stuff. like a mix between black sabbath and ozzy. the artwork for Holy Diver has a priest in chains, thrown into the sea by a demon... are you seriously recommending hIm to people here??? [b]Dream Theater[/b]- very talented progressive metal band. greatstuff. one of the more famous metal bands, known for the very highlevel of musicianship. horrible horrible horrible live band, but amazing musicians. i wish more of their material wasn't just a build up to an awesome solo in the middle of the song, though. Awake is a great album, though, as is another one i can't remember at the moment... some anti-religious lyrics, but have/had? Catholic members. [b] [/b][b]Darkest Hour[/b]- great band, melodic deathmetal. check out the song "the Tides" for some good riffs and one of myfavourite guitar solos, ever. [i]EVER.[/i] EVER. VERY fun live band, but extremely anti-religious. they're too drunk and stupid to be taken seriously with that, though. even if their upcoming album is a Nietzsche reference (philosophy 101 metal, anyone? lololol). [b]Disturbed[/b]- good standard metal band. youcould probably put them on at a party and have people like it. but goodriffs and choruses. intro to metal. DEATH TO FALSE METAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [b]Enslaved[/b] - interesting black metalprogressive band. nice production. Most people would say all blackmetal is anti christian, and i dont know for sure about these guys oneway or another. still like their album "ruun", though if you areconcerned about religious themes and message in music i would avoidthese guys, or at least check their lyrics first uhm, they have shirts with a mjolnir cracking a cross in half... [b]Electric Wizard-[/b] the heaviest, trippiest, sweetest stoner doommetal band. you could do much worse in choosing a band to test out yournew subwoofers, downtuned, slow paced and heavy. repetitive though. great band, but one of their recent albums (Withcult Today) had a lot of satanic material in it, from what i understand. it came across as forced, but whatever. [b] [/b][b]Entombed[/b]- oldschool death metal/rock. i like their last couple of albums. Several older album namessuggest to me that they might have satanic themes, though they arentpresent in the recent album or two i have listened to. VERY satanic and offensive lyrics... i'm amazed they made your list... [b]Hypocrisy[/b] - institution of heavy extreme metal. dont know very well. pretty anti-Christian from what i know. [b] [/b][b]Immortal[/b] - favourite black metal band. crisp and cold sounding. VERY VERY VERY anti-Christian band, was involved in church burnings and possibly a murder or two. very blasphemous and use satanic imagery a lot, but are probably just neo-Odinists, like 98% of "satanic" black metal bands... [b]Impending Doom[/b] - heavy heavy mid tempo death metal. The onlyone on this list that is definitely Christian in intent and lyrics,though most others outstrip them musically. Devourment-lite. i think the song people were referring to was more about hypocritical evangelical fundamentalist preachers... [b] [/b][b]Iron Maiden[/b] you should know. good stuff. Falsely accused asbeing satanic, lyrics recently sometimes take a positive view ofchristianity(though are normally on other subjects) yeah, "Number of the Beast" was entirely intended to poke fun at the "satanic panic" of the 80's that evangelicals got into. never heard the song about the crusades, but i know that Nicko McBrain drums for a nondenominational evangelical worship group or something... btw "Hallowed be Thy Name" and "Sign of the Cross" are AMAZING and very moving songs... listen to the live "Rock in Rio" versions or watch them on youtube. [b] [/b][b]Judas Priest[/b]- again a classic NWOBHM band. are you serious? they're great and all, but HIGHLY anti-Christian and have a lot of cryptic lyrics about homosexual sex. i love them, personally, but doubt people here would be comfortable listening to them. [b]Megadeth[/b] - good thrash band, metalica's contempories. exceptthey are still good. Latest album "Endgame" is incredible. i thinktheir lead singer guitarist frontman turned christian a little whileago. Dave Mustaine became an evangelical Christian around 97. it helped him kick his heroin addiction, but not long ago, he was hosting a radio show where he spewed all this evangelical fundie stuff that was really incendiary and ridiculous. supposedly he's recently gotten over his ego, but i'm skeptical. i think he's calmed down with the religious firebrand stuff, though... but not sure... [b] [/b][b]Origin[/b]- literally the heaviest fastestmost technical band i have listened to, though really only notable for that. worth a look on youtube but i find them boring. LOVE this band's early stuff and two of the songs off of Informitas... , but Antithesis was so overproduced, it's gross... Longstreth or whatever his name is, is an awesome drummer, though... [b] [/b][b]Slayer -[/b] good riffing, terrible solos, thrash mostly anti christian lyrics lead singer is a Roman Catholic, but he sings some of the most blasphemous lyrics imaginable (human sacrifice??? seriously???). super lame in that regard, but older material is mindblowing, musically. new album, World Painted Blood, is a return to form and their first good album since Seasons in the Abyss. would not recommend this band to anyone here at all. [b] [/b][b]Sentenced [/b]- good band, great songs. kinda melodeath/classic/powermetal super-suicidal lyrics, the singer recently killed himself... you guys can figure it out for yourselves... [b]Trouble[/b]- another great classic metalband. weird singer. i love the guitar and song feel.early albums are more doom, later are more rockish. once referred to as "white metal" for their christian content, i wouldput them more as a positively christian themed band rather than a"christian band" i addressed them in the other thread. [b] [/b][b]Vader [/b]- terrific death metal band. unique growling voice, they do lots of slayer covers and write stuff heavier than antimatter. i like them, but they have a generic and formulaic sound. lyrics are extremely anti-Christian and there's some satanic stuff there for shock value. they have songs about going to war against Christianity, so i'd recommend people here avoid them. i'll