Dropping Like Flies

[ThePenciledOne]

[quote name='Amppax' timestamp='1306363405' post='2245969']
democrats republicans i just can't win here.
[/quote]

Welcome to my life.



And side note, I'm so glad American Politics yet again prove that they are still worth being perpetuated, despite it's utter failure to produce competent individuals that put forth policies that govern our lives.

Election season always makes me laugh hysterically now and then...

[dUSt]

[quote name='Lil Red' timestamp='1307381034' post='2250456']
he's pro-torture.
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I think "pro-option" is a better term.

[Lil Red]

[quote name='dUSt' timestamp='1307389608' post='2250524']
I think "pro-option" is a better term.
[/quote]
what do you mean? that's he's for the option of using torture?

[Lil Red]

[quote name='dUSt' timestamp='1307389608' post='2250524']
I think "pro-option" is a better term.
[/quote]
From the [url="http://www.coalitionforclarity.blogspot.com/"]Coalition for Clarity[/url]:

THE CATECHISM ON TORTURE

"2297 Kidnapping and hostage taking bring on a reign of terror; by means of threats they subject their victims to intolerable pressures. They are morally wrong. Terrorism threatens, wounds, and kills indiscriminately; it is gravely against justice and charity. Torture which uses physical or moral violence to extract confessions, punish the guilty, frighten opponents, or satisfy hatred is contrary to respect for the person and for human dignity. Except when performed for strictly therapeutic medical reasons, directly intended amputations, mutilations, and sterilizations performed on innocent persons are against the moral law."

CCC 2297

"...I reiterate that the prohibition against torture “cannot be contravened under any circumstances...”" [url="http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/speeches/2007/september/documents/hf_ben-xvi_spe_20070906_pastorale-carceraria_en.html"]Pope Benedict XVI[/url]

[dUSt]

[quote name='Lil Red' timestamp='1307389920' post='2250525']
what do you mean? that's he's for the option of using torture?
[/quote]
Yes.

Saying he's pro-torture is like saying pro-choice people are pro-abortion. THE NERVE!!!

[Lil Red]

[quote name='dUSt' timestamp='1307395585' post='2250564']
Yes.

Saying he's pro-torture is like saying pro-choice people are pro-abortion. THE NERVE!!!
[/quote]
well, whether they like it or not, if you say you are pro-choice, you are pro-abortion - just usually for someone else, never for yourself, of course.

[kujo]

Disclosure: Big fan of Romney.

[quote name='PennyLane' timestamp='1306582972' post='2247042']
I understand what you are saying.

Paul is extremely pro-life though, and is even a pro-life doctor. He thinks that it should be up to the States and more localized power to make the laws. He believes the federal government is too big...
[/quote]

You mean, the states ought to be deciding things for themselves? Does that argument extend to creating, administering and paying for a universal healthcare plan, too?!

[quote name='dUSt' timestamp='1307379293' post='2250448']
What's everyone got against Rick Santorum?

[/quote]

Google his name.

[Skinzo]

It's way too early to say. Some posting here seem to think Obama has a good chance of winning but the economy is still sputtering and his approval rating on that has dropped into the 40's. We have high gas prices, high unemployment, and falling house prices. Not a good formula for an Obama victory.
This news article of today is quite relevant. Polls show voter confidence in congressional Republicans ability to handle the economy is up 11 points since March.
"Among all Americans, Obama and Romney are tied at 47 percent each. Among registered voters, Romney is ahead 49 percent to 46 percent."
No president ever wants to enter a re-election race with numbers below 50%. If the economy does not improve, Obama is very vulnerable.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/pl_nm/us_poll_obama

S.

[Papist]

The biggest problem the GOP is making is they are trying to find someone the media will like. AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN!!!!! Just find a true conservative with no skeletons in his closet and won't be a candy-wuss when debating Obama.

[Lil Red]

[quote name='Papist' timestamp='1307456164' post='2250786']
The biggest problem the GOP is making is they are trying to find someone the media will like. AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN!!!!! Just find a true conservative with no skeletons in his closet and won't be a candy-wuss when debating Obama.
[/quote]

[MagiDragon]

[quote name='ParadiseFound' timestamp='1307379972' post='2250452']
On a similar note, apparently she's coming to Europe soon. I don't even want to be on the same continent as her (or 'country', as she probably thinks Europe is).
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Do you actually object to any of her positions? Life issues, taxes, environment . . . she's pretty much dead on with all of those. You *do* realize that the vast majority of what she has been bashed with was just made up by the media, don't you? For instance she didn't know "the Bush Doctrine" . . . well, there were at least 3 different 'Bush Doctrines' at the time . . . "I can see Russia from my house." Actually, Tina Fey said that while doing one of her hit jobs as a Palin impersonator. The real quote was "You can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska."

