Protestant Pedophiles

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='xSilverPhinx' timestamp='1310148972' post='2264543']
I think the real problem here is the cover-up and the refusal of the Vatican to hand them over to secular authorities. They should be treated and judged just as any other peadophile would, with no distinction between teachers, Catholics or Protestants. if the Vatican knew about what was going on (and they did) and and didn't take the appropriate measures, they are complicit and so share responsibility.The same for any Protestant denomination or any other group or institution.

Why protect any of them?
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I think the problem is the general public's complete misunderstanding of the topic and the Church as evidenced by your post. This is not an attack, just a comment on how society operates these days. If it can't fit into a 2 minute sound bite or fit our preconceived notions we just don't take the time to discuss it.

[infinitelord1]

[quote name='xSilverPhinx' timestamp='1310148972' post='2264543']
I think the real problem here is the cover-up and the refusal of the Vatican to hand them over to secular authorities. They should be treated and judged just as any other peadophile would, with no distinction between teachers, Catholics or Protestants. if the Vatican knew about what was going on (and they did) and and didn't take the appropriate measures, they are complicit and so share responsibility.The same for any Protestant denomination or any other group or institution.

Why protect any of them?
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You think any atheists have ever committed pedophilia? Maybe the news should start talking about it for months on end.....as if it is a problem only within Atheism.

[ThePenciledOne]

This thread just makes me sad.

[revelations]

I wonder if one should contribute the statistics on african ameicans crime rates compared to that of caucasions. even for the purpose of statistics i believe such information is merely pointless when we are all reminded that God loves us. what is more important?

[Groo the Wanderer]

i think the title of this thread is just seriously whacked...




and by the way, for our non-Catholic pham...please be advised that the Church is not a corporation. The Pope has supreme authority in spiritual matters, but he aint a CEO. He is not personally responsible for every thing every member of the Body of Christ does. He does not hire or fire the people working in the office in my local parish.

The media continues to show its bias and ignorance by continuing to report the issue as if the Church were a business with a Gantt org chart. Don't be duped - yer smarter than that. Take time to find out the truth for yerself.

Edited July 12, 2011 by Groo the Wanderer

[infinitelord1]

[quote name='Groo the Wanderer' timestamp='1310491509' post='2266382']
i think the title of this thread is just seriously whacked...




and by the way, for our non-Catholic pham...please be advised that the Church is not a corporation. The Pope has supreme authority in spiritual matters, but he aint a CEO. He is not personally responsible for every thing every member of the Body of Christ does. He does not hire or fire the people working in the office in my local parish.

The media continues to show its bias and ignorance by continuing to report the issue as if the Church were a business with a Gantt org chart. Don't be duped - yer smarter than that. Take time to find out the truth for yerself.
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Why do you think the title of this thread is "whacked"?

[Groo the Wanderer]

[quote name='infinitelord1' timestamp='1310537792' post='2266778']
Why do you think the title of this thread is "whacked"?
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"Protestant Pedophiles Got any good sources?"



Sounds like someone searching for these folks for recruitment or sumthin....

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='Groo the Wanderer' timestamp='1310557479' post='2266844']
"Protestant Pedophiles Got any good sources?"



Sounds like someone searching for these folks for recruitment or sumthin....
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It could be phrased a tad bit better, but I understand the question. There are no statistics on any group outside the Catholic Church other than school teachers, since no one is required to report them to any specific agency.

The rate in the catholic Church for accusations is 2 %.

[thessalonian]

This thread has a purpose. Apologetically one should never go on the offensive with information regarding the sins of protestant pastors. However at times when a protestant has been gloaty about the sins of our priests I have presented them with information regarding sins of their clergy. The following information is useful.

1) Www.reformation.com contains articles concerning protestant child abuse. A similar list or articles can be obtained at:
http://stopbaptistpredators.org/news.html

2) Phil Jenkins, a protestant scholar has studied the matter and I believe has a book out on it.

http://www.jknirp.com/jenkins3.htm

3) An article that sheds some light claiming there are 70 incidents per week (3500 per year based on insurance claims by all denominations) of child abuse in religious institutions (mainly protestant) in the united states.

http://www.bcelibate.com/lovestickers_article.php?art=1&top=3

4) An interesting article by the Catholic league.

http://www.bishop-accountability.org/reports/2004_02_CatholicLeague_SexualAbuse.htm

The southern baptists did a study in the mid 90s and found that 11-13% of their pastors had engaged in sexual activity with women other than their wife. I have seen similar numbers for other denominations.