go see them live, but won't listen to their albums. also, their Slayer covers are TERRIBLE!!!!!! btw the guy who said DSBM is good is right, but if you like strong musicianship, you won't like it. i used to be a junkie with this music, but it made me really depressed (LOL!) after a few months, so i don't listen to it often. burzum pretty much founded the genre with his Filosefem album. while he is everything you said he is, his lyrics are almost entirely about Middle-Earth. there are some seriously anti-Jesus songs, though, like "Jesus Tod" or whatever. i refuse to support and can't stand him as a person, though. plus he torched a bunch of churches and made money off of that... stupid stupid stupid... most of the metal i listen to now is foreign political grindcore. mostly japanese, spanish, swedish, and australian, but there's an INCREDIBLE band from northeast NJ called Gridlink. has members of Discordance Axis, Noisear/Kill the Client, Mortalized, and some other band. their first album, Amber Gray, is very technical and as much of a classic as Napalm Death's Scum and Terrorizer's World Downfall. they're pretty anti-religion, though, which is a shame. i heard about a grindcore band from Ireland, made up of very conservative, traditional Catholics, but it's been suggested that they were an ironic joke. i don't know much about them and forget their name, but there is a Catholic grindcore/powerviolence (please don't make me explain that "genre"... ) that i'm not sure of the status of, named something like Forty Thousand Martyrs or something... and there's some evangelical groups like Vomitorial Corpulence (RIP), You're Fired, Lights for Nero (RIP), and In Loving Kindness (on hiatus, main member is either Coptic or Ethiopian Orthodox. haven't asked him about that in awhile...). i'm hoping to start a Christian grindcore band at some point, but finding Christians, let alone ANYONE here who plays it and isn't already busy is next to impossible... i haven't read their lyrics yet, but Portal from Australia is mindblowing... their album, Swarth, breaks new ground in death metal and is incredible...
Jesus_lol Posted March 7, 2010 Author Posted March 7, 2010 AGGGGH i cant beleive my browser crashed, after i spent about an hour working on a indepth reply!!!!. son of a #Q$#!%$!$^&*^$&$ ok and now its 3:30. boooo, ill do it again tomorrow.
eustace scrubb Posted March 7, 2010 Posted March 7, 2010 [quote name='Jesus_lol' date='07 March 2010 - 07:23 AM' timestamp='1267961039' post='2067966'] AGGGGH i cant beleive my browser crashed, after i spent about an hour working on a indepth reply!!!!. son of a #Q$#!%$!$^&*^{:content:}amp;$ ok and now its 3:30. boooo, ill do it again tomorrow. [/quote] oh maaaaaaan, that smells of elderberries... sorry to hear that!!!!
Jesus_lol Posted March 8, 2010 Author Posted March 8, 2010 ok this was a better reply last night, but whatever [quote name='eustace scrubb' date='07 March 2010 - 02:28 AM'timestamp='1267957722' post='2067957'] i'm bored and can't get to sleep, so i went through this and critiqued it tothe degree that i care at four (now five) AM. ha! [/quote] ok so here goes again, thought id get back to you on some of your edits, etc. i received most of these digitally (some downloaded, a huge smack from afriends failed hard drive), so i havent seen all the liner notes, album coversetc.) anyways, i had made a full list of everything in my library, and this one isjust slightly distilled(well it took me a few hours of editing, and looking upsome lyrics, etc) so its quite possibly not infallible some of the more questionable ones that i left on were talked about in previousmetal threads, and some of the catholics on here liked listening to them. sothey made the list, some of them. [b]Amon Amarth[/b] fun band, musically good, but they have a song or two aboutraping nuns. wouldn't recommend them to people here. mhm, those songs are easy enough to find and delete, just by song title. thenthat leaves you with a healthy discography of awesome viking metal. [b]Black Sabbath[/b]- coined the musical terms "metal" and "doommetal." most successful Catholic rock band in history, but oftheir best material, only the first three have lyrics that would be acceptableby people here. Cant say ive listened to much past their first three albums,Master of Reality is my fav by far. Could you go into more detail on whatswrong with their later stuff? [b]Cannibal Corpse[/b] horrible drumming and the worst lyrics i have ever hadthe displeasure of reading in my entire life. they cross so manylines, it's not even funny. i'm paid to write about metal andhardcore and was given an assignment to write about them. i turnedit down and the editor was understanding.<br style=""><br style=""> I agree. Their earlystuff is terrible, in every way. Their last two albums(the only ones i like atall) are a lot more normal to death metal, lyrics wise(their newer singer isn'tas screwed up) and the production and playing gets better. [b] Carcass[/b] -what is junk grindcore??? i know they started goregrind (one ofthe most BORING genres EVER...), but they were a legitimately good band beforeheartwork... Lol, junk as in i didn't like listening to it, not as agenre. Yes they were popular in the metal scene before heartwork, but that bodyof music doesn't really belong in this thread. And im not that familiar with itanyways. [b]Dark Tranquility [/b]AWESOME AWESOME band... saw them live eight years agoor so and they TOTALLY blew me away... Uggg, i had tickets to go see these guys(along with archenemy, firewind) and i missed the chance to go. L [b]Death - [/b]albums like Spiritual Healing were very anti-religious and theyhave an upside-down cross in their logo. however, their singerconverted to Catholicism sometime before his death. Hmm i didn't know he went full catholic, thats interesting. Youare right, his early couple albums do have that symbol there(though i don't thinkit makes them a satanic band), and spiritual healing is like that. Over the course of a few albums, that upside down cross turnsinto a right side up one. (more neutral, but w/e) and their later albums aremore about hypocrisy, politics, etc. Given the band leader stated he hadnothing whatso ever to do with Satanism, thats about as close to the source