I don't think Sarah would be the best president, and I wish she wouldn't run because she'll be unfairly treated, but she's easily in the top 20% of recent politicians. (Note: 'recent politicians' not the best group to be running a country in the first place.)

So in summary, you should feel honored that she's condescending to spend some time in the quaint old country of Europe.

[Amppax]

[quote name='ThePenciledOne' timestamp='1307389375' post='2250519']
Welcome to my life.



And side note, I'm so glad American Politics yet again prove that they are still worth being perpetuated, despite it's utter failure to produce competent individuals that put forth policies that govern our lives.

Election season always makes me laugh hysterically now and then...
[/quote]

... or cry uncontrollably, i'm not sure which

[kujo]

[quote name='MagiDragon' timestamp='1307462843' post='2250814']
Do you actually object to any of her positions? Life issues, taxes, environment . . . she's pretty much dead on with all of those. You *do* realize that the vast majority of what she has been bashed with was just made up by the media, don't you? For instance she didn't know "the Bush Doctrine" . . . well, there were at least 3 different 'Bush Doctrines' at the time . . . "I can see Russia from my house." Actually, Tina Fey said that while doing one of her hit jobs as a Palin impersonator. The real quote was "You can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska."

I don't think Sarah would be the best president, and I wish she wouldn't run because she'll be unfairly treated, but she's easily in the top 20% of recent politicians. (Note: 'recent politicians' not the best group to be running a country in the first place.)

So in summary, you should feel honored that she's condescending to spend some time in the quaint old country of Europe.

[/quote]

She's annoying, and she's a dummy. Plain and simple.

[MagiDragon]

[quote name='kujo' timestamp='1307465727' post='2250830']
She's annoying, and she's a dummy. Plain and simple.
[/quote]

Well congratulations, then, you've just ruled out us electing anyone president! (Actually, I'd be in favor of this . . . few laws would get passed, which would mean relative freedom . . . which would be a great thing!)

[kujo]

[quote name='MagiDragon' timestamp='1307466763' post='2250840']
Well congratulations, then, you've just ruled out us electing anyone president! (Actually, I'd be in favor of this . . . few laws would get passed, which would mean relative freedom . . . which would be a great thing!)
[/quote]

Not everyone is as ignorant and obnoxious as Sarah Palin.

And your understanding of "freedom" leaves something to be desired #justsayin

[kujo]

The most recent example of how much of an ignoramus she is:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-june-6-2011/sarah-palin-s-folksy-word-salad?xrs=share_copy

Slightly NSFW...not really though...

Edited June 7, 2011 by kujo

[Lil Red]

and your answer is Mittens Romney? lulz.

[kujo]

[quote name='Lil Red' timestamp='1307477658' post='2250930']
and your answer is Mittens Romney? lulz.
[/quote]

I'll take the Great White Wasp over that nitwit 10 times out of 10.

[Lil Red]

[quote name='kujo' timestamp='1307477696' post='2250931']
I'll take the Great White Wasp over that nitwit 10 times out of 10.
[/quote]
i'd rather not take him anywhere.

http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2011/06/ann-barnhardt-l-1.html

i don't really know if i agree with a lot of what Ann Barnhardt says, but she makes some interesting points. plus, i like the author of that blog says: You don't get to be Governor of Taxachusetts by promoting conservative principles.

to be clear, i'm not really a palin fan, i just think she gets a lot of croutons unjustly, kinda like Bush the 2nd did.

[kujo]

[quote name='Lil Red' timestamp='1307478030' post='2250936']
i'd rather not take him anywhere.

http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2011/06/ann-barnhardt-l-1.html

i don't really know if i agree with a lot of what Ann Barnhardt says, but she makes some interesting points. plus, i like the author of that blog says: You don't get to be Governor of Taxachusetts by promoting conservative principles.

to be clear, i'm not really a palin fan, i just think she gets a lot of croutons unjustly, kinda like Bush the 2nd did.
[/quote]

I think she is actually dumber than Dubya.

Did you SEE and HEAR her Paul Revere stuff? I mean, how unintelligent does she sound? Beyond the fact that she is clearly ignorant of basic historical facts, she just SOUNDS dumb. I don't care about her pro-life principles--that's great and all, but you're a dumbie.