Again this information should be used carefully as we don't want to point fingers, nor do we want to imply that 2 wrongs make a right or give the impression that is what we are saying when we present such information.

The primary reason that the Catholic Church gets so much attention in this matter is the hierarchical structure which allows for suing of a diocese rather than just a parish. Follow the money. Baptist Churches for example are autonomous, even though they may be "southern baptists" for instance. Therefore one cannot sue the southern baptists per se.

Edited July 13, 2011 by thessalonian

[Lil Red]

[quote name='thessalonian' timestamp='1310596206' post='2267127']
Again this information should be used carefully as we don't want to point fingers, nor do we want to imply that 2 wrongs make a right or give the impression that is what we are saying when we present such information.
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well said.

[infinitelord1]

[quote name='thessalonian' timestamp='1310596206' post='2267127']
This thread has a purpose. Apologetically one should never go on the offensive with information regarding the sins of protestant pastors. However at times when a protestant has been gloaty about the sins of our priests I have presented them with information regarding sins of their clergy. The following information is useful.

1) Www.reformation.com contains articles concerning protestant child abuse. A similar list or articles can be obtained at:
http://stopbaptistpredators.org/news.html

2) Phil Jenkins, a protestant scholar has studied the matter and I believe has a book out on it.

http://www.jknirp.com/jenkins3.htm

3) An article that sheds some light claiming there are 70 incidents per week (3500 per year based on insurance claims by all denominations) of child abuse in religious institutions (mainly protestant) in the united states.

http://www.bcelibate.com/lovestickers_article.php?art=1&top=3

4) An interesting article by the Catholic league.

http://www.bishop-accountability.org/reports/2004_02_CatholicLeague_SexualAbuse.htm

The southern baptists did a study in the mid 90s and found that 11-13% of their pastors had engaged in sexual activity with women other than their wife. I have seen similar numbers for other denominations.

Again this information should be used carefully as we don't want to point fingers, nor do we want to imply that 2 wrongs make a right or give the impression that is what we are saying when we present such information.

The primary reason that the Catholic Church gets so much attention in this matter is the hierarchical structure which allows for suing of a diocese rather than just a parish. Follow the money. Baptist Churches for example are autonomous, even though they may be "southern baptists" for instance. Therefore one cannot sue the southern baptists per se.
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Thanks. Yeah my goal is not to point fingers. Its to show that this is a problem everywhere.

[revelations]

[quote name='infinitelord1' timestamp='1310669959' post='2267440']
Thanks. Yeah my goal is not to point fingers. Its to show that this is a problem everywhere.
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Good point.

[thessalonian]

http://poetrypal.tripod.com/sexual-abuse.html

"Statistics show 38 million adults have been sexually abuse in which 27% are women and 16% men. That indicates one in every three women and one in every seven men were sexually abused as children."

Ya, it's everywhere.

[cmotherofpirl]

Gov study points out the 4.5 MILLION US children have been subject to sexual misconduct in a[b] PUBLIC [/b]school by an employee in their k-12 years.
http://www2.ed.gov/rschstat/research/pubs/misconductreview/report.pdf page 26

This too is an interesting article from when the report was released: http://www.academia.org/public-school-predators/

this was written last week: http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/01/a_priest_and_an_altar_boy_hah.html

[cmotherofpirl]

Gov study points out the 4.5 MILLION US children have been subject to sexual misconduct in school by an employee in their k-12 years.
http://www2.ed.gov/rschstat/research/pubs/misconductreview/report.pdf page 26

This too is an interesting article from when the report was released:http://www.academia.org/public-school-predators/

this was written last week: http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/01/a_priest_and_an_altar_boy_hah.html

and this is an oldie but goodie: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/dave-pierre/2011/01/02/wheres-media-la-atty-declares-many-abuse-accusations-against-catholic-p#ixzz1A0lHliQq

[infinitelord1]

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' timestamp='1310851308' post='2268323']
Gov study points out the 4.5 MILLION US children have been subject to sexual misconduct in school by an employee in their k-12 years.
http://www2.ed.gov/rschstat/research/pubs/misconductreview/report.pdf page 26

This too is an interesting article from when the report was released:http://www.academia.org/public-school-predators/

this was written last week: http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/01/a_priest_and_an_altar_boy_hah.html

and this is an oldie but goodie: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/dave-pierre/2011/01/02/wheres-media-la-atty-declares-many-abuse-accusations-against-catholic-p#ixzz1A0lHliQq
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Second source had some interesting things in it.