asit gets. [b] Dio-[/b] the artwork for Holy Diver has a priest in chains, thrown into the seaby a demon... are you seriously recommending hIm to people here??? I already noted, this band might want to be avoided cause ofthat album cover. Still, that song is about a part of Revelations i believe. TheDevils descent into hell. [b]Dream Theater[/b]- horrible horrible horrible live band, but amazingmusicians. i wish more of their material wasn't just a build up toan awesome solo in the middle of the song, though. Awake is a greatalbum, though, as is another one i can't remember at the moment... someanti-religious lyrics, but have/had? Catholic members. Catholic members? First i had heard. They were amazing livewhen i saw them with Opeth. Great playing and a good show. Maybe you arethinking of the song "in the name of God" which deplores violence done underthe banner of righteous gods? [b] Darkest Hour[/b]- VERY fun live band, but extremelyanti-religious. they're too drunk and stupid to be taken seriouslywith that, though. even if their upcoming album is a Nietzschereference (philosophy 101 metal, anyone? lololol).<br style=""><br style=""> Nietzche? Lol, have to check that out. I want to see themlive now... but yeah i left some of the more tongue in cheek , or drunken bandsin, such as municipal waste and arsis. [b]Disturbed[/b]- DEATH TO FALSE METAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hmm, i think for a modern band, if you took away all thesubgenre stuff, added a bit of rock, it might sound like disturbed. And theirnew album is fairly decent, a much better intro to metal than Korn or slipknot,or some other junk. [b]Enslaved[/b] - uhm, they have shirts with a mjolnir cracking a cross inhalf... Whats a mjolnir? Caint say ive listened to much other than "RUUN",after looking up some lyrics, and the band, i didn't see any stanic missionstatements, etc. Still, be wary of the unknown [b]Electric Wizard-[/b] great band, but one of their recent albums (WithcultToday) had a lot of satanic material in it, from what iunderstand. it came across as forced, but whatever. Certainly not as good as Dopethrone. [b] Entombed[/b]- VERY satanic and offensive lyrics... i'm amazed they made yourlist... [img]file:///C:/Users/Nick/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image001.gif[/img]<br style=""><br style=""> Their latest album or two(the death rock stuff) seems prettyclean to me. Obviously not the early stuff, doesn't take much to realize that. [b]Hypocrisy[/b] - pretty anti-Christian from what i know. Ill take your word for it, im not to familiar with them,though i never regret when they come up on shuffle. [b] Immortal[/b] -VERY VERY VERY anti-Christian band, was involved in churchburnings and possibly a murder or two. very blasphemous and usesatanic imagery a lot, but are probably just neo-Odinists, like 98% of"satanic" black metal bands...<br style=""><br style=""> I think you are thinking of a different band. "The band hasalso distanced itself from the criminal activities and controversy that isusually associated with black metal. There have been a few minor controversieswith members of Immortal after they have left the band, such as original rhythmguitarist Jørn's conviction of church burning, as well as Erik "Grim"Brødreskift's suicide in 1999." The mainstay membersof the band avoided that stuff. And im pretty sure the 2 murders were done byVarg from Burzum and Faust from Emperor [b] Judas Priest [/b]are you serious? they're great and all, but HIGHLYanti-Christian and have a lot of cryptic lyrics about homosexualsex. i love them, personally, but doubt people here would becomfortable listening to them.<br style=""><br style=""> I didn't pick up the anti Christian part, but yeah the leadsinger is gay, and that does cast some lyrics in a weird light. Luckily, mostof those particular songs weren't any good anyways. Its been a while since ilistened to JP much though. [b]Megadeth[/b] - Dave Mustaine became an evangelical Christian around97. it helped him kick his heroin addiction, but not long ago, hewas hosting a radio show where he spewed all this evangelical fundie stuff thatwas really incendiary and ridiculous. supposedly he's recentlygotten over his ego, but i'm skeptical. i think he's calmed downwith the religious firebrand stuff, though... but not sure... Dave mustaine, always has and always will be an ass. He doesright agood tune though. [b] Sentenced [/b]super-suicidal lyrics, the singer recently killed himself... youguys can figure it out for yourselves...<br style=""><br style=""> Wow, i hadn't heard about that!! Hmm ill have to go back andlisten to his lyrics, i didn't get that vibe at all. [b] Vader [/b]- i like them, but they have a generic and formulaicsound. lyrics are extremely anti-Christian and there's some satanicstuff there for shock value. they have songs about going to waragainst Christianity, so i'd recommend people here avoid them. i'llgo see them live, but won't listen to their albums. also, theirSlayer covers are TERRIBLE!!!!!!<br style=""><br style=""> Mhm, shock value they got. Like a heavier, but lessoffensive Slayer, imo. Yes their covers are baaad. [quote] btw the guy who said DSBM is good is right, but if you like strongmusicianship, you won't like it. i used to be a junkie with thismusic, but it made me really depressed (LOL!) after a few months, so i don'tlisten to it often. burzum pretty much founded the genre with hisFilosefem album. while he is everything you said he is, his lyricsare almost entirely about Middle-Earth. there are some seriouslyanti-Jesus songs, though, like "Jesus Tod" or whatever. irefuse to support and can't stand him as a person, though. plus hetorched a bunch of churches and made money off of that... stupid stupidstupid... i'm hoping to start a Christian grindcore band at some point, but findingChristians, let alone ANYONE here who plays it and isn't already busy is nextto impossible... [img]file:///C:/Users/Nick/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif[/img] [/quote] Yeah, what ive heardof burzums music is kinda interesting, but he is just sooo messed up i cantbring myself to listen to it. Dude has problems. Yeah id love tostart a Death metal band(maybe thrash, im not sure.) but no one around here toplay with.
eustace scrubb Posted March 8, 2010 Posted March 8, 2010 it's 4:30am here, so i'll respond later. btw i agree with most of what you said.
zunshynn Posted March 8, 2010 Posted March 8, 2010 [quote name='Jesus_lol' date='10 January 2010 - 02:31 AM' timestamp='1263115905' post='2033872'] so i found an awesome new band! Insomnium is a melodic Death metal band, with amazing often beautiful instrumentation, very minor key harmonies, and basically poetry for lyrics, though often sung typical death metal style. these guys are awesome, and of of the few metal bands i actually love their lyrics. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9QCK6l6gKg&feature=PlayList&p=23BA6231BBC480F7&index=0&playnext=1[/media] all their lyrics are terrific, also no sign of religion bashing. [/quote] I liked the instrumental on this, (and I agree the lyrics are pretty good, although I don't like the sound of them...) so I looked up some more of their instrumental music. Pretty good, I have to say.
Jesus_lol Posted March 8, 2010 Author Posted March 8, 2010 [quote name='zunshynn' date='08 March 2010 - 01:42 PM' timestamp='1268084574' post='2069069'] I liked the instrumental on this, (and I agree the lyrics are pretty good, although I don't like the sound of them...) so I looked up some more of their instrumental music. Pretty good, I have to say. [/quote] really? cool, i didnt know they had any instrumentals, but i only have their two latest albums(but not for long ) they are one of my favourites actually, the instrumentation is just beautiful at times, and once i could pick up their lyrics i really started enjoying them. most bands i ignore the lyrics.
zunshynn Posted March 8, 2010 Posted March 8, 2010 [quote name='Jesus_lol' date='08 March 2010 - 03:40 PM' timestamp='1268088057' post='2069104'] really? cool, i didnt know they had any instrumentals, but i only have their two latest albums(but not for long ) they are one of my favourites actually, the instrumentation is just beautiful at times, and once i could pick up their lyrics i really started enjoying them. most bands i ignore the lyrics. [/quote] Yeah, I liked this one in particular: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X_0JdDhRKc[/media]
Jesus_lol Posted March 8, 2010 Author Posted March 8, 2010 (edited) its cool to see you taking an interest later ill try and find a bunch of other cool instrumentals (i lost my awesome instrumetal playlist ) for ya oh and this one [media][url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_XDU23zVyo"]http://www.youtube.c...h?v=U_XDU23zVyo[/url][/media] well, first half is instrumental, heres the lyrics for the rest Foul voices welcome me to loneliness Graceful tunes on her lips have now ceased This winter's here to surpass all the hopes And dreams succumb to nightmares and freezing air Now lonely is my road, path paved with bitter thoughts Conception of beauty excluded from this heart Within closed doors no-one speaks, behind barred windows no soul lives As I walk the soil beneath my feet is crumbling... She was my sun and now the light has faded away Night condensing around me, leading astray Shining image torn down, remembrance of her fades Left but anguish and shame to haunt me in the shades Should I be content with the memory of the life I had? Or is the Hell knowing what we could have beome? - Quite indifferent as the tides of time have now turned And the past is buried in a drift of whirling snow Edited March 8, 2010 by Jesus_lol
eustace scrubb Posted March 9, 2010 Posted March 9, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Jesus_lol' date='08 March 2010 - 01:22 AM' timestamp='1268025769' post='2068627']i received most of these digitally (some downloaded, a huge smack from afriends failed hard drive), so i havent seen all the liner notes, album coversetc.)[/quote] yyyyyyyeah, that'll make a huge difference in your knowledge of the bands... [i] [b]Amon Amarth[/b] fun band, musically good, but they have a song or two aboutraping nuns. wouldn't recommend them to people here. mhm, those songs are easy enough to find and delete, just by song title. thenthat leaves you with a healthy discography of awesome viking metal.[/i] my main point is that the concept of [i]viking[/i] metal itself is going to be pretty offensive to Catholics, given what actual vikings did centuries ago... [i][b]Black Sabbath[/b]- coined the musical terms "metal" and "doommetal." most successful Catholic rock band in history, but oftheir best material, only the first three have lyrics that would be acceptableby people here. Cant say ive listened to much past their first three albums,Master of Reality is my fav by far. Could you go into more detail on whatswrong with their later stuff?[/i] it sounds terrible. hahaha anyhow, on vol. 4, they got into cocaine and sang about it. that, drugs, and some anti-Christian lyrics started to appear. i don't know much about the Dio era (don't like any of it...), but when they had one or two random guys on vocals in the late 70's, there was some actual satanic stuff going on from what i understand... they got back on track in the mid to late 80's, but everything they wrote since then has been awful. i haven't heard the latest one, though... they go under the name "Heaven and Hell" now, because Sharon Osbourne got her lawyer father to buy the rights to the name Black Sabbath. it's ridiculous, since it's always been Iommi's band, but what can you do? at least the new name allows them to start fresh, without the baggage of Ozzy and his stupid TV show. Dio is singing for them now, but what was diagnosed recently with cancer. i saw them live a few years ago and wasn't into it. [i][b]Cannibal Corpse[/b] horrible drumming and the worst lyrics i have ever hadthe displeasure of reading in my entire life. they cross so manylines, it's not even funny. i'm paid to write about metal andhardcore and was given an assignment to write about them. i turnedit down and the editor was understanding. I agree. Their earlystuff is terrible, in every way. Their last two albums(the only ones i like atall) are a lot more normal to death metal, lyrics wise(their newer singer isn'tas screwed up) and the production and playing gets better.[/i] [b] [/b]yeah, george *ahem* "corpsegrinder" fisher isn't nearly as bad as chris barnes... unfortunately, the drumming still smells of elderberries and i haven't heard anything on the same level as their classic song, "hammer smashed face."[b] [i]Carcass[/i][/b][i] -what is junk grindcore??? i know they started goregrind (one ofthe most BORING genres EVER...), but they were a legitimately good band beforeheartwork... Lol, junk as in i didn't like listening to it, not as agenre. Yes they were popular in the metal scene before heartwork, but that bodyof music doesn't really belong in this thread. And im not that familiar with itanyways.[/i] i think it does. grindcore is basically punk death metal. it's just more raw, fast, and extreme. [i][b]Dark Tranquility [/b]AWESOME AWESOME band... saw them live eight years agoor so and they TOTALLY blew me away... Uggg, i had tickets to go see these guys(along with archenemy, firewind) and i missed the chance to go. L[/i] get Damage Done. awesome album. haven't heard anything nearly as good since, sadly, but that may have more to do with my preference of gothenberg melodic death being... melodic... [i][b]Death - [/b]albums like Spiritual Healing were very anti-religious and theyhave an upside-down cross in their logo. however, their singerconverted to Catholicism sometime before his death. Hmm i didn't know he went full catholic, thats interesting. Youare right, his early couple albums do have that symbol there(though i don't thinkit makes them a satanic band), and spiritual healing is like that. Over the course of a few albums, that upside down cross turnsinto a right side up one. (more neutral, but w/e) and their later albums aremore about hypocrisy, politics, etc. Given the band leader stated he hadnothing whatso ever to do with Satanism, thats about as close to the source asit gets.[/i] [b] [/b]i wasn't saying that it made them satanic. that's interesting about the change, though...[b] [i]Dio-[/i][/b][i] the artwork for Holy Diver has a priest in chains, thrown into the seaby a demon... are you seriously recommending hIm to people here??? I already noted, this band might want to be avoided cause ofthat album cover. Still, that song is about a part of Revelations i believe. TheDevils descent into hell. [/i]i missed that. apologies.[i] [/i] [i][b]Dream Theater[/b]- horrible horrible horrible live band, but amazingmusicians. i wish more of their material wasn't just a build up toan awesome solo in the middle of the song, though. Awake is a greatalbum, though, as is another one i can't remember at the moment... someanti-religious lyrics, but have/had? Catholic members. Catholic members? First i had heard. They were amazing livewhen i saw them with Opeth. Great playing and a good show. Maybe you arethinking of the song "in the name of God" which deplores violence done underthe banner of righteous gods?[/i] i saw them on "Gigantour" back in 2005. they were so bad that people actually left (including the braindead person who gave me a ride there...). i'm referring to a song where the singer refers to praying as pointless, because God doesn't exist. read an interview with them, though, where a member talked about his Catholic faith and how one or two other members were, as well, but that it didn't influence the lyrics. [b][i]Darkest Hour[/i][/b][i]- VERY fun live band, but extremelyanti-religious. they're too drunk and stupid to be taken seriouslywith that, though. even if their upcoming album is a Nietzschereference (philosophy 101 metal, anyone? lololol). Nietzche? Lol, have to check that out. I want to see themlive now... but yeah i left some of the more tongue in cheek , or drunken bandsin, such as municipal waste and arsis.[/i] yeah, totally... i wouldn't take them seriously in the slightest... they have to be some of the dumbest, most brain dead people in metal, thanks to their alcoholism... [b]Disturbed[/b]- DEATH TO FALSE METAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [i] Hmm, i think for a modern band, if you took away all thesubgenre stuff, added a bit of rock, it might sound like disturbed. And theirnew album is fairly decent, a much better intro to metal than Korn or slipknot,or some other junk.[/i] i don't think that's an intro to metal at all, but whatever. btw i keep confusing them with drowning pool... which of them did that "down wit tha sickness" song? OOH AH AH AH AH!!!!!!!!! lolololol [i][b]Enslaved[/b] - uhm, they have shirts with a mjolnir cracking a cross inhalf... Whats a mjolnir? Caint say ive listened to much other than "RUUN",after looking up some lyrics, and the band, i didn't see any stanic missionstatements, etc. Still, be wary of the unknown[/i] a hammer of thor. it's the primary religious symbol of Odinism. ask user Varg about it. [i][b]Electric Wizard-[/b] great band, but one of their recent albums (WithcultToday) had a lot of satanic material in it, from what iunderstand. it came across as forced, but whatever. Certainly not as good as Dopethrone.[/i] [b] [/b]oh, for sure... that album is incredible... and i doubt that an album about satanism and weed and how they're somehow connected is gonna be anywhere near as good...[b] [i]Entombed[/i][/b][i]- VERY satanic and offensive lyrics... i'm amazed they made yourlist... Their latest album or two(the death rock stuff) seems prettyclean to me. Obviously not the early stuff, doesn't take much to realize that.[/i] morning star was swedish death metal. wolverine blues was more rock oriented, but i don't know about the latest... anyhow, their only material that i like is the really offensive stuff, but i can't stand them anymore... [i][b]Hypocrisy[/b] - pretty anti-Christian from what i know. Ill take your word for it, im not to familiar with them,though i never regret when they come up on shuffle.[/i] yeah, i may be seeing them live next month, but i think i blew my finances, so that may not happen... [b] [i]Immortal[/i][/b][i] -VERY VERY VERY anti-Christian band, was involved in churchburnings and possibly a murder or two. very blasphemous and usesatanic imagery a lot, but are probably just neo-Odinists, like 98% of"satanic" black metal bands... I think you are thinking of a different band. "The band hasalso distanced itself from the criminal activities and controversy that isusually associated with black metal. There have been a few minor controversieswith members of Immortal after they have left the band, such as original rhythmguitarist Jørn's conviction of church burning, as well as Erik "Grim"Brødreskift's suicide in 1999."[/i] [i] The mainstay membersof the band avoided that stuff. And im pretty surethe 2 murders were done byVarg from Burzum and Faust from Emperor[/i] no, that's who i'm thinking of. they don't interest me, anyhow. their last two albums aren't nearly as good as the old stuff, from what friends who are diehard fans have told me... btw Varg was in Mayhem (only material he contributed as far as i know were basslines on Dom Mysterii Sathanas), Burzum, and contributed lyrics to early Darkthrone (A Blaze in the Northern Sky and Transilvanian Hunger, probably the two best black metal albums in history...). he was somewhat involved with getting a member of Immortal into black metal and/or church burnings, but that was the extent of his interactions with Immortal. [i][b]Judas Priest [/b]are you serious? they're great and all, but HIGHLYanti-Christian and have a lot of cryptic lyrics about homosexualsex. i love them, personally, but doubt people here would becomfortable listening to them. I didn't pick up the anti Christian part, but yeah the leadsinger is gay, and that does cast some lyrics in a weird light. Luckily, mostof those particular songs weren't any good anyways. Its been a while since ilistened to JP much though.[/i] they were one of the bands during the 80's who got the most heat from Tipper Gore for their lyrics. listen to their landmark album Sad Wings of Destiny, a classic example of NWOBHM... [i][b]Megadeth[/b] - Dave Mustaine became an evangelical Christian around97. it helped him kick his heroin addiction, but not long ago, hewas hosting a radio show where he spewed all this evangelical fundie stuff thatwas really incendiary and ridiculous. supposedly he's recentlygotten over his ego, but i'm skeptical. i think he's calmed downwith the religious firebrand stuff, though... but not sure... Dave mustaine, always has and always will be an ass. He doesright agood tune though.[/i] [b] [/b]he is an amazing musician...[b] [i]Sentenced [/i][/b][i]super-suicidal lyrics, the singer recently killed himself... youguys can figure it out for yourselves... Wow, i hadn't heard about that!! Hmm ill have to go back andlisten to his lyrics, i didn't get that vibe at all.[/i] it's not in the vibe so much as it is in their lyrics, which are very melodic. it's such a shame that he wasted his talent on that stuff, but at least it helped him to deal with his suicidal feelings... for a limited time... [b] [i]Vader [/i][/b][i]- i like them, but they have a generic and formulaicsound. lyrics are extremely anti-Christian and there's some satanicstuff there for shock value. they have songs about going to waragainst Christianity, so i'd recommend people here avoid them. i'llgo see them live, but won't listen to their albums. also, theirSlayer covers are TERRIBLE!!!!!! Mhm, shock value they got. Like a heavier, but lessoffensive Slayer, imo. Yes their covers are baaad.[/i] yup. [i]Yeah, what ive heardof burzums music is kinda interesting, but he is just sooo messed up i cantbring myself to listen to it. Dude has problems.[/i] i'm surprised you'd like something with such (intentionally, at that...) bad production... [i]Yeah id love tostart a Death metal band(maybe thrash, im not sure.) but no one around here toplay with.[/i] yeah... right now a friend of mine said he's going to work on some drum tracks with a computer and play bass for an e-grind band with me. the drum tracks will probably be just until we can find a real drummer. he doesn't know how to play grindcore, but he's extremely talented and i think listening to some Godstomper and early Napalm Death should help take care of that. plus he likes Gridlink and Discordance Axis, so i think it could work out. he's a Christian, as well, so our lyrics will obviously be influenced by our faith. if we manage to get a demo recorded, i'll spend the time to come up with a name for it and upload the tracks for anyone who happens to be interested. if Forty Holy Martyrs of Sebaste is still around and our project takes off, i'd really like to do a split with them... Edited March 9, 2010 by eustace scrubb
Jesus_lol Posted March 9, 2010 Author Posted March 9, 2010 (edited) [i] yyyyyyyeah, that'll make a huge difference in your knowledge of the bands... [/i]true, but i try looking a lot of that stuff if i have the time. [i] [b]Amon Amarth[/b] [/i][i]my main point[i] [/i]is that the concept of [i]viking[/i] metal itself is going to be pretty offensive to Catholics, given what actual vikings did centuries ago...[/i] hmm, possibly, though most people here think vikings are cool. lots of people were jerks centuries ago [i][b]Black Sabbath[/b]- [/i][i]it sounds terrible. hahaha anyhow, on vol. 4, they got into cocaine and sang about it. that, drugs, and some anti-Christian lyrics started to appear. i don't know much about the Dio era (don't like any of it...), but when they had one or two random guys on vocals in the late 70's, there was some actual satanic stuff going on from what i understand... they got back on track in the mid to late 80's, but everything they wrote since then has been awful. i haven't heard the latest one, though... they go under the name "Heaven and Hell" now, because Sharon Osbourne got her lawyer father to buy the rights to the name Black Sabbath. it's ridiculous, since it's always been Iommi's band, but what can you do? at least the new name allows them to start fresh, without the baggage of Ozzy and his stupid TV show. Dio is singing for them now, but what was diagnosed recently with cancer. i saw them live a few years ago and wasn't into it.[/i] hmm thats too bad. oh well, all weird stuff aside Dio and Ozzy are like the two best vocalists in metal. [i][b]Cannibal Corpse[/b] [/i] [i]yeah, george *ahem* "corpsegrinder" fisher isn't nearly as bad as chris barnes... unfortunately, the drumming still smells of elderberries and i haven't heard anything on the same level as their classic song, "hammer smashed face."[/i][b] [/b]lol, that is an awesome song. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX88zALlqUA"]This Unassuming guy[/url] did an awesome guitar cover of that song, and actually way improved the heavy riff in it, with the trills. [b] [i]Carcass[/i][/b][i] - i think it does. grindcore is basically punk death metal. it's just more raw, fast, and extreme.[/i] i was thinking the extreme gore lyrics probably wouldnt be well received. still, ill check them out again later. have you heard Pig Destroyer or Exhumed?? only other two in my library id call Grind. [i][b]Dark Tranquility [/b][/i][i]get Damage Done. awesome album. haven't heard anything nearly as good since, sadly, but that may have more to do with my preference of gothenberg melodic death being... melodic...[/i] lol, me too. hence Insomnium being my all time favourite melodeth band. such awesome melodies and lyrics. and i already have Damage Done, its great. [b] [/b][i][b]Dream Theater[/b]- [/i][i] i saw them on "Gigantour" back in 2005. they were so bad that people actually left (including the braindead person who gave me a ride there...). i'm referring to a song where the singer refers to praying as pointless, because God doesn't exist. read an interview with them, though, where a member talked about his Catholic faith and how one or two other members were, as well, but that it didn't influence the lyrics.[/i] that seems like apretty common thing for religious people to have deep issues with. too bad about gigantour. they must have been off their game. [b][i]Darkest Hour[/i][/b][i]- yeah, totally... i wouldn't take them seriously in the slightest... they have to be some of the dumbest, most brain dead people in metal, thanks to their alcoholism...[/i] speaking of which, you should check out Municipal Waste. its my go to band for converting punks into metalheads. [b]Disturbed[/b]-[i] i don't think that's an intro to metal at all, but whatever. btw i keep confusing them with drowning pool... which of them did that "down wit tha sickness" song? OOH AH AH AH AH!!!!!!!!! lolololol[/i] lol, im not sure. [i][b]Enslaved[/b] - [/i]a hammer of thor. it's the primary religious symbol of Odinism. ask user Varg about it. gotcha, didnt recognize the name. [i][b]Electric Wizard-[/b] oh, for sure... that album is incredible... and i doubt that an album about satanism and weed and how they're somehow connected is gonna be anywhere near as good...[/i][b] [/b]oh i once won a MS paint contest on another forum(mspaint album covers) with this album [img]http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r267/diablo_man/_c197667_image_0.jpg[/img] took me some time. [b] [i]Entombed[/i][/b][i]- morning star was swedish death metal. wolverine blues was more rock oriented, but i don't know about the latest... anyhow, their only material that i like is the really offensive stuff, but i can't stand them anymore...[/i] yeah i liked morningstar. [i][b]Hypocrisy[/b] yeah, i may be seeing them live next month, but i think i blew my finances, so that may not happen... [/i] [b] [/b]aww that smells of elderberries, ive nmissed out on a few good ones recently. althogh i am really glad i made it to see dethklok, mastadon and high on fire. [b][i]Immortal[/i][/b][i] -no, that's who i'm thinking of. they don't interest me, anyhow. their last two albums aren't nearly as good as the old stuff, from what friends who are diehard fans have told me... btw Varg was in Mayhem (only material he contributed as far as i know were basslines on Dom Mysterii Sathanas), Burzum, and contributed lyrics to early Darkthrone (A Blaze in the Northern Sky and Transilvanian Hunger, probably the two best black metal albums in history...). he was somewhat involved with getting a member of Immortal into black metal and/or church burnings, but that was the extent of his interactions with Immortal.[/i] yeah their last two albums actually have some decent production which might have scared off the "trv kvlt" fans. nothing like people who prefer the recorded in a soup can sound. [i][b]Judas Priest [/b][/i]t[i]hey were one of the bands during the 80's who got the most heat from Tipper Gore for their lyrics. listen to their landmark album Sad Wings of Destiny, a classic example of NWOBHM...[/i] eh, most of that satanism=metal stuff back then is totally unfounded. [i]Yeah, what ive heardof burzums music is kinda interesting, but he is just sooo messed up i cantbring myself to listen to it. Dude has problems. i'm surprised you'd like something with such (intentionally, at that...) bad production...[/i] well, i listened to a bit a while ago, and i didnt like the production, but the musician ship was impressive. i havent heard more than a few songs though. his darkwave stuff is pretty neat though [i]Yeah id love tostart a Death metal band(maybe thrash, im not sure.) but no one around here toplay with.[/i] [i] yeah... right now a friend of mine said he's going to work on some drum tracks with a computer and play bass for an e-grind band with me. the drum tracks will probably be just until we can find a real drummer. he doesn't know how to play grindcore, but he's extremely talented and i think listening to some Godstomper and early Napalm Death should help take care of that. plus he likes Gridlink and Discordance Axis, so i think it could work out. he's a Christian, as well, so our lyrics will obviously be influenced by our faith. if we manage to get a demo recorded, i'll spend the time to come up with a name for it and upload the tracks for anyone who happens to be interested. if Forty Holy Martyrs of Sebaste is still around and our project takes off, i'd really like to do a split with them... [/i]you play guitar then? so do i, what do you think? [url="http://www.youtube.com/user/diabloman?feature=mhw4#p/u"]http://www.youtube.c...eature=mhw4#p/u[/url] Edited March 9, 2010 by Jesus_lol
ardillacid Posted March 9, 2010 Posted March 9, 2010 [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMUuLuwmmBg[/media]
DemonSlayer Posted March 11, 2010 Posted March 11, 2010 [quote name='eustace scrubb' date='09 March 2010 - 02:35 PM' timestamp='1268112914' post='2069421'] [i][b]Dream Theater[/b]- horrible horrible horrible live band, but amazingmusicians. i wish more of their material wasn't just a build up toan awesome solo in the middle of the song, though. Awake is a greatalbum, though, as is another one i can't remember at the moment... someanti-religious lyrics, but have/had? Catholic members. Catholic members? First i had heard. They were amazing livewhen i saw them with Opeth. Great playing and a good show. Maybe you arethinking of the song "in the name of God" which deplores violence done underthe banner of righteous gods?[/i] i saw them on "Gigantour" back in 2005. they were so bad that people actually left (including the braindead person who gave me a ride there...). i'm referring to a song where the singer refers to praying as pointless, because God doesn't exist. read an interview with them, though, where a member talked about his Catholic faith and how one or two other members were, as well, but that it didn't influence the lyrics. [/quote] [quote]James LaBrie - Christian James has said in many interviews that he is Christian, and actively practices the religion. There is a (no longer available) interview from HM Magazine that had him talk in-depth about his beliefs, and the lyrical meaning of the song Blind Faith, with the interviewer and John Petrucci. John Myung - Christian This is as much confirmation as we can get: he said in an interview once that Jesus is his biggest influence in life. Anyone with more information please contact us. John Petrucci - Catholic In the above-mentioned interview with James, he stated that he is a catholic and actively practices the religion. This is also evident in some of his songs, particularly Scarred and Voices. [/quote] [url="http://faq.dtnorway.com/question/114"]http://faq.dtnorway.com/question/114[/url]
Fixxxer Posted March 24, 2010 Posted March 24, 2010 [quote name='desertwoman' date='18 December 2009 - 08:06 PM' timestamp='1261181202' post='2022858'] How about The Sword? [/quote] the sword is very awesome. i saw them in january, played a small club show. lots of new songs!
Fixxxer Posted March 24, 2010 Posted March 24, 2010 since when is black sabbath a catholic band lol, i must have been missing something!
Jesus_lol Posted June 6, 2010 Author Posted June 6, 2010 New video here from a Christian metal band Malevolence (metalcore technically) with the best music video ever!! [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6u4y-z2DMGQ[/media] and another Christian Band [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4XjXreON3Y[/media] "Lyrics: Let the trumpet sound for the coming King. The almighty approaches! Let the whole world see. Wake up! This is really happening--the locusts devouring everything. The great and dreadful day of the Lord has fallen on the land. May you bear the mark of righteousness. We will not be forsaken. May your conviction stand to profess: we will not be forgotten. America, you will be judged, but His people will be restored. fall to your knees, for there is life at the throne of god. You will be judged. Seek your mercy now, while it may still be found. Arise, take up your sword and choose your side. Tonight, prepare for battle. For the dream of God will come from the lips of children, and His Spirit will pour out onto all flesh. You will see the sun black out, and the moon turned to blood. Then you will know there is one God and the LORD is His name. You will be judged, but His people will be restored. Fall to your knees, for there is life at the throne of God."
Guest CaraKnox Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 I am a true christian girl and lets say this list is very VERY VERY hypocritical! First of SLAYER is SATANIC! Their songs focus on horrible hatred for christian anything. Saying how religion is a whore, how jesus didn't die on the cross, it was a lie and if he did, they would be the one to nail him up. Cause he deserves it. YEAH NOT CHRISTIAN! DON'T list bands that are satanic and act like are not. VADER and Dark tranquility are totally Satanic as well. Vader's song "god is dead" Is a prime example. Children of bodom have very suggestive demonic lyrics "banned from heaven" etc. Listening to these bands makes you a sinner. You mine as well stab a kinfe in Jesus' heart and tell him to go [mod]MIKolbe- language[/mod]. Because you are breaking his heart when you subject yourself to that utter filth. You should seriously Revise this and think about what you listen to and how it effects our Savior Jesus Christ.
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